Lest we forget.........

[martin]

Today is the 65th anniversary of the end of combat in Europe during World War II. Sadly, memories are short and the reasons we went to war get forgotten, and the evils of racism and fascism are abroad again..........

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/fgWFxFg7-GU&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1&amp;" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/fgWFxFg7-GU&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1&amp;</a>

[rt29781]

Today in our little French village there is a march to remember the end of the war, so it's not forgotten by the French.

[martin]

Excellent! - here's something else from the same stable as the above clip........

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/4xjPODksI08&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1&amp;&quot;" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/4xjPODksI08&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1&amp;&quot;</a>

[Amy]

Today in our little French village there is a march to remember the end of the war, so it's not forgotten by the French.

Dad always used to tell me how greatful the French are to us for being the only country to initially stick up for them, yet im confused by the French national attitude toward us since. They supported the argies during the falkland campaign and showed no solidarity in Iraq, even though it turned out to be a bloody mess.

[billi]

all is still in my bones and brains , even i was not Part of the Nazi Deutschland

I was around 10 and 14 teen when my Grandfathers died: i guessed / know they were involved in the Nazi Regime ,one in smaller scale the other higher up  , nevertheless i liked them

I would like to thank my parents and all other German parents to start new and against their fathers crimes/ideologies to raise society /kids with the believe in democracy  

Crime can have a long tail and can destroy more ...., extending  the actual act

Billi

[Amy]

When I was in my teens, my step dad had a close friend who I guess was a father figure to him. They both shared the love of flying because Peter (hans) had been a Luftwaffe pilot during the war, taken prisoner and after the war married a farmers daughter in wales and stayed there.

To me he was Uncle Peter, an enigma, and when I had a nasty accident once when my partents were away, I convelesced with Peter and his wife Phoebe.  They had no kids and spoiled me. Peter had a study full of his books, and photos in frames taken of aircraft, Messerchmits, Heinkles, Fokke wolf etc, also a patch of leather from his flying jacket, his officers sword and his Hitler youth dagger and Iron Cross.

He was always teaching and questioning, things like, how many spark plugs does the Diesel engine have.
None Uncle Peter, its compression ignition, ......Vell done my girl, Phoebe, give zis girl some more strudel, shes a credit to her parents.

My parents were cruel and hated me, so Peter and Phoebe were nice people in my opinion. At that time, I didnt understand any more than the Brits and the Germans had been at war.
As I grew older, I glided and flew with Peter and believed him when he said he only flew over the russian front.

Maybe he didnt, otherwise why was he a POW in wales?

Anyway, I didnt judge him, I just came to realise I liked his style, very officer corps, very punctual, well mannered, clear thinking, lots to say, yes right wing and arrogant, but I knew where i stood with him and I liked and understood that in preference to the cr4p i got off my parants.

Peter died of a heart attack 16 years ago, ironically while on holiday in St Petersburg.

[noelsquibb]

This was sent to me about a year ago.
It is important that we learn the lessons of history.   -  noel

By: Kitty Werthmann

What I am about to tell you is something you've probably never heard or will ever read in history books.
  
I believe that I am an eyewitness to history.  I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history.  We elected him by a landslide - 98% of the vote.  I've never read that in any American publications.  Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.
 
In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression.  Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed.  We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan interest rates.
 
Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily.  Young people were going from house to house begging for food.  Not that they didn't want to work; there simply weren't any jobs.  My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need.  Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people - about 30 daily.
 
The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting each other.  Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna, Linz, and Graz were destroyed.  The people became desperate and petitioned the government to let them decide what kind of government they wanted.
 
We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany , where Hitler had been in power since 1933.  We had been told that they didn't have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living.  Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group -- Jewish or otherwise.  We were led to believe that everyone was happy.  We wanted the same way of life in Austria . We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family.  Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back.  Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.
 
We were overjoyed, and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades.  The new government opened up big field kitchens and everyone was fed.
 
After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order.  Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed.  The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.
  
Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women.  Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home.  An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn't support his family.  Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been required to give up for marriage.

Hitler Targets Education - Eliminates Religious Instruction for Children:
  
Our education was nationalized.  I attended a very good public school.  The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler's picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldn't pray or have religion anymore.  Instead, we sang "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," and had physical education.
 
Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance.  Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum.  They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time.  The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail.  The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination.  The rest of the day we had sports.  As time went along, we loved it.  Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free.  We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.
 
My mother was very unhappy.  When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent.  I told her she couldn't do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful.  There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun - no sports, and no political indoctrination.  I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it.  Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home.  I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing.  Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me.  They lived without religion.  By that time unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler.  It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly.  As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn't exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.
 
