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imagedude
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« on: September 12, 2006, 10:18:03 PM »

I saw a child's toy that uses a small solar panel to make hydrogen. The hydrogen is used to power a toy car. Is there anything similar but on a larger scale for adults?

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http://www.i4u.com/article5953.html
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2006, 10:25:12 AM »

Check out the Highlands and Islands website  http://www.hie.co.uk/Default.aspx.LocID-0finewkss.RefLocID-0fihiesv500b00d.htm?sksearchtext=hydrogen
A company on the island of Unst has been developing a renewable hydrogen project based around wind turbines.

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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2006, 07:33:34 PM »

My money on The Technology That Will Save The World is some form of genetically engineered bacteria that will create hydrogen directly from sunlight.

Craig Venter, the guy who setup the privately funded human genome sequencing project a few years ago, is currently involved in a research institute called, modestly, The J Craig Venter Institute.  One of their aims is to engineer bacteria to generate hyrdrogen from sunlight.  (See the "biological energy" group at the bottom of this page).

But that would have a strange knock-on effect: breweries would become as massive as oil companies currently are!
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2006, 07:57:07 PM »

I do worry about the sort of argument that hopes there is some wonder product that will get us back to the good old days where we can squander energy with impunity. It is interesting to see the efficiencies of photovoltaic and compare it with plants and solar hot water, I would love to see the same sort of technological leap, similar to blue leds, where science said it couldn't be done and then one guy sorts it out in 18 month's or so. fantastic! But it is very easy to get washed along with the overall enthusiam for the idea.
The real issue is how we can reduce the heat we produce, or to paraphrase, the energy we consume and that will be a problem however the energy is consumed.
Realistically, our expectation of lifestyle must change markedly, and the lot of our children will be even more abstemious. I travelled over 250 miles today in a car to an electrical show in Coventry and spent an hour in a traffic jam on the way back. My only defence is I went with a friend but such a cavalier attitude to distance really isn't viable for too much longer. If we combine a reduction in usage with some of the truly marvellous ways we have of acknowledging our understanding of the phyical processes around us then we genuinely might build a society that has a future.

That said, as Mr Drury sang, to those of a certain age. 'There ain't half been some clever bastards!'   Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2006, 08:09:00 PM »

Yes, I completely agree.  Clean energy production is only half the problem.  We also have to consume energy in more efficient ways.

Whilst I think it's very unlikely that we will ever get to the position where energy is so cheap that we can waste it without worry, I would suggest that it is conceivable.  For example, nuclear fusion could deliver huge quantities of energy with very little effect on the environment.

Although... I guess that if we do have "surplus energy" then we should expend that energy capturing carbon out of the atmosphere rather than wasting it.
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