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« on: October 19, 2011, 05:16:02 PM » |
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hello does any one know of a make and model of washing machine currently manufactured that has wait for it a hot and a cold fill seperate, i am shure many of you have pursude the same quest,
all info greatfully recieved rog
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freddyuk
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2011, 07:00:55 PM » |
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Not researched recently but we have an American top loader import which not only takes a double load (whatever that might be) but it has hot and cold fill. They were imported with the power conversion through a dedicated importer so try a Google. I had a few problems with the water pressure as we are well fed so I drilled out the inlets which were tiny and it seems to work fine. It has been going for about 12 years. Not sure if CE regulations will have stopped this trade?
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JohnS
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2011, 07:02:48 PM » |
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There are quite a few that do. My LG does. However, it only uses hotwater if the programme temperature if 60+. Thus at 30 or 40,it only uses cold.
Have you tried a search? There is quite a bit of info around on the subject.
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Greenbeast
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2011, 07:31:38 PM » |
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Some of us have modified our own!
I now wash clothes entirely on solar water between march and october
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Iain
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 11:54:38 AM » |
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Hi
All I did was to fit an second solenoid (space and fixings already there for second solenoid,next to cold solenoid, machine new last year) I have a timer to allow hot(solar) during the fill part of the cycle and then reverts to cold (rainwater) for the rinse and end of the cycle. Works very well. I wonder if on some markets they have hot and cold fill so still have the place for a second solenoid on the UK model.
Iain
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 12:21:03 PM » |
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Hi
All I did was to fit an second solenoid (space and fixings already there for second solenoid,next to cold solenoid, machine new last year) I have a timer to allow hot(solar) during the fill part of the cycle and then reverts to cold (rainwater) for the rinse and end of the cycle. Works very well. I wonder if on some markets they have hot and cold fill so still have the place for a second solenoid on the UK model.
Iain
This is exactly what i did |
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2011, 10:31:42 PM » |
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This is what made Britain "Great".  |
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ecogeorge
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 10:52:43 PM » |
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I put a "y" piece on the red and blue hoses and only connected to the hot supply!
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2011, 09:41:51 AM » |
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I did look into it, but given the rather tiny amount of water used by a modern washing machine, and the low temperatures (washing poweder works just as well at room temperature as 60*) in modern washing machines, its really didnt seem worth it, even if you have a really short pipe run from the boiler to the washing machine.
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2011, 09:58:32 AM » |
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Ecogeorge,
This means you are using hot water to rinse !?
Considering pipe runs and dead legs or combi stop/start losses not so sure it is worth it. Increasingly the more i understand then the more the just in time mentality makes sense.
This has been discussed here before and well worth the research.
Ken
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Greenbeast
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2011, 01:54:36 PM » |
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I suppose i'm somewhat lucky in that regard.
When installing my new boiler and solar i deliberately sited my cylinder between the kitchen and bathroom, they are adjacent rooms.
So my pipe run is tiny. I think a standard 30/40 degree run on my machine went from 1.2kWh to 0.2kWh, at the time i calculated a 2 year payback period. which has probably just passed this month actually
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2011, 05:27:15 PM » |
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Greenbeast,
Is that just the change in elec use or in total energy use. How much hot water energy have you included in that figure?
Ken
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2011, 06:54:58 PM » |
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that was electricity use, the hot water is free
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ecogeorge
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2011, 09:05:53 PM » |
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Ecogeorge,
This means you are using hot water to rinse !?
Considering pipe runs and dead legs or combi stop/start losses not so sure it is worth it. Increasingly the more i understand then the more the just in time mentality makes sense.
This has been discussed here before and well worth the research.
Ken
Yes , sometimes when the air is cold the washing steams when it is hung out !! I agree not the best use of hot water but 98% of the time its been heated by solar or the woodburner. Sometimes we try to run a tap first to empty the dead leg but not usually. Dishwasher was cold fill only , ...... so it got plumbed into the hot  . Try to run either during the day only when pv in operation. rgds George. |
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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2011, 09:27:27 PM » |
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We do same with dishwasher (HW plumbed in, and daytime for PV). Washing machine was hw plumbed in, but got vetoed by swmbo as some clothes that were "cool wash only" were getting subjected to 50C+ water.  |
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