Equal Rights Hits Home:
  
In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established.  All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps.  At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn't work, you didn't get a ration card, and if you didn't have a card, you starved to death. Women who stayed home to raise their families didn't have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.
 
Soon after this, the draft was implemented.  It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps.  During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys.  They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps.  After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines.  When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat.  Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack.  I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service.  
 
Hitler Restructured the Family Through Daycare:
  
When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers.  You could take your children ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days a week, under the total care of the government.  The state raised a whole generation of children.  There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology.  By this time, no one talked about equal rights.  We knew we had been had.

Health Care and Small Business Suffer Under Government Controls:
  
Before Hitler, we had very good medical care.  Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna .  After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone.  Doctors were salaried by the government.  The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full.  If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn.  There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine.  Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.
  
As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income.  Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household.  We had big programs for families.  All day care and education were free.  High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized.  Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.
 
We had another agency designed to monitor business.  My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables.  Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump themselves on the corners.  Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar.  He couldn't meet all the demands.  Soon, he went out of business.  If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.
 
We had consumer protection.  We were told how to shop and what to buy.  Free enterprise was essentially abolished.  We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers.  The agents would go to the farms, count the live-stock, then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it.  
 
"Mercy Killing" Redefined:
  
In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps .  The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated.  So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded.  When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good manual work.  I knew one, named Vincent, very well.  He was a janitor of the school.  One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van.  I asked my superior where they were going.  She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write.  The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months.  They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness.  
 
As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death.  The villagers were not fooled.  We suspected what was happening.  Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months.  We called this euthanasia.  
 
The Final Steps - Gun Laws:

Next came gun registration.  People were getting injured by guns.  Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns.  Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms.  Not long after-wards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns.  The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.  
 
No more freedom of speech.  Anyone who said something against the government was taken away.  We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.
 
Totalitarianism didn't come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria .  Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath.  Instead, we had creeping gradualism.  Now, our only weapons were broom handles.  The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.
 
After World War II, Russian troops occupied Austria .  Women were raped, preteen to elderly.  The press never wrote about this either.  When the Soviets left in 1955, they took everything that they could, dismantling whole factories in the process.  They sawed down whole orchards of fruit, and what they couldn't destroy, they burned.  We called it The Burned Earth. Most of the population barricaded themselves in their houses.  Women hid in their cellars for 6 weeks as the troops mobilized.  Those who couldn't, paid the price.  There is a monument in Vienna today, dedicated to those women who were massacred by the Russians.  

This is an eye witness account.

[Amy]

Noel
That reads like Animal farm
It all starts out like a good idea but eventually goes the way of all bad things.

[noelsquibb]

Yup Amy

thats a good analogy.
At no point does anyone recognise that a line has been crossed.

The significant loss of freedoms we have seen in recent years have been done by stealth. Special interest groups, divide and rule tactics, and always for the greater good.

This is what makes big government so dangerous.

Where are the checks and balances ?

[Amy]

Apparantly, bliar passed over 1300 new laws or ammendments to existing laws which we wernt told about, they just got slipped in the bottom of the piles of paperwork that pass desks, and no doubt were all done not for the greater good but for the errosion of personal freedoms and to protect government from the democratic freedoms we used to enjoy.

[billi]

"It is not enough to change the world, we do this anyway. And it mostly happens without our efforts, regardless. What we have to do is to interpret these changes so we in turn can change the changes, so that the world doesn't go on changing without us—and does not ultimately become a world without us"

Günther Anders 1980 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_Anders

[Amy]

Who voted nazi in 1997?  Look what they did for us.

4,300 new laws passed by labour since 1997


DId you know that Labour has made it illegal to “disturb a pack of eggs when instructed not to do so by an officer”; and under a law updated in 2007 it is now illegal to “sell or offer for sale a bird of game killed on a Sunday or Christmas Day”. ? if you didn't you might find the rest of this interesting.

4,300: How Labour has created a new crime every day since 1997

The slew of new offences produced by this government has its comic touches, but also wider implications for civil liberties
Imagine arriving home after a fortnight’s holiday in the sun to find a deluge of mail and your burglar alarm going off. There is no sign of a break-in but an offence has been committed — by you. Under laws introduced by Labour, if you have failed to nominate a keyholder who can switch off your alarm you are guilty of an offence. You could be liable for a fine of £1,000 and could have to appear in front of a magistrate if you fail to pay a fixed penalty on time.

