Legalized Body Snatching in WALES?

[clockmanFR]

Legalized Body Snatching in WALES?

I was going to take my family to the famous railways in Wales for a few weeks’ holidays next year, not now.

One accident and they just take your bits.

I will also have to make sure that no airplane flight that i am on, over flies Wales, one little crash, and they take your bits.

What’s the World coming to if you have to wear great big signs, saying “Leave my bits Alone”?

[M]

This has become surprisingly controversial.

Don't be put off, bring us your bits.

Don't forget to bring your own bags to put said bits in, otherwise we'll charge you 5p for one.

Mart.

[clockmanFR]

M, "surprisingly" "controversial".

I have this vision of groups of surgeon's hanging around the Welsh Border Controlls, "They look dodgy, English, Got em, more bits for the Bank".

And then like all tales, "surprising" news of the said bits being traded around the World.

[M]

M, "surprisingly" "controversial".

I have this vision of groups of surgeon's hanging around the Welsh Border Controlls, "They look dodgy, English, Got em, more bits for the Bank".

And then like all tales, "surprising" news of the said bits being traded around the World.

I think the plan is to use the parts to build a team of giant cyborgs ready for the next RWC in 2015.

To put things in context for the less 'Welsh informed' among us. The main proposal is to apply an opt out (not opt in) for organ donors. The plan was to start with driving licence applications, when all new drivers would be required to opt out if they didn't want to donate.

I think you'll be safe Clockman as you have to live and die in Wales for a sufficient period of time (the living part, where not that fussy how long you've been dead), to be 'harvested'. But we can wait for your flight and massage the 'time' period if you like?

Rainy days should be helpful for harvesting organ donors in body bags - or motorcyclists in leathers, as they are sometimes known. 

Mart.

[desperate]

I think it's a smart way to go, as long as there is a pretty foolproof way to opt out for the squeamish. After all what good are my remains to me if I get splatted while doing 50 on a motorway some folk just may find them very usefull..............some may find them hazardous, but that's another story, it's the ultimate recycling scheme.

Desp

[smegal]

The "opt out" process for donors is long overdue!

Using myself as an example, I wouldn't opt in but I wouldn't opt out either. That means that my slackness could save a life (or at least benefit one) should the worst happen.

[desperate]

Agreed Smegal, another example, I've opted in years ago but I am forever loosing my donor card or don't have it on my person when out and about. Now if I get smeared up the carriageway it would save no end of time if they could just saw a few spares off there and then. The alternative is presumably they have to first identify me and then contact next of kin, doctor or whoever, why bother?

Desp

[Ted]

No changes are planned before 2015 - so you would be safe next year in any case.

[HalcyonRichard]

Hi,
     As usual it's nowhere as simple as all that. You need to identify the person and have their full medical records before you can transplant bits that may be diseased - aids-malaria-alchoholic liver-shot lungs etc............................... Some countries have a system where you are given the choice - say on a driving license to opt in or out. But you have to do one. We need to increase the amount of donors and this can easily be done without resort to compulsary opt in. This is just a lazy politicians way of making a quick(possibly wrong) decision to look like they are doing something. We have a fantastic tradition of benevolence in this country (blood donation etc).  Why upset some people by compulsion when it's not required ?

Maybe doctors should ask every patient when they see them and then add a note to their medical records if they opt in.

Regards Richard

[smegal]

Hi,
     As usual it's nowhere as simple as all that. You need to identify the person and have their full medical records before you can transplant bits that may be diseased - aids-malaria-alchoholic liver-shot lungs etc............................... Some countries have a system where you are given the choice - say on a driving license to opt in or out. But you have to do one. We need to increase the amount of donors and this can easily be done without resort to compulsary opt in. This is just a lazy politicians way of making a quick(possibly wrong) decision to look like they are doing something. We have a fantastic tradition of benevolence in this country (blood donation etc).  Why upset some people by compulsion when it's not required ?

Maybe doctors should ask every patient when they see them and then add a note to their medical records if they opt in.

Regards Richard

As with everything, most people are indifferent. Making people have to opt out will massively increase the number of donors, due to people being too indifferent to bother to opt out. The people who are strongly against will still opt out.

I love how people all have their different subjects to be alarmed by. For some it is organ donation, for others wind turbines, for others nuclear power.

[SteveH]

 Seems like a good idea to me...

 Sorry clockmanFR, this is getting a bit too "Daily Mail" for me...

[clockmanFR]

Thanks Ted, i will get my hols in quick.

But going on the medical scandals so far, how long before evidence of opt out will be ignored by those who should no better in the name of saving someone else. And i do not care what anyone else says this area will become commercialised, ie, a business.

Look at the latest report on how allot of hospitals treat the elderly, cut backs, save staff, yhea right and who made those decisions in the first place.

Here in France you have to carry your identity papers with you at all times, its the law, but in UK sorry Wales???

Looks like i will have to get the family tattooed on their arms, but first check with legal to get the wording spot on, as those who want my "bits" will surely find a way around my request for opt out.

 

[Baz]

Will the organs of people living close to nuclear power stations be in demand?

[clockmanFR]

Baz, nearest to me is the 3 at Dunkerque, (the French have a habit of putting theres on the borders of other country's).

In fact the French Nuce's are probably nearer to the most of the UK than to me in Middle of Normandy. 

[smegal]

Will the organs of people living close to nuclear power stations be in demand?

Of course, unless there is a massive leak.