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« Reply #240 on: June 30, 2009, 03:55:21 PM » |
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Tony Do you have an opinion on putting relays and timers into a washing machine? It occurs that the vibration etc may be a problem? laters
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« Reply #241 on: June 30, 2009, 04:02:54 PM » |
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With the relay being the plug in type,i might wrap a ty rap around it and the base to prevent it wiggling loose.
ring crimps for all connections, maybe in a ip box in case it goes pete tong.
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« Reply #242 on: June 30, 2009, 05:35:55 PM » |
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good idea.
i think i need to investigate my machine a bit more. i ran it with the lid off and connected to hot to time it today, it takes about 5-6 minutes to finish filling (it stops about 6-8 times)
however it seemed to use the opposite rubber hose than i thought for most of the filling and rinsing, and then uses both near the end.
i think i need to take the lid off the draw to see where the water goes
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« Reply #243 on: June 30, 2009, 07:31:16 PM » |
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that's it... get the back off it...
Just a thought, could the whole caboodle be switched when the cylinder gets up to a desired temp, so the machine would need to be switched on by a stat on the cylinder, would ensure that your post work shower gets the first dibs on the hot water.
Think the machine would need to be an older mechanical type, so that it will get up and go when it gets power.... hmmm
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« Reply #244 on: June 30, 2009, 09:40:32 PM » |
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rs sell timer modules, the same size as a mcb.
they have selectable times from 1 sec to 15 hours simply by turning little screw potentiometers on the front, seconds, hours, multiply by, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0
We have used them on a number of panels, that are activating a pump via a momentary push switch, 230v or volt free input.
I dont have my catalogues handy at the moment and i find rs on line a pain.
i think they cost from 30-100 quid depending on the spec of the unit.
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« Reply #245 on: June 30, 2009, 10:32:51 PM » |
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How about this for an idea. If this has already been discussed then I apologise in advance. Instead of using an electric heater element replace with a hot water coil similar to a solar coil. Used hot water is sent back to the tank. The advantage is that the circuit used to turn the element on now just turns on a pump. All the controls work the same and no problem with timers or rinsing in cold water. The washing machine works as normal. The only issues are: Can the element be replaced by a heating coil? Will the coil provide enough heat? It might take a bit longer (  ) to heat the water? If one could fit the heating element and heating coil in then a simple circuit could be used to switch back to the heating element if no hot water is available. Any thoughts….
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« Reply #246 on: July 01, 2009, 12:01:50 AM » |
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rs sell timer modules, the same size as a mcb.
they have selectable times from 1 sec to 15 hours simply by turning little screw potentiometers on the front, seconds, hours, multiply by, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0
We have used them on a number of panels, that are activating a pump via a momentary push switch, 230v or volt free input.
I dont have my catalogues handy at the moment and i find rs on line a pain.
i think they cost from 30-100 quid depending on the spec of the unit.
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tony
30 quid.... how much.... I guess that would be not so bad if they were DPDT because then you could do away with the relay. laters
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« Reply #247 on: July 01, 2009, 07:05:14 AM » |
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bmike, interesting, i don't know how feasible it is but i'm going with the hot supply at the moment
tony, thanks for the suggestion but i'm trying to keep this cheap
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« Reply #248 on: July 01, 2009, 11:30:48 AM » |
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Seems like someone could make a PCB for this with a little timer circuit and relays on with connection for solenoids and a switch (included in kit?). Could be quite cheap and save everyone having to source all the bits separately. Navitron - you listening?
Another option for the genuinely stingy is to disable the heater coil so it can't come on. (ours is dead, which is ideal).
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« Reply #250 on: July 01, 2009, 07:22:39 PM » |
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the timer from rs will come with a warranty, should be easier to connect up, and keep remote components to a minimum
tony
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« Reply #252 on: July 02, 2009, 12:46:00 AM » |
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I've pciked those up for a couple of quid a time on ebay before :-)
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« Reply #254 on: July 02, 2009, 09:09:33 AM » |
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i guess it still needs to be close to the hot supply otherwise it'll get filled with all the cold water in the pipework
my washing machine is right next to the kitchen sink so i can prime the hot water pipework easily
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