This is just one of 4,300 offences created by the Labour government since 1997 — an avalanche of legislation. It equates to an average of 28 offences every month since Labour came to power and it is getting worse. Under Gordon Brown, the Liberal Democrats say, the creation of offences has risen to 33 a month.

By contrast, the Conservative governments between 1988 and 1996 produced 494 offences in total. Since 1997 Labour has introduced more than 50 criminal justice bills to parliament — to the dismay of many lawyers, who believe much of it is more for show than real effect.

Richard Garside, director of the centre for crime and justice studies at King’s College London, said: “For the period since the war to around the 1980s you saw one major criminal justice bill each decade, but since 1997 we’ve seen more than 50. There has been an enormous cranking-up of activity in this area.”

Archbold, the barristers’ handbook, describes the government’s approach as a “disgrace”. The book has condensed its typeface to cram in the laws, which its publisher describes as an “explosion of activity”. The preface to the latest edition complains that there is “far too much criminal legislation” and attacks the government’s habit of “legislating by trial and error”.

Such is the output that the government appears unable to keep track of its own measures. In response to parliamentary questions, various Whitehall departments have said that the cost of compiling a list of all the criminal offences they have created in the past two years would be “disproportionate”.

Chris Huhne, home affairs spokesman for the Lib Dems, who has mounted a campaign against the “legislative diarrhoea”, said: “Most crimes that people care about have been illegal for years. Cutting crime should be about catching and reforming criminals, not creating law.”

As examples of unnecessary micromanaging laws, Huhne points out that Labour has made it illegal to “disturb a pack of eggs when instructed not to do so by an officer”; and under a law updated in 2007 it is now illegal to “sell or offer for sale a bird of game killed on a Sunday or Christmas Day”.

Petty though many of these offences seem, they contribute to a growing sense of government restriction creeping into private life. In some cases they also involve a serious erosion of civil liberties.

How did this happen — and what do opponents suggest?

The Nuclear Explosions (Prohibition and Inspections) Act of 1998 illustrates Labour’s approach. Even before MPs and civil servants spent hundreds of hours drafting and passing the law, common sense would have told most people that it was not a good idea to set off a nuclear bomb.

Under the Explosive Substances Act of 1883 you already faced life imprisonment for causing an explosion with intent to endanger life, attempting to cause an explosion with intent or possessing an explosive substance with intent, or conspiracy to cause an explosion with intent. Under other laws you could be prosecuted for possessing an explosive substance and face 14 years in prison. Failing that, there are laws on murder and genocide.

Yet the government decided it had to create a law that states in its first section: “Any person who knowingly causes a nuclear weapon test explosion or any other nuclear explosion is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for life” (at the same time, incidentally, section two of the act decrees that it is perfectly legal to set off a nuclear bomb “in the course of an armed conflict”.) The government argues that it brought in the law to comply with an international treaty. The Lib Dems, whose justice spokesman David Howarth is an academic expert on law, says the treaty did not require the government to pass a law to meet its obligations.

More reasonably, the government argues that changes in technology, business practices and lifestyles have had to be addressed by laws. It cites offences that were introduced as a result of the outbreak of “mad cow” disease and the foot and mouth crises. Others have followed advances in computing and telecommunications.

This may be reflected in the fact that the greatest number of offences — 960 — have been created by the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, while the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills has clocked up 647. No wonder businesses complain of red tape.

The Home Office and the Ministry of Justice between them account for 583 offences. “The government is not in the business of making new laws except when it is in the public interest,” the Ministry of Justice said. “Trivialising these laws ignores their significant benefits to the public. There is a range of reasons why such new laws are made; for example, technological advancement has created the need to protect the public through data protection legislation and by giving the police new powers.”

However, it is hard to discern such imperatives in some of the laws Labour has introduced. Specific measures have, for example, been taken to outlaw swimming in the wreck of the Titanic, obstructing work on the Docklands Light Railway in London and impersonating a barrister.

And remember, if you happen to come across an automatic rail weighbridge to which there is affixed a disqualification sticker — don’t use it. That might seem obvious but, just to make sure, Labour made it an offence under the Measuring Instruments Regulations of 2006.

Many of the laws come with serious penalties, including imprisonment. You can potentially be jailed for not having a licence for a church concert, smoking in a public place, selling a grey squirrel or shipping unlicensed fish. In all, more than 1,400 offences can result in prison sentences.

Some laws can have drastic side-effects as in the recent case of Philip Bowles, a 60-year-old businessman with no previous convictions who was charged with Vat offences. Bowles protested that he was unable to mount a proper defence because his money had been seized under the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 and his tax records had been taken by administrators. He was refused legal aid to hire a forensic accountant to examine his confiscated records. He was found guilty of switching a Vat liability between two companies and jailed for 3½ years.

