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Author Topic: Dimmable LED replacement for normal 60W bayonet fitting lightbulbs  (Read 1717 times)
cornishben
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« on: November 28, 2011, 01:36:29 PM »

As per the title.  I'm looking to replace some/all of our bayonet style light bulbs in our house with LED versions and looking for recommendations.  Criteria:

230v AC
as 'warm' white as possible
bayonet fitting
normalish shape (not super long like some CFL's)
dimmable (actually only have one bulb on a dimmer so any recommendations for non dimmable also please)

I have some screw fitting spot style LEDs bulbs in a couple of table lamps and they're great.

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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2011, 10:54:29 AM »

Think you won’t find any at a sensible price. I have looked too and basically all the offerings are spotlights. If you want something that gives a wide or 360 degree beam you are out of luck.

I think though that the industry should aim for 160 degree outputs rather than the narrow beam of most offerings as if ceiling mounted you don’t really want to light the ceiling as the amount reflected back is small so not energy efficient.

They should aim for custom light fittings rather than just generally replacing standard light bulbs as much of the output of a standard light bulb is lost because it lights things that do not need lighting, like a blocking light shade.

It’s a balance between efficiently and glare.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2011, 11:38:30 AM »

hello,

not supercheap - www.lightplanet.co.uk/media/product_downloads/LightPlanetEQrangeV2-1.pdf
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2011, 01:26:58 PM »

You could try the 'corncob' style bulb. Cheapish but look terrible. I've tried the 3w type that are made to look like a traditional bulb and quite frankly the output is pathetic - okay for a hallway but forget it in a lounge. In the lounge I've got GU10 fittings with 78led spots in them.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2011, 06:06:19 PM »

I got some of Phillips "my ambience" GU10 replacements which are dimmable and give a good light output and they also do BC fitting lamps that you could try.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2011, 09:21:11 PM »

Why must you keep the fittings? Bayonet-style LEDs are exceedingly thin on the ground. Change the fittings too and the world is very much your oyster. Are we talking room lights, task lights, something else? What exactly are you trying to achieve?
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2011, 09:44:19 AM »

Why must you keep the fittings? Bayonet-style LEDs are exceedingly thin on the ground. Change the fittings too and the world is very much your oyster. Are we talking room lights, task lights, something else? What exactly are you trying to achieve?
Sorry Wookey - was a bit thin on detail there, plus I've realised they're screw E27 fittings not bayonet!  I've just fitted 3 'droplet' lights above our dining table, which have a 230v screw fitting.  The bulbs won't be visible as the 'droplets' are solid, so light only comes out downwards.  The circuit is through choice on a dimmer switch.  Must keep the fittings as these are the new oens the missus has bought  Wink

I've actually ordered three of these "Megaman GSU111d Dimmerable GLS ES Bulb 11W ES Warm White", will see how they are.  However would still be keen for an LED solution as 3x 11W is still... 33W which is quite a lot for something that will be on a lot of the time.  If I can find something lower power I can then use the above bulbs elsewhere in the house


sorry slightly rambling this.. I guess the  interesting point here is that they coudl be spotlight type bulbs as they only shine downwards, if that widens the options
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2011, 12:54:40 AM »

How about this: http://www.leds.de/en/LED-lamps-and-luminaires/LED-lamps/Toshiba-E-Core-LED-bulb-E27-8-4W.html
8.4W 650lm (100lm/W) E27 fitting. 33.5 Euro

They have some lower-output (350lm) which might be more suitable if you have 3, but they are only 60lm/W.
Or 136lm, 3W, omnidirectional: http://www.leds.de/en/LED-lamps-and-luminaires/LED-lamps/Philips-Novallure-LED-Bulb-E27-3W-warmwhite.html 45lm/W 12.9 Euro.

Don't know if any of those dim usefully. Probably not.

 
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2011, 08:39:51 AM »

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10pcs-E27-GU10-Light-Led-Lamp-Bulbs-Adapter-Converter-High-quality-/200688619940?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb9f951a4

convert e27 to gu10 adaptor. then use gu10 bulbs?
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2011, 08:42:34 AM »

convert e27 to gu10 adaptor. then use gu10 bulbs?

wookey - thanks for the research, those look funky but unfortunately not dimmable.

guy - genius idea!  GU10's are much cheaper and more choice.. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2011, 12:48:37 AM »

You're a hard man to please:

http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/500767757-Free-Shipping-5pcs-lot-450LM-7W-E27-108-LED-Screw-Corn-Light-Bulb-200-230V-wholesalers.html

7W, 65lm/W, 450lm, dimmable, E27, $3.16 each (!) ($22 for 5, free shipping from China if you are not in a hurry).

Probably hordes more on that site - they seem to have a lot of everything!
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2011, 06:50:11 AM »

Ok what about these they do come in a ec27 base, Tesco has them for £12.97
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-MyAmbiance-929000182301-Watt-Dimmable/dp/B005OYW3J8/ref=sr_1_4?s=lighting&ie=UTF8&qid=1324018051&sr=1-4
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2011, 02:34:18 PM »

thanks guys
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2012, 09:47:03 PM »

I can vouch for three B22 LED bulbs.

First one we got was a Osram Parathom Pro LED 60 from B&Q just over £30, its dimmable, very bright, and 3000K (warm white / white) I make the / white because it is white.
Definately not a worth of money, and I really like it.

For a 60W replacement, that is a true replacement!
Phillips A60 BC Bulb, I got one on Amazon for £35 including delivery
But here is a link to the exact one on John Lewis...
http://www.johnlewis.com/231387139/Product.aspx

Used it to replace a 100W light bulb at the mothers house, she has CFL's everywhere but one 100W bulb had to stay because CFL's are pants, we all know that, but put up with them for low consumption.
Dimmable, 2700K, 800+ lumen, it is a true 60W swap, it looks yellow in the picture, but when lit those bits glow white.

For somthing slightly cheaper the Osram 40W LED bulb in B&Q is white, and perfect for a small bathroom / landing, where you want/need instant light, can't wait around for CFL.

Old thread I know, but hopefully will provide some good insight to those wanting to try LEDs.
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2012, 10:03:11 PM »


Not to shoot down the product as I have not tried it, but there stats and claims are wrong, just plain lies to make there product sound better...
A 40W bulb kicks out around 450lm, 60W bulb 800+, and 100W 1100+

The EQ80 listed to replace a 100W bulb has less lumen that a 60W bulb. On that basis, I would stay well clear.
If they own a lux & lumen meter, they can easily get some 60W / 100W pearl bulbs from Aldi / Barmy Bobs or anywhere and list truthful product claims.
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