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« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2011, 11:37:18 PM »

I'm sure that I read somewhere that a well insulated 100m square house with UFH could be heated with 20kwh per day (though I was hoping it would be less)

My place is 100m2 and I averaged 20kWh/day of electricity in January plus 50kg of coal, but that was for ALL the electricity, not just heating, and my house is an inefficient shape (high ratio of walls/roof/floor to internal volume) and my insulation is less than you're planning to use.

As for the Ecocent, there's nothing complex about it. It's a tank with a compressor and heat exchanger. Fit and forget.
For goodness sake, you already have:

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« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2011, 11:47:42 PM »

For goodness sake, you already have:

Not to mention the Land Rover.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2011, 12:45:06 AM »

I'm sure Mrs C and C Minor will pedal faster if necessary  crack
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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2011, 05:31:53 AM »

Morning all,

you're right Justme, I'd be stupid not to add the wood stove.

Malcolm, I've not written the Ecocent off yet, just need to do more reading, I'm fitting MVHR anyway, am I right in thinking the Ecocent could be integrated into this  Huh I know I've got piles of stuff to maintain but it strikes me that the Ecocent is like a very complicated fridge with a pressure cylinder under it, how many fridges do you know that have lasted 20 years and have a potential bomb under them that needs servicing every year  Grin Like I said, I am tempted, you've done a pretty good sales pitch so expect a visit  Grin

Ed, please do not mock the afflicted, I have been seeing a councilor about my problem  Grin

Morning Eleanor, how's Mindy with a nor'easter  sh*tfan

Cheers, Paul
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12kw Lister
11m turbine tower
10 hundred ah 48v battery bank
900' pennstock
8kw woodburner
7kw Lister
6 bladed Rutland
50w of solar
4 and a half Kw inverter
3kw Lister
2 hydro turbines
and a Proven in a pear tree :-)

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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2011, 08:59:19 AM »

I'm fitting MVHR anyway, am I right in thinking the Ecocent could be integrated into this  Huh I know I've got piles of stuff to maintain but it strikes me that the Ecocent is like a very complicated fridge with a pressure cylinder under it, how many fridges do you know that have lasted 20 years and have a potential bomb under them that needs servicing every year  Grin Like I said, I am tempted, you've done a pretty good sales pitch so expect a visit  Grin

Yes. The Ecocent is an excellent MVHR unit. Better than MVHR, I think, because the exhaust air is generally colder than the outside air.
Maintenance means replacing the anode once or twice a year (somewhat less arduous than maintaining the Landrover).

My uncle bought my granny an Electrolux fridge in 1956. I inherited it in 1987. Last year it was semi-retired, now doing beer cooling duty, but still working perfectly after 55 years.
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« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2011, 09:06:09 AM »

Paul,

I did a fair bit of research on heat pumps and the barge.  The best one would have been the ground source using sea water but as the tide goes out here I wouldn't have been able to get enough heat to last.  You won't be burying your slinky will you.   hysteria  Air source seemed good but when you really need it it doesn't work too well.  The damp air of the marsh, and I suspect, the "wet coast" means it spends most of it's time on defrost.  The other problem was feeding the thing with precious electricity not to mention the noise issue when living in a tin box.   Grin

If you only have to top up with the WBS then it's no so bad as having to cut for the entire winter.  Draughts are about nil when the stove is shut down and if you have a dedicated air 'ole for the stove you could perhaps shut that too.  I would think you use heat for 10 months of the year up there unless you're real hard like.  Mid May to mid September is my only real heat free days.  I will often light the stove on a chilly or wet evening in September, well any time really.  If I don't burn it - it will only rot.

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« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2011, 09:26:38 AM »

I'm fitting MVHR anyway, am I right in thinking the Ecocent could be integrated into this  Huh I know I've got piles of stuff to maintain but it strikes me that the Ecocent is like a very complicated fridge with a pressure cylinder under it, how many fridges do you know that have lasted 20 years and have a potential bomb under them that needs servicing every year  Grin Like I said, I am tempted, you've done a pretty good sales pitch so expect a visit  Grin

Yes. The Ecocent is an excellent MVHR unit. Better than MVHR, I think, because the exhaust air is generally colder than the outside air.
Maintenance means replacing the anode once or twice a year (somewhat less arduous than maintaining the Landrover).

My uncle bought my granny an Electrolux fridge in 1956. I inherited it in 1987. Last year it was semi-retired, now doing beer cooling duty, but still working perfectly after 55 years.

Right that's it, I'm coming over to check out your fridge and its contents  Grin
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10 hundred ah 48v battery bank
900' pennstock
8kw woodburner
7kw Lister
6 bladed Rutland
50w of solar
4 and a half Kw inverter
3kw Lister
2 hydro turbines
and a Proven in a pear tree :-)

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« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2011, 09:36:46 AM »


Right that's it, I'm coming over to check out your fridge and its contents  Grin

I reloaded it at the weekend so they're nice and cool.
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« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2011, 09:47:43 AM »


Right that's it, I'm coming over to check out your fridge and its contents  Grin

I reloaded it at the weekend so they're nice and cool.

Have you any idea what you're doing to the environment with a fridge that's older than me (just)  ralph
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12kw Lister
11m turbine tower
10 hundred ah 48v battery bank
900' pennstock
8kw woodburner
7kw Lister
6 bladed Rutland
50w of solar
4 and a half Kw inverter
3kw Lister
2 hydro turbines
and a Proven in a pear tree :-)

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« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2011, 12:39:07 PM »


Have you any idea what you're doing to the environment with a fridge that's older than me (just)  ralph

Keeping beer cool, which keeps me happy.
I'm an integral part of the Drynoch environment therefore my fridge is good for the environment.
(don't you love logic?)
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« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2011, 08:59:22 PM »

Am I invited ?
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« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2011, 09:09:30 PM »

Am I invited ?

Only if you bring a pig  flyingpig   ralph
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11m turbine tower
10 hundred ah 48v battery bank
900' pennstock
8kw woodburner
7kw Lister
6 bladed Rutland
50w of solar
4 and a half Kw inverter
3kw Lister
2 hydro turbines
and a Proven in a pear tree :-)

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« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2011, 11:23:03 PM »

Am I invited ?

You're welcome to come and look at my set-up Stefan. No pig required.
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