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Author Topic: Marooned on a Greek Island  (Read 1138 times)
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2011, 04:54:34 PM »

Government!  Whats that?  Here we have a Dictatorship. The country has been run by two familys since the sixties either papandreos or karamanlis. All the presidents have been father/son or uncle/nephew. You are right the people have given up because there is no new blood allowed to get even a foothold in parliament.
lets hope the Germans can boot them all out and Greece can start again.

Oh by the way today was too windy so there were no ferryboats again!!
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2011, 09:23:54 PM »

If this isn't too patronising, can I say how interesting it is to hear some real comments about Ireland and Greece. radio phone-ins and the like are generally filled with poorly informed people, trying to dislodge a chip or too.

The BBC did Greece proud a week or two ago, short news story, pointing out that the majority pay PAYE (well an equivalent) tens of thousand made unemployed, and the price rises in the shops, just as salaries are going down. Not the usual xenophobic stories of smugglers and tax evaders.

There was a good documentary on the rise and fall of Ireland too. I think it was about 3 months or more ago. What struck me was the dignified way people of all ages seemed to be saying, 'we got carried away, we spent too much, so it all went wrong'. None of the usual blame game, they seemed to take it on the chin.

Different story in Britain, the banks lent too much, the government allowed it, and we all got stuck in. So is it the fault of all three, is it hell, the people don't want to change what they do, and the governments cant admit fault, so instead we put the whole blame on those bankers. We don't even know who 'those bankers' are, but it was their fault Bob remortgaged his house to go on holiday and buy a boat.

Maybe if we had the guts to admit our mistakes and share the blame like the Irish, we could sort things out a little faster. Then again, blaming Visa and Mastercard is a lot easier!

Martyn.
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2011, 11:09:33 AM »

M, If you read this link, http://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15441.0.html  Then you get the Italian and the French side.

rogeriko, As i said in a previous post, I know your cosmopolitan Island reasonably well and can sympathies with your predicament, although you do have an international airport that surely could help out.

But your ferries are ruddy scary, some are twice the size of our cross channel ferries, and whizz in and out of some very small ports. The bit of concrete as a jetty on smaller islands and in small inlets is to be well avoided and at anchorages and then line ashore allowance's should be made for the ferries manoeuvrings. scary. Oh yes watch out for the hydrofoils, they rise up as soon as possible, and go like stinko.

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