sure we need information....but

[billi]

How we did grow up ?

sex pistols ? Nirvana? Satre ? Camus ?

Befor reading "How to grow a tomato" book , it was essential to come to that boring/intresting point i think

So any ideas for the 20-30 year olds ... like chatcher in the rye

Hesse ....Der Steppenwolf

Camus -Camus Le Pest. English -

Books that give advice are ok !
But do we need advice when we are 25 years old  ?

 Anyhow Punk not dead 


Billi

[martin]

Noddy, Muffin the Mule (before it became a crime), The Eagle, Biggles, Just William, Kipling (-tell me my dear, do you like Kipling? - "dunno, never Kippled!"), Conan Doyle, Orwell, John Wyndham, Rachel Carson, Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, Jack Kerouac, William Burroughs, The Beatles. ........... punk? - trod in some once!
(and ten billion I've left out)

[billi]

Nice to have young onces and nice to be young....

Good times for alltime..res


I guess its all the same again for new parents ....

Any advice please .... he doesnot like the soccer ball ... (should i change nappies or the ball)

My brother from Germany hopes he (Son Finn) will say Auto  as his first word...  i told my brother it will be Electric before Auto 

Anyhow   between 20-30 years we need assistance

Billi

[martin]

gotta be Winnie ther Pooh! (english book, not yankee film)

[billi]

Winnie the Pooh  good one  like that one 

[billi]

After all ....lots of talents and genius around ... and my respect to the fact they managed to bring it to paper  be it in colour in words or in lyrics ... respect ....

But sometimes i wounder if not  too much input does damage the own brain 

or other way spoken ... difficult to define the own way ...

Billi

[sleepybubble]

tin tin

[lightfoot]

Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn, The Jungle Book, Cheech & Chong 


Lightfoot.

[Ivan]

I wouldn't recomend Catcher in the Rye. I read it at school when I was about 15 (American exchange teacher who wanted us all to read it). Much later, I read that it was banned in America, as it is bizarrely linked to a large number of teenage suicides - apparently it triggers something, although there's nothing suicidal about the book.

[MR GUS]

A PRAYER FOR OWEN MEANY (BOOK) ..JOHN Irving
books about the 1st world war (trenches, waste)
Terry Pratchett
Sacred Games ..Gerald Jacobs
Dougal (yes that dougal) ..Eric Thompson
Somme ..Lyn Macdonald
Museums, cookbooks, sport, fishing, travel, city culture.
A good slap & a part time job with older people from a young age.
bedtime stories (most nights)
Animals
Wine at the table from an early age.
Holidays in your own country
A good sleeping bag!
spending within your means (no overdraft)

[wookey]

I tried reading catcher in the rye as it was supposed to be a seminal book, but I just got bored and never finished it. No idea what the big deal was upposed to be.

Good books: James and the Giant Peach, Stig of the Dump, Black Beauty, Born Free, everything by Stephen Donaldson, Neuromancer, Cryptonomican, Stand on Zanzibar, Guns Germs and Steel.

(I have no idea what billi's original question was actually about) Hope this is on topic :-)

[billi]

(I have no idea what billi's original question was actually about) Hope this is on topic :-)

I have a small idea what billi's original question was actually about 

Being now a bid older then  30 or 40      i sometimes just remember the age arround 20 and the struggle to find a truth  , so i didnot read books like "growing organic  veggies " (or so) it took a few years to find out there is no A Truth  to be able to do things even they do not have any sense ....(didnot mean the veggies)

so i found a few books quite good like The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus , heavy stuff

Rock and roll ; Punk , and if nothing helped then ACDC

Its a long way to the top.....

Billi

[Amy]

Wind whistling through window frames, oil lamps, home baked bread, rabbits and pidgeons hanging under the stairs,  rupert bear, listen with mother, radio caroline, hunting, sailing,  fishing, shooting, .......then it all started to change, ............nastiness, cruelty, beatings, humiliation, (step dad from hell)..........boarding school, work, weekends spent working, cleaning cars, boat, front drive, shoes, fetch coal, empty ashes, split logs, more cleaning, feeding sheep cattle, open spud sheds, close sheds, check sheep cattle turkeys,more turkeys, cleaning cars shoes, housework. Continual beatings and mental cruelty.  (Thank you john, rot in hell.) shooting hunting fishing water skiing sailing diving
Hated school and exams, spent all my time at neighbours learning to render, plaster, lay bricks, woodwork, weld, motorbikes, more bikes, left school, s*x, s*x, more s*x, work and work, too much drink and fags, left home, S*X BOOZE WORK.

What did i learn, ....hard work ethics, dont spend what you dont have and dont buy what you dont need.
Dont take cr*p, dont worry about the things you cant change, have the strength and dignity to walk away, have compassion for the less fortunate cos it could be you one day.

Abba, Eagles, dire straits, queen, who, bee gees, genisis, dusty, tom jones, sat night fever, jonny walker, double diamond, watneys, bsa, yamaha, landrover, tractors.

[Amy]

opps, thought i was in therapy there, .......

erm, books, ......so many once i learned to read, wind in willows, back of cornflakes packet and any thing else i could read just to escape.
Even all step dads "men mags"  i learned all about fast cars, trains boats planes and fine wine, not to mention readers letters, fashion (or lack of it) 

Later it was anything to do with knowledge, whether it was politics, war, history, natural history, engineering, fashion, sport, science, humanities, arts