Farho "wall radiators"

[MR GUS]

 Thanks to my free e-tickets for the peterborough show ..which was heavily inundated with lots of flatplate & vac tube salesman & dormant tubes with salespeople who couldnt actually tell me about their product (yes they had business cards) eg "firebird"

 & kids on a stand who didn't know what the base material was that they were trying to flog as  superthin underfloorheating insulation instead of digging up floors & celotexing it..

 No-one wanted to give me even a base price on a rack of tubes, they'd simply "move on" into another area.
The most convincing sales guy was an american who was pushing 70mm tubes, based on tests in OXFORD, this gave rise over a period of a few minutes of one size fits all, same tube size different qty.
hmm.
couldnt help thinking a small working NAVI-shower set up (not the festival beast) just outside the glass doors of the exhibition hall would have been the only actual working demo proving it's worth & costs ...if there.

Onto the title of this thread though
has anyone heard of Farho ? they're a spanish company with various models, rads are specced & built in terms of room size & insulation rather than off the shelf b&q idea, wireless (if you want so you can text to turn it on or down if the kids are abusing it)!  they utilise an owl monitor so you can see real time the additional load etc with the purchase of their product.
Not cheap, but was pumping out nice radiant  heat with force through "stacks" ..they're electric & constructed from aluminium, the claim is 25% more efficient than a typical electric oil rad, which is fine but I don't know how inneficient that is to base anything else on.
The New Aluminium marley guttering was very nice too! ...available in any colour (powder coated) much nicer than uvebeenpvc'ed

[MR GUS]

Technical Information

The radiator fluid is heated through a resistance inside the radiator bringing the temperature of the fluid to 80ºC. Based on tests done to calculate the curve above, it will take around 50 minutes of electrical consumption for the 11 fin radiator to reach the target temperature of 80oC. Once the fluid inside the radiator is up to 80º C and taking into account the special technical characteristics of the aluminium and the compliance testing, the radiator will have an approximate output of 150 Kcal/hour, 627 kJul/hour or 174.7 w/hour of heat per 110w capacity fin.  This means high heat output but low energy consumption.

This heating output capacity was calculated in accordance with EU Standard Norma UNE 9.015-83 by the AENOR, a Standards Authority based in Spain. In the case that a system or fluid is only able to perform a 50ºC thermal jump, the heat output would be reduced considerably.
 
CH-XP Plus Radiator
MODEL POWER (W) HEIGHT (MM) WIDTH (MM) DEPTH (mm) R.R.P. £
XP PLUS-3
 330 590 370 95 £337
XP PLUS-5 550 590 530 95 £396
XP PLUS-7 770 590 690 95 £455
XP PLUS-9 990 590 850 95 £514
XP PLUS-11 1210 590 1010 95 £558
XP PLUS-13 1430 590 1170 95 £608

CH-XP Plus Radiator


The model is controlled by means of intuitive menus, making it extremely user friendly.

SAFETY: It has a keyboard locking device to avoid its use by non-authorised persons, or children.

PROGRAMMING: The programming feature enables the setting of six operating time zones for every day of the week, which can be displayed, or memorised, differently at any given moment. The system comes with standard operating time zones that can be customised to suit the user’s needs. This allows different times and different temperatures for each day of the week if required.

INSTALLATION: The CH-XP Plus heater feeds of a 230 V mains, and can be fitted in both single and triple phase installations.

Lighted operation switch.
Safety heat limiter.
Side twin cover.
With weekly chronothermostat.
330W to 1430W power.
Comes with wall bracket kit
Injected aluminium frame with white Epoxy finish, weather and corrosion proof.
1” metal-clad electrical resistor, made of AISI-304 stainless steel tube, low energy and maximum heat efficiency.
FARHOIL high temperature, thermal fluid with a resistance -40ºC to 330ºC range, high heat conducting capacity and low vapour pressure, which has been specially developed to obtain maximum performance.
Technical Specification and recommended retail prices
- Exc VAT

[KLD]

(...)  the claim is 25% more efficient than a typical electric oil rad, (...)
 
174.7 w/hour of heat per 110w capacity fin.  This means high heat output but low energy consumption.

Oh dear. So, you get more heat out per kWh leccy input? Where does the remaining energy go if not into heat?  Or do they have a different word usage for "efficiency"?
At least there was no "green" argument in the blurb.

 
Klaus

[northern installer]

"Ye cannae change the laws of physics Jim" ...with apologies to(the late) Scotty