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« on: November 29, 2011, 05:37:03 PM » |
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This afternoon's meeting is available on Parliament TV here: http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=9565Must watch for anyone involved or interested in the PV business. |
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 10:02:40 PM » |
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Who was the MP who threw a wobbly over the Minister's graph? It made my day. I really thought that the minister was walking on eggshells whenever he referred to his graphs.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 08:58:18 AM » |
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If it is the one I am thinking of then that was Barry Gardiner MP, Labour Brent North.
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 11:41:08 AM » |
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Can’t believe I just watched it from beginning to end! It seems the overriding conclusion is that the PV industry could cope with the 21p/kWh rate yet not with the EPC rating…………it does seem sensible to have them linked yet at the EPC rating suggested it will cause big issues…….both sides seem to have valid arguments………only time will tell!
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 11:08:35 PM » |
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Oh look: to watch the _UK parliament_ I have to have Miscrosoft Silverlight installed. What scumbags. Which idiot thought that was a good idea? OK, so there is moonlight, but almost no distros distribute it due to not trusting miscrosft not to sue their arses off for patent infringement, and the DRM part being entirely unavailable anyway.
Still, at least it is possible and it does actually work (but only on this machine, not on any arm ones), so it's better than flash, but really, the idea that the way to fix the flash problem was invent another slightly-less-proprietary scheme wrapped in patents and DRM agreements, was very dumb. And in fact MS have now realised that it was an idiotic idea and have kicked the project in the head so parliament will have to find a better way in due course. I wonder if they'll get it right next time.
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2011, 08:54:51 AM » |
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There is a follow-on meeting this afternoon when HM Treasury will be the main witness. Should be worth watching too.
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2011, 08:32:15 PM » |
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Today's meeting doesn't appear to have been videoed. This morning I asked DECC to publish the data that was used to create the graph that Barker used in his meeting with EAC/ECC on Tuesday (I guess most of you saw that). According to DECC the data is here - http://www.decc.gov.uk/assets/decc/11/stats/energy/energy-source/3701-weekly-solar-pv-installation-and-capacity.xlsThis data is sourced from MCS so only covers systems up to 50kW. The graphs are nowhere near those used by Barker. They do not show the large increases in August, September and October that Barker claimed had forced him to issue the emergency consultation. The only big increase is in registrations after the consultation was announced. |
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2011, 10:02:40 PM » |
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I'm not sure, but I suspect that the graph being held up was for the actual capacity registered (by the suppliers, not on the MCs database) in each week, not the number of installations registered on the MCS database.
I believe that most of the 135MW or so of the solar farms completed by the August deadline for those actually filtered through onto the system at the back end of September, which would account for the shape of that graph.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2011, 11:30:48 PM » |
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Ted, that's a really interesting graph. I clicked on the DECC link, but it doesn't exist. Where can I find the graph on the DECC website? It would be interesting to monitor how the change in FITs rate affects the rate of installation, both short term and long term.
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2011, 07:27:28 PM » |
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They brought a new meaning to the term "Greenest Government yet" but there wasn't much made of the significance of C rating requirement, except by installers, that effectively means the end of the scheme. There would be a good correlation between the 8% that have C rating houses or above and those that want to install PV so it might be a bit better than the predicted fall from 500 Mw to 10 Mw per annum.
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