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« on: January 22, 2012, 09:49:32 AM »

from - http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/the-battle-of-boris-island-6292820.html

"The fate of hundreds of thousands of migrating birds and the environment are hanging in the balance as the future of a possible airport on the Thames estuary is argued over by the London Mayor and the Prime Minister

Standing (almost) shoulder to shoulder and looking rather pleased with themselves, these are the two men who are causing havoc in Downing Street and across Whitehall over the controversial "Boris Island" airport – and the Government's entire agenda.

To some, Steve Hilton and Boris Johnson are maverick geniuses-on-bikes, whose free wheeling and free thinking are desperately needed to break the stalemate of the coalition, and think creatively beyond the tight constraints of economic austerity.

But to others, they are a tandem menace, overriding ministers in their own departments and provoking David Cameron and George Osborne into ambitious decisions that are neither sensible nor economically viable.

The Battle for Boris Island, which spilled out into the open last week, illustrates how government policy is being driven by what one source described as a "dangerous axis" of the London Mayor and the PM's strategy chief.

One Whitehall source said: "There is the Quad [Mr Cameron, Mr Osborne, Nick Clegg and Danny Alexander], and then there are Steve and Boris. You couldn't call it a Sextet because you could never get everyone playing the same tune."

Despite the Prime Minister telling local MPs last year that the Thames estuary airport would not go ahead, and the Department for Transport also ruling it out, a consultation document in March on the future of airport capacity will pave the way for the "Boris Island" project. In his autumn statement last November, the Chancellor laid some groundwork by announcing a watering-down of protection of natural habitats in planning decisions.

Construction of the £20bn hub would cause huge damage to the local environment, say opponents, including wrecking the habitat of migrating birds every year and in turn increasing the risk of a plane being hit by bird strike. There is also little to justify the massive economic cost because creating a new hub to the east of the capital would drive business away from Heathrow.

One theory is that the disclosure – revealed in the Boris-friendly Daily Telegraph – was designed to help Mr Johnson's re-election as London Mayor in May with plans being quietly dropped at a later date.

Yet there is serious momentum behind the idea. Besides Mr Johnson, Mr Hilton is a driving force behind the plans. The No10 strategy guru, who despite rumours that his influence is on the wane remains instrumental at the heart of government, has a key ally in Oliver Letwin, Mr Cameron's policy adviser and Cabinet Office minister. Before the plans were leaked to The Telegraph on Wednesday, Mr Letwin was spotted having a "heated" debate in the Members' Lobby in the Commons with Theresa Villiers, the aviation minister who is thought to be opposed to the airport.

As recently as last November, Mrs Villiers wrote a letter to Mark Reckless, whose Rochester and Strood constituency in Kent is among those that would be affected by airport, reassuring him: "The Department for Transport has no plans for a new airport in the Thames estuary, nor any other part of Medway or Kent. We want to get the most out of existing infrastructure in the South-east ... The Government is committed to developing a new policy framework for aviation which supports economic growth while addressing the environmental impacts of flying."

Plans for an airport along the Thames estuary were investigated under the previous government's Aviation White Paper, before it was comprehensively ruled out in 2005.

With Chris Huhne's political career hanging in the balance over the next few weeks over his alleged speeding offence, there are fears that, if he is forced to stand down as Climate Change Secretary, there will be no one to speak up for the green agenda in government.

Mr Hilton – alongside Mr Letwin – is also blamed for pushing through the Government's controversial Health Bill, despite misgivings at the heart of No 10 and among senior Lib Dems. While some of Mr Hilton's more provocative ideas – such as scrapping maternity leave to boost economic growth – have been laughed off, he remains an influence on Mr Cameron: the roots of the PM's attack on "crony capitalism" last week were in Mr Hilton's Good Business public affairs consultancy, founded in 1997.

With Mr Johnson, the influence on Mr Cameron is rather more basic.

As Mr Johnson's biographer, Andrew Gimson, wrote in the Financial Times yesterday: "He [Boris] has made the airport a test of Mr Cameron's and Mr Osborne's virility.

"Are they strong enough to uphold London and the UK's competitiveness, or are they a pair of weaklings who will collude in national decline?"
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2012, 11:08:12 AM »

Anyone remember Maplin Sands? I've got this feeling of deja vu.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2012, 12:13:33 PM »

Anyone remember Maplin Sands? I've got this feeling of deja vu.

In those days, Heathrow etc. were owned by the taxpayer, then became a UK company BAA, which is now is foreign owned.

So perhaps there were competition issues when Maplin was being decided.
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2012, 12:27:59 PM »

I'm generally NOT in favour. The main issue is geopraphy - its the wrong place. Heathrow, to the west of London was a good location - access to the west/north/south, but its now too hemmed in.
Any Thames estuary airport would suffer the same problem - access.

We do need more airport space, but I don't see where it can go. If the govt in the 70's had properly bitten the bullet, we'd have a major airport near Leighton Buzzard in the Vale of Aylesbury - very much the right place for access. But I cannot now see any location big enough and in the right place (west or north of london) to be feasible.

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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2012, 12:43:51 PM »

More? facepalm
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 02:44:21 PM »

More? facepalm

'Fraid so.  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 02:52:27 PM »

Rather sums up the government being "the least green" whistlie
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 02:57:08 PM »

Of course if they keep on putting up airport taxes to dissuade people from flying (which I understand was the idea) then demand may drop, then we wont need to build at all.

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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 04:17:41 PM »

Of course if they keep on putting up airport taxes to dissuade people from flying (which I understand was the idea) then demand may drop, then we wont need to build at all.

Andy

Hasn't made any difference with the amount of motoring, and the taxes on that are extreme!

Why not site an extra airport - if we have to have one - in the Midlands somewhere, adjacent to the HS2?
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 04:29:33 PM »

Has noone notice the stonking great heffalump in the room? - We need to fly a LOT less than we do nowadays, not more........... facepalm
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 09:41:05 PM »

Billt #1

I remember the Maplin sands airport proposal back in the 1970's. Killed off in the Harold Wilson Era.

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 10:15:54 PM »

So Martin you wish us to fly via Disney on the back of a grey pachioderm by the name of Dumbo.

I agree actually Martin I think air travel can be taxed sky high (woops) if it will deter caual use. £12 to Malage is simply ridiculous.

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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2012, 10:53:20 PM »

We do _not_ need more airports. Read this before supporting such a dangerous idea: http://grist.org/climate-change/2011-12-05-the-brutal-logic-of-climate-change/

More high-speed trains is fine (they can run on low-carbon fuels). More planes is not. At some point biofuels for planes may make sense but I don't think we are there yet, and even if we were I don't think there will be enough to go round to support more flying.

You tell me how you are going to reduce the avergae UK carbon footlrint by 90% in 40 years whilst also increasing_flying. It's nonsensical.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2012, 11:43:04 PM »

"you wish us to fly via Disney on the back of a grey pachioderm by the name of Dumbo" - erm well, no...... - if people must go to some dreadful american themed theme park they can go to one in this country, or catch a train and ferry to one in France.......  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2012, 10:38:24 AM »

Reading this from over in NZ it seems crazy that country that is massively in debt and surrounded by others who have a somewhat unsteady currency to be even considering any massive investment in infrastructure at all. I think a few weeks ago someone posted up something about a high speed train link to the midlands, again the costs were massive and while no doubt it would be a good thing for some people surely in times like these any money being spend ( which will only increase the national debt ) should be spent on things that benifit the majority nationwide?
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