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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2012, 10:47:53 AM »

It's a Tory government being tories........... sell everything to their buddies in big business, pocket the brown envelopes, look forward to an earldom and avert their eyes from the damage they are wreaking.......

If they are going to spend heftily to get the economy moving, they could be spending on supergrids, genuine renewables, funding universities to do the essential research to help us head for a sustainable future (etc etc etc), instead they are selling us out to the aviation industry, the nuke industry, the GM and Big Ag companies, the construction industry, the fossil fuel lobby - today they're cutting benefits from some of the nation's neediest, "justifying it"  by saying they have to make the cuts, yet refuse to collect billions in tax owed by Vodafone and big banks, which would fund it all......... roll on the revolution!........ whistlie
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 01:53:26 PM »

I think it's a question of which country is prepared to detach itself from the current economic model of economic growth being everything. Germany has given us a glimpse of the future with its decision to dump nuclear, although I suspect it's a long-term economic decision as much as anything.

Ironically if you create an environmental utopia without pollution or airports, the whole world will want to visit. The free world does not take account of sustainability, yet.
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2012, 03:57:57 PM »

I think it's a question of which country is prepared to detach itself from the current economic model of economic growth being everything. Germany has given us a glimpse of the future with its decision to dump nuclear, although I suspect it's a long-term economic decision as much as anything.

Ironically if you create an environmental utopia without pollution or airports, the whole world will want to visit. The free world does not take account of sustainability, yet.

How are you going to visit if it doesn't have an airport? Huh
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2012, 04:06:23 PM »

"How are you going to visit if it doesn't have an airport?" - a touch of the McEnroes there - "you cannot be serious?" hysteria

People have travelled since the dawn of time (we are issued with feet), air travel has only been prevalent for a few decades - travel to Germany? Last time I went to Frankfurt on business I enjoyed a leisurely ferry and train journey, and stepped off the train refreshed and full of beans to be met by my friend who'd opted to fly, who was visibly frazzled!
It's just a readjustment to use more green modes of transport, and let the journey be an enjoyable part of the holiday!
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2012, 04:08:06 PM »

An awfull lot of countries rely on tourism to a great degree, scaling that down is going to be a tricky problem, and one that would garner almost no popular support. Tourists to some places don't need air travel, but not all.

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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2012, 04:14:21 PM »

Eventually we'll have a nice high speed rail link to h stir stir stir
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2012, 09:34:21 PM »

"How are you going to visit if it doesn't have an airport?" - a touch of the McEnroes there - "you cannot be serious?" hysteria

People have travelled since the dawn of time (we are issued with feet), air travel has only been prevalent for a few decades - travel to Germany? Last time I went to Frankfurt on business I enjoyed a leisurely ferry and train journey, and stepped off the train refreshed and full of beans to be met by my friend who'd opted to fly, who was visibly frazzled!
It's just a readjustment to use more green modes of transport, and let the journey be an enjoyable part of the holiday!

Working in Oslo right now. Flight - 2 hours. Ferry - there aren't any. Train - about 36 hours I think (may only be 24). So. Maybe I should swim facepalm.
As you yourself said - "you cannot be serious". You may live in a bucolic dream world - the rest of us have to get on with making a living
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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2012, 12:05:40 PM »

What is wrong with Manston airport it is already operational.
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