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« on: May 28, 2009, 11:38:39 AM »

120 Tubes currently heating my pool & about to supply my DHW. Smiley


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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2009, 11:39:59 AM »

And a view from a bit further back


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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2009, 12:10:30 PM »

The angle looks to be about right for summer use, about 15 degrees below latitude,  but for winter water heating  they are going to loose quite a bit. 
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2009, 02:01:16 PM »

The angle looks to be about right for summer use, about 15 degrees below latitude,  but for winter water heating  they are going to loose quite a bit. 

I know - we are around 45 degrees north (near Bordeaux), but just about every roof round here has the same pitch & without messing around a lot, simply bolting some 6 by 2 (to which the panels are screwed) to the roof structure under the tiles, was by far the easiest mounting option.

I bought a job lot of 10 20 tube panels on flea bay for £1,500 & the other 4 panels, I am either going to put on the house roof (same angle), or mount against the wall under the current setup at 90 degrees to the midday winter sun.  Hopefully 200 tubes should give us all year round DHW - My main problem, i suspect, is that as I will have over 40M of pipe run to the thermal store in the house, which you can see on the right of the 1st picture, the thermal losses will be a significant factor.

The underground pipe run is already in place (15mm tube enclosed in 9mm armaflex, inside 35mm bore 19mm wall ordinary insulation, inside a 90mm drain pipe), I just have to change the current immersion heater for a thermal store & away we go.

In the summer, I will have way too much heat, which I can dump in the swimming pool & in the winter, even on the shortest days, I hope 200 tubes should be enough to give us (2 adults) enough hot water.
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2009, 02:55:11 PM »

An alternative layout would be to have a good big buffer tank near the panels and then just transfer heat once or twice each day to the house.   I winter the pump would probably not run constantly and each time there would be a lot of tepid water in the pipes.   
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2009, 03:43:37 PM »

An alternative layout would be to have a good big buffer tank near the panels and then just transfer heat once or twice each day to the house.   

Good idea, I have a 1000 litre IBC which I could put into a box made of 100mm foil backed insulation inside the shed with a 25 metre coil of 10mm tube as a heat exchanger.  Last winter, I used this IBC uninsulated to keep the shed frost free for the missuses tender plants whilst we went to Spain. 

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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2009, 08:03:48 AM »

Welcome neighbour!  I am near Chalais, not long before my systems up and running too!  Good look!

Steve
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2x20tube47mm panels with TDC3 & 2x 200l Tanks; 14kw Ground Source Heat pump for UFH.   12 x 20tube 58mm panels heating a 12m by 6m pool and the ground loop for the heat pump. ;-)  And also 15 SQM of Black Plastic Mat type pool heater with 100w pump, heating 2 x 3m by 6m pools for holiday homes.
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2009, 12:00:27 AM »

I felt those photos were in dire need of a bit of panorama-ing, so I've stiched them up in Hugin. Slightly wonky horizon but you get the general idea:



enjoy (hugin is very cool)
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