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« on: September 02, 2008, 11:50:55 AM » |
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yep,
there are going to fit a 6KW ropatec double vertical wind rotor.
10.6m tall, similar to a street lamp..
the model is quiet and starts up at wind speed of 2m/s(4.5mph)
now the site is surrounded by trees, its in a dip, as you drive slightly down hill from the main road, its bordered by a industrial unit on 1 side.
I wonder if they have done a survey?
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2008, 11:59:02 AM » |
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probably a dead ringer for the turbines planned for one of their Sheffield stores - surprise, surprise, the council said "yes, you can extend your store if you generate 10% of your power renewably" - in the position mooted the turbines don't have a snowball's chance in hell of producing it, but can you see any town council having the cojones to say to Tesco in three years time "they haven't done what it said on the tin - take it down?"  It's a fudge - the turbine suppliers will tell the architects that they'll fulfill a certain percentage, all the government "bodies", agencies and initiatives will throw money at the company involved, everyone will award themselves "green brownie points", windpower will be further discredited, crooked entrepreneurs will float their chocolate teapot companies, and disappear for the horizon with several million squid in their back pockets........business as usual really!  |
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2008, 12:32:33 PM » |
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renewablejohn
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2008, 01:07:45 PM » |
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Rhys
I would be more impressed if the sainsbury green energy powered the refrigeration units on site rather than the tills.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2008, 01:08:57 PM » |
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Rhys
I would be more impressed if the sainsbury green energy powered the refrigeration units on site rather than the tills.
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2008, 06:46:22 PM » |
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Yeah I cant imagine the percentage power consumption of the tills is very significant  |
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 05:37:01 AM » |
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It doesn't say that it only powers the tills ... but I expect you are right  |
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mallettron
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2008, 12:01:11 PM » |
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probably a dead ringer for the turbines planned for one of their Sheffield stores - surprise, surprise, the council said "yes, you can extend your store if you generate 10% of your power renewably" - in the position mooted the turbines don't have a snowball's chance in hell of producing it, but can you see any town council having the cojones to say to Tesco in three years time "they haven't done what it said on the tin - take it down?" It's a fudge - the turbine suppliers will tell the architects that they'll fulfill a certain percentage, all the government "bodies", agencies and initiatives will throw money at the company involved, everyone will award themselves "green brownie points", windpower will be further discredited, crooked entrepreneurs will float their chocolate teapot companies, and disappear for the horizon with several million squid in their back pockets........business as usual really! The ones in Sheffield will be 3 x 15kw on 25m masts and may just give 10% saving on the new extension but not on the whole store. I think they have pulled the woll over the councils eyes with this. the council need a proper renewable expert to vet all planning applications to make sure they arnt telling porkies and that everything is done to reduce energy before they start with renewables Im going to take some photos when they are erected Ronnie Sheffield |
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2008, 12:50:37 PM » |
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Tesco have been claiming major (60%) reductions in the amount of energy used in their newest stores: http://www.tescoplc.com/plc/media/pr/pr2007/2007-01-18/I'd like to see the numbers. |
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2008, 01:59:13 PM » |
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Mallettron I wish I could pull the wool over the planners eyes  on my project to replace an asbestos roof with a solar tube mass array. Apparently I will need to do an environmental impact assessment on the potential glare of the solar tubes.  |
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2008, 04:35:27 PM » |
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that's pathetic. They really don't want you to do anything to reduce carbon emissions do they. Tell them if the tubes provided glare they wouldn't be any good as solar absorbers. Next thing you know, they'll be asking you to do an environmental impact assessment to check the effects of reduced heating in the local environment if you should increase your loft insulation - get in touch with your MP.
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2008, 06:41:49 PM » |
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Mallettron I wish I could pull the wool over the planners eyes on my project to replace an asbestos roof with a solar tube mass array. Apparently I will need to do an environmental impact assessment on the potential glare of the solar tubes. Is your local Planning department staffed solely by a$$ wholes, or, have you throroughly pi$$ed them off over the years? Seems like everything you want to do is stymied |
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2008, 07:52:46 PM » |
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" Is your local Planning department staffed solely by a$$ wholes" Sorry, but that is causing me to wonder if them might be only Half A$$ed |
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mallettron
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2008, 03:59:41 PM » |
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don't get me started on them, from putting 12 more floors on a high rise block of flats to 3 Tesco stores on the same road in 3 miles. Its a wonder that they let any renewable projects through ( see the council website about Fox House Toilets, he he he, re the panels) you just need to know how to get round things
I must say they know nothing about renewables and are easily led by developers and they they have to report to the most gullable of them all COUNCILORS who tend to rubber stamp things
In the defence of the council (I work for them) certain sections do try, we have an energy unit who pulled their hair out when one of the depots installed air conditioning units, my office has 3 even though we have windows on 2 sides of our office. Its fun arguing with staff who close the windows when its sunny and hot and switch the conditioners on instead of opening the windows and the door and lowering the blinds... and the same section have installed solar powered school flashers and some solar powered signs, plus a lot of led signs lights and bollards (mainly for the time between maintenance) + we have the second set of solar panels here for the next set of toilets (Ive been keeping a record of energy generated - grid tied)
Back to Tesco, I'm sure there is a lot they could do at their stores to reduce energy before trying to pull the wool over everyones eyes
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2008, 08:59:22 AM » |
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I could understand the problem If I had a track record with these planners but is was a preliminary meeting I had arranged just to get a feel of the planners attitude towards renewables. I came out of the meeting wishing that I had not bothered to consult just hit them with a planning application and go to appeal.
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