Low Sulphur Diesel Additives ?

[russ_fae_fyvie]

Just thought I'd add an update after I called SDMO today about all the rumours and stories about the LS Diesel effecting the actual engine.

Apparantly according to them, the LS Diesel can be run in the new generator without any problem and does not need any additive, such as 2 stroke oil, etc.

They did however confirm what others have said about the long term storage and the ingress of water, or even water appearing as condensation on the inside of the tank and then mixing with the diesel.

There is an additive you can get which prevents that which  I am now looking at, so more soon !

It actually set my  mind at rest regarding the actual generator, just have to have a think about how to handle the storage if it isn't used in the quantities that would mean frequent refills.

[biff]

our old nixon went on strike.
                         first it skipped a beat now and then,i would go out and have a look but everything seemed normal,then one night it just went blank.the engine motored away happily but no lecky,i did not have time to fiddle about with it,actually i could hardly bend over,so i pulled out the reserve geni,a noisey 4kw affair, noisey but frugal on diesel,that night i went online and looked up scores of genies,all kinds of listers,since we only use the geni once a month,if that,we needed something that was quiet and ready to start immediatly so we settled on a ecogen,it landed a few days later but i could hardly go near it because i was just after having an injection in my back,so there it sat in its big box on a pallet for a week or so till finally i was able to pull the cardboard away and take a look.surprise,,surprise,,after checking for oil..full,and checking for diesel,about 3 ltrs in the bottom of the tank,enough to register on the dial i turned the key and away she went.,,the instructions are quite clear,,20 hours on the clock is oil change time and untill then only nice half loads.
     the signs are good,its quiet,much quieter than the nixon.the exhaust comes out the bottom and can be connected to a ground pipe to make it quieter still.the sellers took no chances and made sure it had oil and diesel,there was no rooting round connecting up wires,just strip off the cardboard and turn the key,impressive !!.i have seen a good few versions of this particular model.this one came with a proper fuel filter in its glass holder so you can see at a glance if the diesel is ok.it also has an hour meter,little things like that mean the manafacturer cared enough about his machine.most of these come with the fuel line direct to the pump so any gunge will destroy the workings,some come with an ordinary placky inline filter which cannot block the water.
   as for the nixon,well i have put it away carefully and will attend to it when i get my dream shed finished,(one of many projects on my list).
   the ecogen has only got 4 hours on the clock but if it does as well as the nixon we will be more than happy. oh,,and the price,, 725euros delivered to donegal.,,,,,,,,,,biff

[EccentricAnomaly]

Which "ecogen"? Apart from the Baxi one Google finds quite a few other uses of the rather obvious name.

[Philip R]

As an aside, it is worth noting that some car manufactures will not endorse the use of biodiesel other than road fuel to the current standard was EN590. If the plan is to raise from 5% to higher levels, how will this be managed. Another point is that biodiesel can cause non compatible elastomeric seals in the fuel system to swell and then leak, as happened in the early days of synthetic lube oils. ( Most UK  built cars of the era  leaked anyway!!). Also that certain cars with certain manufactured diesel systems are fitted with the compatible seal materials at relatively little extra cost.

With respect to red diesel (Class D gasoil). The diesel bug thrives in the oil water interface especially when the red dye is present. I have knowledge of gas turbine generators fuelled with "Red", blocking fuel filters & failing. After conversion to non red dyed Class C2 Kerosene ( domestic heating oil) problem gone. More expensive in terms of calorific value than class D but far less prone to cold weather waxing.

Get rid of the red and the problem reduces. Adding more veggie oil as mix or as diester will likely still cause longer term storage degradation.
If the red is bought for non road use, is it illegal to decolourise it and store on your premises? So long as not used in road vehicle,cannot see it being a  problem. HM Revenue and customs will probably disagree.
PhilipR

[biff]

h,mmmm ed.
         i could,nt even tell you what make it was,i even got that wrong,i had to go and look.its an evopower, model LDG6000s 

[EccentricAnomaly]

Thanks Biff. What RPM does it run at? Its little brother runs at 3000 which seems to my ignorant mind as a bit quick for a weasel.

[biff]

ed,
   same as that,3000rpm.speedy i agree but it hums nicely and the noise is not noticable in the house.