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« Reply #270 on: January 31, 2008, 10:30:18 PM »

Smug, Moi ?

Frot, I believe you and the crew are doing great things.  Keep up the good trail-blazing work.  There can't be many in the country with a home built lard-fired CHP system.

I wish I had more hours to work on my system, but things have been a little slow around here recently.

I blame this wretched computer.... and cheap supermarket red wine.  Grin



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« Reply #271 on: January 31, 2008, 10:45:46 PM »

all those old combi's gone to combi heaven when they could have been frotterlized, what a waste.
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« Reply #272 on: January 31, 2008, 10:56:34 PM »

Ken, step away from the Cotes Du Rhone please....
You will be just a leetle bit justified in your smugness once we confirm what foul happenstance hath befallen the heat exchanger..........   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Combi boilers? In skips? Complete madness! I bet most of them either have a small electronical fault or are just a bit old and sad. Most of them costly components good as not quite new..! Pumps for example - last forever. Heat exchanger - arm and leg required in payment. etc... mumble..

Incidentally - if anyone would like to come and play with lard with us at F.T. you cut right along here sharpish! All welcome to join in the weekend sweepstake guessing what time Stoveboy will be up. You may wonder why he hasnt been on here rebuking me roundly for constant p*sstaking. Well its cos he's too feckin busy having a rest to register!

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« Reply #273 on: January 31, 2008, 11:10:32 PM »

Frot,

Is that a recruiting drive or are you looking for pressed men?

I'd love to come and help one weekend but I'm washing what's left of my hair and trying to get the carbon (Lister WVO coke) out of my size 11 footprints.

Stoveboy needs his sleep in the mornings, bless him, by all accounts he's keeping the local ladies entertained all night.

Cotes du Rhone!? - certainment pas - Ah speet on de cotes du rhone,  et sa mere etait un 'amster  et son pere avait un petit aroma d'elderberries etc etc..... je prefere beaucoup le Tesco £3.99, ou £10 pour trois - tres bien- sacre bleu !





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« Reply #274 on: February 01, 2008, 01:57:09 AM »

all those old combi's gone to combi heaven when they could have been frotterlized, what a waste.

At Brecon tip they SELL all sorts of junque. Don't know about combis.  Perhaps a word to your local council would allow you to acquire 1 or 2 for a green purpose!
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« Reply #275 on: February 01, 2008, 02:10:36 AM »

At Monmouth tip....if you take anything there, they say you can't dump it. If you look at anything there, they say you can't have it!
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« Reply #276 on: February 01, 2008, 01:06:17 PM »

Effin elfin safety i think you'll find.......    Angry Angry Angry Angry
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« Reply #277 on: February 01, 2008, 05:48:22 PM »

Why do elves need to be safer than the rest of us?
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« Reply #278 on: February 01, 2008, 09:19:20 PM »

At Monmouth tip....if you take anything there, they say you can't dump it. If you look at anything there, they say you can't have it!

Can't be too overworked there then!  Sure it's Fit for Purpose?  Grin

Must be a good run out from Monmouth to Brecon, over the Black Mountains and back past Lord Hereford's Knob,  but closes mid day Sat iirc.
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« Reply #279 on: February 01, 2008, 11:15:11 PM »

At Monmouth tip....if you take anything there, they say you can't dump it. If you look at anything there, they say you can't have it!
Monmouth tip?...dont get me started, Ivan   what a miserable little troll Angry

The one over the border in Ross is always open every other second wednesday evening of the month, but only if it's a public holiday. Roll Eyes

....havn't even had the chance to get banned from there Grin

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« Reply #280 on: February 01, 2008, 11:17:53 PM »

BTW....how's the heat exchanger, Frotter?
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« Reply #281 on: February 02, 2008, 11:45:49 PM »

Ooof - mind the gap!!
Sorry bout that.....

Well after our small triumph of transfering heat we shut it down considering it tested..... the following day it was noticed the pressure guage was reading a bit zero like. Seemed odd so we charged the blighter up again with about 1 bar presuure to run it up again... after a few mins it was noticed that it seemed to be raining...
Out of the great umbilical - aaarrggh!






Very tedious to burrow into there i can tell you... seems one of the push fit elbows was not so much pushed as nudged... SPECCYBLOKE!!!!   Roll Eyes






So anyway.... i went up the ally Tower of Fear and fixed that and re-presurised the loop AGAIN. All ok now..
We fired the system up again and got radiators toasty - result! Then some four eyed bloke who shall remained nameless reckoned we ought to crank Ivor up to full bolix for a 'proper test'. Ok then we did that. Kicking out about 68 amps all getting hotter etc...
Oooo wait a mo.. whats that funy smell? Whats that funny booming noise...? Couldnt be the great solder joint at the FAR end of the heat exchanger giving way could it..? Shocked

Observant viewers may just spot a trickle of precious solder on the floor. Now THAT is hot!!
And knackered.
B*gger.






More doom next time.....

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« Reply #282 on: February 03, 2008, 12:00:57 AM »

Oh, chap........argh!

Courage, mon brave! Cry

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« Reply #283 on: February 04, 2008, 10:22:47 PM »

Ay up!!

Once hoiked out the heat exchanger looked a bit ominously 'black, black... Now Johnny...'





So we melted the end joints off and found, once again, that solder was very def conspicuous by its absence..... (hmmm? Did you say something, Ken....?)






After cleaning up and dressing to fit a bit better the end coupler was brazed on and small gaps we couldnt reach plugged with fibrous fire cement. Ought to last a while. Speccius is thinking about making a new HE from stainless tubes...





Seems our 4 x 15mm tubes are too small for the gases, the flow is speeded up which is probably why the far end gets so hot - not enough time for the water to take out most of the heat.
One lives and learns old boy!   Wink
All back in currently and working in manual mode on low rpm.. (Speccybloke, step AWAY from that throttle...!)

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« Reply #284 on: February 04, 2008, 10:40:06 PM »

frotter

my heat exchanger uses 22mm as the hot pipe and 28mm as the cooling pipe. connected together with 2 x 28mm T compression joints and two filed out 22mm inserts to fit into the 28mm T compression joint. exhaust through the 22mm pipe water between 22mm and 28mm  pipe and not a drop of solder to be seen.

not tried on a lister yet but works well on my esse stove
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