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SUNBREW
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« on: August 10, 2008, 08:18:58 PM »

Does anyone know what this is chemically please ?
I notice that the fuel pod 2 uses it as a recommended alternatine to methoxide
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2008, 10:31:28 PM »

On the "Safety" page, under "Chemicals" they mention " Sodium methylate",
which is another name for " Sodium methoxide".

Quite why they make this non-distinction is beyond me.

The data reads more like that of engineers than chemists, so perhaps the "Chemical info" is bought-in,
while they concentrate their skills on manufacturing?
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2008, 05:28:19 PM »

I have since discovered that the difference is that sodium methylate is anhydrous wheras dissolving hydroxide in methanol releases 18 g water for each 40g hydroxide dissolved.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2008, 10:39:13 PM »

Interesting.So presumably that means lower soap production and higher conversion efficiency?
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2008, 03:28:24 PM »

Lower soap would be good.
When i get the time i wil try a coulple of small test batches.
A with methoxide
B try drying the methoxide with molecular sieve first.
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2008, 04:37:03 PM »

Maybe a dessicant would work? A lot cheaper than molecular sieves, and I'm not sure a molecular sieve will separate out water and methoxide - usually they're used for separating out heavy organic molecules (proteins, long chains etc) from light inorganic molecules.
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2008, 04:38:45 PM »

like petrol is used to break the celulose chains and release the cocane?
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2008, 11:47:15 PM »

Can't tell you Amy - I've never processed cocaine.

I used to use molecular sieves daily for about 8years, to separate antibodies from lysine-sequestered luminescent tracer, though. They're not very exciting, require constant whetting or they crack and the stuff runs through the cracks and you have to start all over again.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2008, 07:53:20 AM »

lysine luminescent sounds like the colour seen in cooked rice when its been left in the fridge too long, (not my fridge, i hasten to add) and its deadly poisonous.
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