Chernobyl accident 24 years after

[billi]

strange coincidence with the latest debates  , but nearly forgot,  it was today 24 years ago , and i was closer  these days ,than now

Neutral  information here

http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/17002.html


http://www.newsrunner.com/display-article/?eUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.suntimes.com%2Fnews%2Fworld%2F2201870%2Cchernobyle-reactor-threat-ukraine-042610.article&eSrc=Estonia+Times&eTitle=Chernobyl+reactor+a+serious+threat%3A+Ukraine+leader

KIEV, Ukraine -- Ukraine's president warned Monday on the 24th anniversary of the world's worst atomic accident that the Chernobyl nuclear reactor remains a serious threat to Europe.

[dhaslam]

On the radio today here  there was a reference to a heart condition  in children caused by their parents exposure to radiation.  It costs €1,000 for an operation to cure it but it isn't available to all who need it. 


http://www.world-heart.org/doc/9078

[Amy]

So that reminds me where I was 24 years ago.

With only 3 weeks to silage first cut, we were repairing the clamp walls and servicing mowers and forager.

I had a Nat Geo magazine a few months after with pictures of the site and showing men dressed in leather aprons walking above the reactor pouring sand by hand into the building. The film in the camera was partly exposed even before the shutter snapped due to the radiation passing through the camera so what chance did those guys on a suicide mission stand when only wearing leather aprons for protection?

Third world countries shouldnt have nuke capability when they cant look after it properly.

[KenB]

Amy,

I was spending my easter vacation - holed up at college - swatting for my finals.

1986 was a busy year for things blowing up.

Challenger blew up on take off on January 28th.

Berlin Disco bombing on April 5th

resulting in Reagan (aided by Thatcher) ordering the bombing of Tripoli on April 15th.

Finally the two explosions at Chernobyl on 26th April - firstly the graphite and steam explosion which took the lid off the Chernobyl reactor followed shortly by the second explosion which most consider to be a nuclear excursion.



Ken

[martin]

http://citizenzoo.wordpress.com/2009/03/05/les-lendemains-de-tchernobyl/
http://todayspictures.slate.com/inmotion/essay_chernobyl/

-and lightning never strikes twice!

[Ancient Brewer]

strange coincidence with the latest debates  , but nearly forgot,  it was today 24 years ago , and i was closer  these days ,than now

Neutral  information here

http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/17002.html


http://www.newsrunner.com/display-article/?eUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.suntimes.com%2Fnews%2Fworld%2F2201870%2Cchernobyle-reactor-threat-ukraine-042610.article&eSrc=Estonia+Times&eTitle=Chernobyl+reactor+a+serious+threat%3A+Ukraine+leader

KIEV, Ukraine -- Ukraine's president warned Monday on the 24th anniversary of the world's worst atomic accident that the Chernobyl nuclear reactor remains a serious threat to Europe.

Hasn't stopped either Ukraine or Belarus planning new builds. Of course this time they will be neutral /negative void coefficient with containment structures.

[billi]

sad is`nt it !  in my opinion

[Ancient Brewer]

sad is`nt it !  in my opinion

Look on the bright side. They will be about 1 trillion times safer than what went before.

[camillitech]

sad is`nt it !  in my opinion

Look on the bright side. They will be about 1 trillion times safer than what went before.

Trillion is a number more suited to national debt and astronomy than the safety of nuclear power stations 

Cheers, Paul

[Outtasight]

Third world countries shouldnt have nuke capability when they cant look after it properly.

Damn... that rules us out.

We can't even repair the holes in our roads properly and BP can't even drill a hole in the sea bed in the Gulf of Mexico without f&#king it up...

[KenB]

Outtasight,

I think the "leaky hole in the sea", has a lot to do with the 2 subcontractors working for BP.  Who has the ultimate responsibility for this disaster is one for the lawyers to argue over for years. 

Subject: Oil Spill


The rats are starting to surface. The well blew while Halliburton was in the middle of re-cementing the well and casing prior to installing the cement plug required to cap the well if operations ceased and the well was abandoned. During this process Halliburton was reporting excess gas escaping through the grout and cement injection system. At the time of the explosion there were 4 Halliburton employees on the rig monitoring the cementing operation, the 4 escaped and are awaiting questioning. Halliburton's cementing process has resulted in blowouts due to cracks in the cement in 18 of 39 blowouts over 14 years. Last year a similar but smaller blowout occurred off Australia again due to cracks in Halliburton's cement process.

BP did not install nor was it required by the the DOI Mineral Management Service a $500,000.00 emergency sonic triggered shutdown valve. This valve is now used off the coasts of Norway, Brazil, SE Asia, Africa. The valve is only activated in a worst case blow out scenario.

[Outtasight]

True enough and I bet the new generation of nuclear power stations will also be built by the parent company that bids the lowest unrealistic price to win the deal and then immediately sub-contracts it out to a plethora of others who bid them the lowest price to do a bunch of different things...

Multi-sourcing is supposedly a good way to control costs but more usually a sure way to mess up a project and have nobody hold their hands up as responsible as it was "the other guys fault".  It's ok in my field as nobody glows in the dark if an office IT outsourcing goes wrong but I wouldn't want such market forces to drive a safety critical project.  Look what happened with the outsourced rail maintenance in the UK by Network Rail to Balfour Beatty... Hatfield rail disaster followed by 5 years of courtroom finger-pointing.