Just before his sentencing a firm of accountants, acting pro bono, produced a financial report that his lawyers say proves his innocence. He is awaiting an appeal hearing at which it can be submitted.

Lawyers, burdened with keeping pace with the flood of offences, complain of failings on the government’s part. Kirsty Brimelow, a criminal law barrister, said: “Some sections are never brought in and others have been introduced at one point only to be taken out again later.”

Civil rights groups worry that many of the laws represent an unhealthy extension of the state into our private lives. “There has been too much acting in haste and repenting at leisure,” said Isabella Sankey, director of policy for Liberty. “Some of these laws are laughable, whereas others have seriously eroded our rights and freedoms. But among the many new offences that have flown onto the statute book in recent years, precious few have made us any safer.”

Section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000 gave police powers to stop and search anyone inside designated areas without any suspicion of wrongdoing. Yet recently there have been complaints that the law has been used not to catch terrorists but to stop people who have been taking innocent pictures of tourist sites and other buildings, particularly in London.

Huhne blames much of the deluge on ministers wanting to “mark their footprint in the legislative sand” and manipulate public opinion. Paul Mendelle QC, chairman of the Criminal Bar Association, seems to agree. He has labelled superfluous laws as “glory legislation” and cites as an example the law of selfdefence. “They have simply put in statutory form what was already in the common law,” he said. “It’s purely window dressing.”

Chris Grayling, the Tory spokesman on home affairs, said: “What Labour has been doing is using legislation as a public relations exercise. As a result we have ended up with far too many laws and far too much complexity. What you’ve got to remember is that your new bobby on the beat has to know a lot of these things in order to be able to arrest people appropriately. So what we are expecting our new young police officers to do is to absorb a huge amount of extra information that has little operational merit. All it does is give the government a few good headlines.”

What can be done? Grayling says that, if elected, he and Dominic Grieve, the Tory shadow justice secretary, will look to simplify the system, where possible repealing unnecessary or duplicated laws. “I think we need to go back and look and say: what’s being used and what’s not being used? What is duplicating and what’s not duplicating? For example, there is a very strong argument for simplifying the licensing laws,” Grayling said.

The Lib Dems have a more radical idea: they want to see a “stop unit” manned by a small number of legal experts in the Cabinet Office who would have the right to veto any fresh legislation. “This legislative diarrhoea is not about making us safer; it is merely ministers posturing on penalties,” said Huhne. “Many of these offences are worthless, as they duplicate offences that could perfectly well have been used instead. Whitehall urgently needs a stop mechanism that ensures that departments must check first whether the behaviour they dislike can be prosecuted already.”

If the morass of laws is enough to make you want to escape for a long contemplative walk with the dog, just pause and check the length of your dog lead before you go. There is a law for that as well. It states: “It is an offence when in charge of a dog on land to which a dog control order applies, not to keep the dog on a lead or on a lead of a maximum length prescribed in the order.”

A selection of comical and duplicated offences created by Labour since 1997 ...

• Carrying grain on a ship without a copy of the International Grain Code on board
• Shining a light at an aircraft to dazzle or distract the pilot
• Unauthorised fishing in the Lower Esk River
• Obstructing an authorised person from inspecting apple, pear, peach or nectarine orchards for the purposes of ascertaining whether grubbing up has been carried out
• Failure to attend a hearing by a bus lane contravention adjudicator
• As a merchant shipping officer, falsely claiming a door is closed and locked
• Selling non-native species such as a grey squirrel, ruddy duck or Japanese knotweed
• Obstructing workers carrying out repairs to the Docklands light railway
• Keeping a dog on a lead longer than a maximum length in a designated area nUsing an automatic rail-weighbridge which has a disqualification sticker on it
• Not having a licence for a church concert



The GOS says: While you can see the purpose of most of these laws, the important message in this article is that they are quite unnecessary because existing laws could be used instead. For instance, the law making it an offence for a merchant seaman to falsely claim that a door is closed and locked is obviously intended to prevent any repetition of the ferry disaster caused by a bow door being left open. Fair enough. But would not existing laws of manslaughter and criminal negligence have done just as well?

The fact is that this plethora of gratuitous law-making is a symptom of deep stupidity, naïveté and inexperience in the Labour Party. They really think that for a problem or an abuse to go away, all you have to do is make a law banning it. You want people to stop dropping chewing-gum on the pavement? Simple: just pass the Chewing Gum Disposal Act 2010 and they'll all stop, just like magic.

