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Author Topic: Ivan's new TDC3 Controller  (Read 2608 times)
Ivan
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« on: August 24, 2007, 02:03:38 PM »

It's warm and sunny, so I thought I'd post a screenshot from the network-interface for my TDC3-ethernet controller. The TDC3 has a novel method for approximating heat gain (you make an assumption for heat loss, and heat not gained to the cylinder - this varies from cylinder to cylinder, for Navitron cylinders, the coil is very large - 1.6m2 surface area, so it will be efficient, but for standard cylinder coils, much of the heat may be sent back to the solar panel). As a guide, you would expect to lose 5-10%. I have entered 20% losses into the onboard calculation (my system has long piperuns, so losses in winter are higher than normal) - but this is overkill - in this weather I would expect losses to be around 10%.

Here's what it looks like. The 'W' reading is the current heat being gained (whilst the pump is running). The 'kWh' reading is the energy-gain to date (it's only be operating for a few days so far - hence low reading!).

Array: 30 tubes 70mm single-walled
Tank: 260litre vented cylinder
Piperun: 16m each way 15mm
Weather: hot and sunny, 24August07, 2pm
Current number of people staying in house (I have no idea of water drawoff): 6





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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2007, 02:18:03 PM »

Ivan,

"warm and sunny"   Huh

London and the south east has not seen sun for over a week.  Angry

The rain only stopped this morning.


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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2007, 04:44:41 PM »

Ivan, List

At last, after a week with no sun, it's finally come out at 16:40. 

Just in time for the weekend.   Smiley

Outlet temperature from panel has shot up to 23 C. That's the hottest its been all week Whoo -hoo



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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2007, 02:31:38 PM »

Ivan, is there a chance that we can upgrade our old TDC's? I always like a new gadget to play with!!!

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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2007, 10:50:34 PM »

I'll check - I don't see any reason why it could not be retro-fitted to existing TDC3s.

If you look on the pcb, there are a couple of ports, which are used for factory-programing etc. On the ethernet version, there is a small PCB which connects via this port. There is also a ethernet socket assembly, which mounts in the back to allow ethernet cable to be attached via a hole in side of controller - an easy DIY mod.

I'll check with the factory that they can sell it as an upgrade and check the price.


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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2007, 09:59:51 PM »

Excellent thanks. Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2007, 01:01:23 AM »

The answer is vaguely 'no' - first problem is the hole you'd need in the case where the ethernet connection goes - I assume this would be no problem in reality. The second is that the transformer needs to be changed. I think the ethernet version draws more power than the standard transformer can cope with. The manufacturer is going to look into alternatives for retro-converting TDC3s to ethernet, so all hope is not lost....
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2007, 04:52:09 PM »

Hi Ivan

I would also be interested in retro upgrading my TDC3, so lets hope you can find a solution.

Cheers

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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2007, 08:33:48 PM »

Hi all
the usb tdc3  seems to use the same conections and hs no special hole you just use one of the knock outs and wold imagine that the transformers are the same. it has the same problem wih data logging so waiting for the new program.

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