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Author Topic: How big is your bucket? (aka PRV collection vessel.)  (Read 1686 times)
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2009, 11:46:13 PM »

Pip, I think many of the previous posters are forgetting that the prv valve is spring loaded, and will open when the pressure exceeds the pressure setting, and release enough pressure to to get it down to the pre-set pressure, and then re-close, it will not remain open and drain the whole system, I do not recall ever seeing a prv get to the stage where they actually blow off! they usually just slowly dribble off the pressure, usually unnoticed.

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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2009, 07:37:22 AM »

Pip, I think many of the previous posters are forgetting that the prv valve is spring loaded, and will open when the pressure exceeds the pressure setting, and release enough pressure to to get it down to the pre-set pressure, and then re-close, it will not remain open and drain the whole system, I do not recall ever seeing a prv get to the stage where they actually blow off! they usually just slowly dribble off the pressure, usually unnoticed.

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Thanks Terrier

Yes I agree, I think the size of the vessel only needs to be a few litres in reality.  However care should be observed if the vessel would over flow and cause a problem, say in the roof space. 

From experience I have had PRVs stay open when testing.  I think the test knob on many are designed  to turn past a point and let the valve “Click down”  or in other words, the test knob will lift the valve open to a certain high, then let it thump down to form a seal when the knob is turned past a predefined point.  I have found on some valves gently opening by turning clockwise, then gently releasing by letting it go back anticlockwise against the spring can sometimes cause a partial close.  Also on first operation if debris should get caught on the valve seating the same thing can happen. (note to self; always flush the system, including the PRV). 

I am thinking in an over pressure situation, then the valve would most likely would open and close slowly thus potentially not seal fully, hence the need to be careful should the loop empty down due to this problem. 

Not that I have ever observed this scenario.  I wonder if anyone in the forum has experienced of PRV not closing properly?

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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2009, 09:49:12 PM »

had a 90o 7 bar on top of an SLME 400 keep passing, thought I was going to have to return with another... Got the debris out in the end!

More often is finding PRV that will not release when turned, or more worryingly will hold on well above their rated setting!

I have friends who will no longer install the "domestic" style PRVs
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2009, 08:31:43 AM »

had a 90o 7 bar on top of an SLME 400 keep passing, thought I was going to have to return with another... Got the debris out in the end!
Yep a good reason to give it a good flushing.  When I think about it, the PRV will probably be in part of the circuit where there is no or limited water flow in day to day use.  As such debris could collect near the valve.  I would normally test the valve during the annual inspection of the sealed cylinder, however I would be letting out the antifreeze if I was to do so.

More often is finding PRV that will not release when turned, or more worryingly will hold on well above their rated setting!
That IS scary. Shocked
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