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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2008, 08:00:36 PM » |
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Dimensions nicked from Stovax websitefor the G3 List, Width 455, Height 796, Depth 505.
A Guesstimate for the fireplace aperture after removal of the fireback from my end will be width 600, Height 700, Depth 325.
You might be able to measure the depth over the top of the fireback roughly, as well as the width the height to the throat should be fairly easy to measure as you'll be able to feel it under the tasteful brick cladding.
On that basis there is noway you'll be able to inset this stove with regards height, never mind the lack of depth to accomodate the top mounted flue.
However you could run the flue off the top and breach the chimney higher up the wall, with an offset bend with inspection (sweeping Cover), butthat won't look so neat and tidyas a rear mounted flue pipe.
I still think you're going to have to extend the hearth....
Nice looking stove by the way I think the demographics of this forum must tend towards the slightly more affluent, just by looking at that stove I know I couldn't afford it.
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2008, 08:41:05 PM » |
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Cheers all! ..soothing my brow much anguish ahead I anticipate though! Sleepy, not rich or affluent (promise) simply that my uncle used to sell Jetmasters in the 70's & early 80's so have always erred towards fires, yes it looks nice but was bloody cheap via auction on ebay last summer & an impulse buy (after consultation with the good lady) ...it was killing me that the open fire was so inefficient, and our main heat source having "burgered" the oil central heating by turning rads off 4 summers ago & a bionic (rebuilt) oil system every year. plus it matches my nice (much coveted) red leather chairs!  .. anywhere I can get a pictoral idea of your idea for the breach etc? I like the idea especially if it makes sweeping easier & can be hidden by some wall art? ..without costing too much (the breach idea as well as the art) |
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2008, 09:59:35 PM » |
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took me a while to find anything pictorial, no photos of anything but the diagram on this page shows what I mean.... http://www.rite-vent.co.uk/residential-flues/single-wall/prima-single-wall/system-design/With the sweeping hatch on the 30 deg bend towards the wall.... are you intending to line the chimney? If so you could always do the interior connections whilst the fireplace is opened out, but be prepared to get sore arms working in a constricted space with soot raining down on your face! If not the just poking a straight bit of flue pipe in on a 30 deg angle through the depth of the chimney wall might solve your problems. However you did say it was a concrete chimney, and I bet if it is then it is steel lined, so not only will you have to break through the blockwork (or even worse pre-cast) to achieve this but the liner as well.... Not sure how you'll hang artwork on it  I must sound like a right doomsayer..... I do enjoy fitting stoves honest, they're a challenge.... I've only done six this year and every one was a Heinz, but the end results are always pleasing. The best one I reckon is the one in our living room, I was too mean to buy any stove pipe so I made some out of flattened bean cans and rivet's expecting it to degrade really quickly, its still going strong 14 months later with daily use. I really must change it as I have plenty of offcuts of stove pipe now....  |
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2008, 07:50:33 AM » |
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Wow Sleepy that's very clear now, thanks for searching that out very good reading to be had there!
yes artwork would be a bit askew, but if thats the way it ends up having to go then so be it!
Having a shocking memory & it being a while since I wAS up on the roof peering down the chimney I can't exactly remember if it was lined (should be) ..as I was doing a "Rod Hull" (rip)at the time, in theory as it's a 1970's house yes it should BUT if in line with other awful bodges that have plagued us since moving in I don't think its lined at all!
(will start removing decorative frontage today so keep looking in for progress / query pictures)
Thanks all for your input so far, keep it coming, ...I like the idea of an etheral internet project culminatiting in a useable room & source of flaming, glowing, joy to spur me onto other "gotta do" bits!
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2008, 04:53:14 PM » |
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here we go, no cruddy ornamental brickwork!
what now? anyone see a "danger will robinson" that needs attention!?
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2008, 04:59:54 PM » |
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2008, 05:02:13 PM » |
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now then, all things taken into consideration bearing in mind the original pic of the other side of the chimbley's construction in t'other room hould I be thinking about sticking in (making arrangements for a fire on the other side or is that not advisable?
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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2008, 05:15:40 PM » |
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is there room in this hearth set up to stick it closer to the wall maybe? (as in further to the left)
..or carry on & enlarge the original area?
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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2008, 06:09:08 PM » |
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now then, all things taken into consideration bearing in mind the original pic of the other side of the chimbley's construction in t'other room hould I be thinking about sticking in (making arrangements for a fire on the other side or is that not advisable?
Have you got two chimney pots then? its not a shared chimney between the two fireplaces? The fireback can come out, if you get it out in one piece you could proberbly sell it. However if you get it out in one piece I'll post you a mars bar. Too much render from the sorround and plaster yet to see where the throat lintel is, but I would guess at being just above the top line of the first course of horizontal bricks above the arch. I dont think you'll have much scope for shifting over to the left. More demolition work to be done yet before you need to do any real thinking..... |
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2008, 06:52:05 PM » |
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cheers again!  ..guess I'll get primed for a fresh early morning assault time to find the big hammer or fire up the stihl It's a single pot but was wondering if poss to wang 2 lots of liner in & sort the chimney pot (none as yet) at the same time to sort out the other room |
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« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2008, 08:24:59 PM » |
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I do like an SDS chisel for those sorts of jobs....
I just queried the Chimney thing as if its shared then there is a potential for CO2 leakage back into the other room... if however it was two pots and one has been removed and the chimney capped at the top (which is possible as whoever bricked up the fireplace in the first photo didn't fit a vent to allow the chimney to breathe) then you can work on the other room idependent of this project.
I like this, its like virtual work, I dont have to get messy doing it but I get to see how its coming on... I ought to post photos of the fireplace I'm working on this week!
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« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2008, 11:16:17 PM » |
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but that cement's got asbestos in it, so try not to make any mess whilst you merrily chisel away. Maybe damp it down regularly whilst you're doing it and wear a mask.
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« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2008, 12:14:58 PM » |
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lintel exposed
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« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2008, 12:17:37 PM » |
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cracking on
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« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2008, 12:19:21 PM » |
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I'd have thought ther'd be loads of rubble trouble by now but that back appears to be "so solid"
..surely not an ante-chamber??
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