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Author Topic: 'A' rated tumble dryer  (Read 2136 times)
Nicedad
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2009, 08:30:02 PM »

Thanks Billi,

Never knew there were so many 'A' rated units made. But having googled the list I'm still comfortable with the T59840 as the other units (other than the gas unit) are either not available in the UK or the capital cost is too expensive.
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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2009, 08:34:08 AM »

i did some work about 10 years ago designing a tumble dryer for a well known home British appliance company (almost all their products suck  Grin).

As part of the development process we looked into various other models including the AEG heatpump models and i have to say they were superbly built.  The insides were like a watch, not a finger mark on any of the (many) internal stainless parts compared to the US (Maytag etc) driers which looked like they were built on scrapheap challenge, all poor quality pressings and blooby welds. 

At the time the AEG's were about a grand and pretty much twice the price of anything else around.

An important point is that the energy ratings A-G are on a different scale depending on whether the dryer is a vented (white duct you have to put thru the wall) or condenser.

Lots of condensers had B or A ratings whilst vented had Cs and Ds but if you looked at kW used per kg of clothes dried the vented dryers used less than the condensers. 

The difference was primarily due to the fact the vented units were using the heat from the house as well as the electricity. If you heat using gas then it's possible that this is a good thing.  If you disconnected the electric heaters you would effectively have a gas tumble dryer. 

I wonder if a dryer vent could be plumbed into a MHRV system?

A condenser dryer will effectively act as an electric heater in your room so if you have MHRV it may make some sense.

Another factor is that condenser dryers are much less reliable than vented dryers (more gubbins to break).  A vented dryer can last for years (my parents one is over 25 years old and still going).  So if you are just going to use a dryer occasionally for emergencies a vented dryer may make more sense in terms of capital cost, reliability and embodied energy.
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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2009, 11:06:25 AM »

Just had a thought.... Oh no I hear you cry.
Having just been involved in modifying a washing machine to run on solar hot water it makes me think about other white goods.
So Gas driers are much cheaper to run than normal leccy ones so why not use your gas central heating boiler to heat the air running into the drier?
A separate zone on the heating system could be plumbed into an old car radiator (or something) and the air could then be ducted into the drier?
I am sure this could even be used with spare solar hot water?
The moist air could then be ducted into a heat recovery system.
I guess this would make for a very efficient system in the winter as the heat would be generated from an efficient source and would then be put into the house rather than vented outside.
just a daft idea from a daftlad!
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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2009, 01:21:02 PM »

would that not be the same as using a vented dryer taking air from the room and exhausting via the MHRV system?  The heat exchanger would be your room radiator/UFH etc.
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2009, 01:41:36 PM »

It would fill the ventilation system with a lot of moisture  which would lead to fungus in the system.   The same applies to connecting kitchen extractors directly.   
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2009, 01:59:32 PM »

It would fill the ventilation system with a lot of moisture  which would lead to fungus in the system.   The same applies to connecting kitchen extractors directly.   

Are they not designed to cope with bathroom air? so why not kitchen and tumble drier air?

The advantage of a separate radiator/zone is that the temperature could be higher and it could be run with the heating off.

Even without the exhaust run into the MHRV system would it be better than a normal electric drier?
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