Never a thought for the subtle realities of life: do people want to stop doing it? - apparently not. Can they easily be apprehended? - definitely not. Do we have the manpower to enforce it? - probably not, but hey, we always need more and more low-grade public servants, don't we? Will it have the desired effect? - absolutely not; one or two pensioners will be imprisoned or executed for dropping their wine-gums, but young chewing-gum criminals will simply run away giggling. And they will always be able to move quicker than the middle-aged dole-queue refugees the council will employ to catch them. Q.E.D.

By the way, there is one major error in this article, and it's repeated elsewhere in this edition (Sunday 14th March 2010) of the Sunday Times - sloppy reporting, Mr.Witherow!

Although the 2003 Licensing Act did threaten to introduce licences for performances in churches, such was the outcry against this silly and unnecessary piece of legislation that the government conceded, and there is still no need to have a licence when holding a concert in a church, whether it's religious or secular. I know this because as a grumpy musician I was part of the campaign against the new law, and instrumental in recruiting the support of at least one very influential MP.

(There CAN occasionally be a need to get a licence from the Performing Rights Society, but that is a different matter from the local authority entertainment licence. A PRS licence concerns the collection of royalties, does not apply in most cases so long as the PRS is informed about the content of the concert, does not in any case apply if the music being performed is more than 90 years old, and is a civil matter, not criminal. Trust me, I'm a musician. And a bit of a barrack-room lawyer)

[Amy]

Parliament from French
parle = talk
ment = lies

politics
poly = many
tics = blood sucking parasites


There are a growing number of us who are angry at the lies and corruption of our so called leaders, and there is a growing number of folks who are spreading the word about the unlawful things these folks get up to in our name.
Whilst the majority of us feel the squeeze, they grant themselves huge expenses, banksters who fail in their jobs are given huge bonuses, the US bombs Yemen first on Dec 16th 120 dead and 40 injured
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0912/S00491.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8429370.stm
and then start a knicker bomber scam at christ mass as an excuse to bomb them further.
http://haskellfamily.blogspot.com/2010/01/latest-story-by-kurt-haskell.html

Some people need to wake up and open their eyes and see the evil deeds these people are doing in our name.
Turn off the tel- lie-vision and put you tube on and see and listen to stories by real people just like you and me who are not trying to rob you, their only agenda is spreading the truth.

The truth is out there you just gotta look for it, don't rely on the propaganda streamed into your home by the tel- lie-vision.

Some others sites you might like to look at
a different spin on news
http://www.medialens.org/

lawful rebellion
http://lawfulrebellion.org/

what happened to the british constitution
https://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/

the peoples united community
http://www.tpuc.org/

The black Pope...real ruler of the world
http://www.remnantofgod.org/blackpope.htm

Alex Jones....conspiracy/deceit/lies galore
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel

More govt conspiracy/deceit/lies exposed
http://tarpley.net/

I'm allowed to rob you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngpsJKQR_ZE

money and justice...you are officially dead!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh4fWI1WMS4

More freemen on the land
http://freedom.fmotl.com/TheGrandDeception04.mp3

China issues $47 trillion Lien against US
http://worldreports.org /news/251_47_trillion_lien_against_u.s._treasury_and__fed

Obama Deception, reversed on against everything he was voted in for in just 6 months.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

People have the power, the politicians only have power if we give them our consent, don't consent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0IM7Hobd_k

Police state
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfQrDK9YHas

Suppression of free speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znY13gLQ_yE&feature=related

Love police...hug a policeman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCPKzzGHfIQ&feature=related

But don't worry folks Everytrhing is OK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGA9ZUEa3ZY


I know many folks will find some, or all of this controversial, but you don't have to believe it, turn your tel-lie-vision on and listen to the nice, but unelected man Gordon Brown telling you how he's got your best interests at heart and is doing his utmost to sort the world out so we are all free and equal.
And pay your taxes and don't complain like good citizens.

But Seriously I'm hopefull that all but the completely brainwashed will find something in these links that they can identify with from their own, or their family, friends, work colleagues experiences.

It's time the people claimed their power.

[KenB]

Amy,

Some of these new offences remind me of the Constable Savage sketch from Not the Nine O'clock News

Possesion of an offensive wife
Looking at me in a funny way
Wearing a loud shirt in a built up area - after the hours of darkness
Walking on the cracks in the pavement

117 ridiculous and trumped up charges in one month   


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO8EpfyCG2Y



Ken

[Amy]

Yeah, thats the one. Those sketches were thought up in response to the thatcher jackboot and antics of the police who were like nazis, fitting up people like the brrmingham 5 etc.

Here we are 28 yrs later, and its got worse than we could ever imagain and all under a supposedly socialist government.