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« on: January 19, 2012, 03:11:47 PM » |
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DECC have confirmed that they have today laid a draft of the new Standard Licence Conditions before Parliament. http://www.decc.gov.uk/en/content/cms/news/fits_jan12upd/fits_jan12upd.aspx21p for installations from 3rd March. Systems installed between now and then will get 43.3p if DECC lose their court case or 21p if they win. |
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 04:13:26 PM » |
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And we will know the answer, when?
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 05:00:21 PM » |
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It's clearly in the government's interest to delay as late as possible - so expect the announcement on the 2nd March. Even if they lose I guess they still get the opportunity to appeal again, which will perpetuate the uncertainty long enough.
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 05:16:52 PM » |
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Any certainty is a little illusory for the present as either House has 40 days in which to vote down the draft in which case it can not be implemented. I imagine this is unlikely though.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 06:20:15 PM » |
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We should still be basing our quotes and contracts on the 21p/kWh Feed in Tariff rate (for <4 kW) but state if the government lost its appeal then it will be 43.3p/kWh if it has an eliglbility of 3rd March or before. Although that date is a Saturday so in reality 1st March for postal applications to FIT supplier.
Any idea when the courts will make a decison either way? This is the most important factor now
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 08:24:10 PM » |
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"And this kids is how we run our country......  " Is it any wonder we are bankrupt with a debt of £3 to £4 trillion and a total country wide debt to GDP ratio of 1000%......  CU CD |
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 09:01:47 PM » |
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The US is in debt, $15 trillion and rising, most of Europe is etc. Who on earth do we owe the money to? If the UK owes the US money and vice versa, why dont they wipe the slate clean? I guess if you scare your citizens into believing they are in debt, maybe they will work harder?
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 09:06:06 PM » |
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Ted thanks. About time there was some "clarity" - though this is very relative!
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 09:10:42 PM » |
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The US is in debt, $15 trillion and rising, most of Europe is etc. Who on earth do we owe the money to? If the UK owes the US money and vice versa, why dont they wipe the slate clean? I guess if you scare your citizens into believing they are in debt, maybe they will work harder?
The vast majority of US debt is held by China and Japan. Germany is the only solvent 1st world country, they sensibly have run a balanced economy and a largely balanced budget since the 2nd world war. I'm not sure how much cross UK/US debt there is, but it is probably close to the noise floor in the scheme of things |
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 01:27:44 AM » |
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The grauniad had a really nice graphics about the intercountry debts a few months back but I can't find it now. UK/US dept was well above the 'noise floor' as I recall. Some country pairs were highly asymetric.
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 07:56:29 AM » |
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Wookey
thanks. I was being a bit provocative. It would be nice to see some real figures. My recollection is hat after the 2nd World War the UK owed its shirt to the US, but I have no idea what the state of play is now. (Ted sorry if this hijacks your thread).
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 09:21:00 AM » |
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A lot of such debt is circular, where one man's debt, is another man's assets, but on a national or international level.
If A owes £20 to B, and B owes £20 to C, who in turn owes £20 to A, then in reality nobody owes nor owns £20.
That said, China has got a lot of US debt, but is dependent on the US for export demand to keep it's growth momentum. Money is a little like energy, it's surprisingly difficult to create or destroy it. Add 10% and you devalue it by 10%, I guess it's where you direct it that really matters.
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