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« on: March 04, 2008, 02:55:00 PM » |
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???can you use ground nut oil as a base for bio diesel  thanks jason |
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Ivan
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 03:24:30 PM » |
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Yes, you can. I don't know what the gel point would be (freezing point). For example, palm oil biodiesel isn't as suitable for cold weather use.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 03:41:12 PM » |
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Thanks Ivan just wanted to check before picking some up  |
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Ivan
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2008, 09:19:14 PM » |
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have you got a good price on new stuff? or is this Waste Ground Nut Oil (ie free)?
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2008, 09:21:10 PM » |
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Sorry ivan it is used and feeeeeeeee!!!!!  |
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Ivan
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2008, 09:28:41 PM » |
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Have you had a look at it -is it liquid?
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2008, 09:33:49 PM » |
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Hi Ivan
it was in a semi clear drum and looked nothing like frotters so think it was liquid. if not still inspired and willing to learn from the master.
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Ivan
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2008, 09:36:44 PM » |
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I've been making some batches recently with some very dodgy looking stuff. Looks like they've chucked around 10litres of lard into each drum of veg oil, as the bottom half is really thick and full of solid lardy bits. So my batches are probably 50% lard. Even so, the biodiesel that it produces is low viscosity, crystal clear and a jam jar on the wall outside shows me that it starts to gel at around minus 4C - so the process certainly improves it no end. If it's runny to start with, I don't imagine you can go wrong.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2008, 09:44:22 PM » |
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 really pleased to see that the system is working. how many batches have you made ? cant wait to have a go. did i mention Southampton is on for the 17th.
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Ivan
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2008, 10:35:48 PM » |
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PM sent
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2008, 01:44:01 AM » |
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Sorry ivan it is used and feeeeeeeee!!!!! Jason, Ivan, List, Where (like as in who uses ) does ground nut come from? I wonder if there are other sources of any suitable oil that can be collected for use as WVO that we overlook when asking local pubs etc? |
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2008, 07:22:26 AM » |
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In Kerry at the moment I'm plagued by a company called "Fryrite". They have a deliver and collect system and charge about the same as the regular oil wholesalers.
No pub/chippie is too small. It's a real pain in the bum!
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It's not what you make, it's what you use that counts!
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2008, 08:29:54 AM » |
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Hi Bob and list
every where we go we ask children's play zones bowling allies they all do fried food some have had it stacked up for months and don't know what to do with it.
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Ian
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2008, 05:04:59 PM » |
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Bob, I think this is something that we are all going to have to get used to.
Apparently, in the States, some of the oil is "leased" to end users (restaurants, bars, etc) but they never own the oil. A rebate is provided to the end user for all the oil returned. Gradually, the terms and conditions for using the oil are being hardened. I have heard, but cannot confirm, that some oil contracts now in UK are on the basis of "leased" oil.
Living in the S Manchester area, nearly every village has a chippy and towns have a couple of handfuls of them. Despite what should be a glut of used oil, it is getting much harder to find with most chippies claiming that the supplier takes it back.
Over the winter season I could use about 4000 litres of WVO in my Listeroid CHP. As it is, over the year, I can only get about 1500 - 2000 litres of the good golden liquid stuff and maybe 1000 Kg of the solid stuff. It used to be easy but it is occupying more and more of my time to collect and process it. I don't think it is going to get easier.
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Ian
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Ian
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2008, 05:22:22 PM » |
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By the way Jason - I have yet to come across a single eatery using ground nut oil (peanut oil) and having waste oil to dispose of. Some posh Chinese take aways and restaurants use peanut oil because it has a very high smoke temperature and tends to be less "oily" in mouthfeel. But the used oils end up in the sauces and never go to waste. (Indian restaurants and takeaways tend to do the same thing but use any vegetable oil they can find cheapest - which is usually canola and GM soya).
Most pubs and restaurants use liquid "vegetable oil" which is usually soya or canola or a mixture of both. You may find sunflower and corn oils too but they are less likely. The majority tends to be Soya from GM crops (so when the restaurant says they are not aware of using any GM materials they have not looked too hard.....).
Chippies tend to use partially hydrogenated oils. Palm is a favourite. This is supplied in solid blocks and once used sets solid at below about 15 - 30 degrees C depending upon how heavily it has been abused in the cooking process.
Some restaurants claim to use "long life oil" and NEVER change the oil (just top it up). I would not want to eat their food....
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Ian
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