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« Reply #390 on: January 27, 2012, 10:24:23 PM »

Hi Desp,

Been there. Done that.

We found the best way to keep the foam gun functional was:

1) Keep the can on the gun. Only change it when it's empty and you need to load a new cannister. Taking the foam cannister off to clean the gun always ended up with either the gun jamming or the valve failing.

2) Buy a tin of acetone from the builders' merchants. We bought 5l. It will last a couple of lifetimes. One of the ladies in the house had a tallish, narrow bottle that used to hold something smelly. We put some acetone in it and left the business end of the spray gun in it overnight. In the morning, it was child's play to remove the foam ready for another day's squirting.
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« Reply #391 on: January 31, 2012, 09:55:27 PM »

Thanks Richard, I'll try that, I have some Acetone left from a big fibreglass resin job we did a while back. I don't use a lot of foam, usually try to use the whole can in one go, but I'm hopeless for keeping all sorts of leftover for a rainy day, can't get in the garage any more now.

I will try and enter up our 2011 energy data soon, another long meaningless chart for you...................yawn.

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« Reply #392 on: February 20, 2012, 09:10:18 PM »

Hey Winny re your idea for a thermosyphon system, we were discussing side arm exchangers, here's a piccy as promised of the one I made, can't show a pic of it installed as it is in our neighbours airing cupboard. signofcross

As a by the way we reached 59 top and 58 bottom of the cylinder today , maybe 60 tomorrow fingers crossed!

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« Reply #393 on: February 20, 2012, 09:42:25 PM »

reminds me of this epic tale by frotter......

http://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1319.150.html   ( da ja vu  when you scroll about half way down the page!!!)
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« Reply #394 on: February 20, 2012, 09:52:12 PM »

Ha ha ha, yeah, but I promise I'm not blowing exhaust fumes into the neighbours airing cupboard angel

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« Reply #395 on: March 19, 2012, 09:20:30 PM »

Well I'll go to the bottom of the stairs Cheesy  first heat dump of the year 75C top and bottom, long,ish shower tonight, luxury after a day of angle grinder on concrete blocks. Please don't tell me off Wookey, I know there's a drought on tumble

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« Reply #396 on: March 20, 2012, 08:20:14 AM »

Don't feel guilty Desp. I have had the sprinkler on this morning. The ground was so hard that it resembles concrete and the annual removal of the dreaded American Onion Weed is about to commence
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« Reply #397 on: March 25, 2012, 12:04:30 AM »

I had first bath of the year last w/e too. Lots of lovely hot water (after hard day's garage-insulating in my case). I may tell people off about carbon generation - I thought I was relatively lenient on water use :-)
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« Reply #398 on: March 26, 2012, 04:08:19 PM »

Wookey said:-
I had first bath of the year last w/e too. Lots of lovely hot water (after hard day's garage-insulating in my case). I may tell people off about carbon generation - I thought I was relatively lenient on water use :-)

Well that's just not fair, I haven't had a bath yet this year maybe that's why I'm loosing friends and collecting flies facepalm

Anyway, a quick update on "The Orifice Refurb", fitting 8cm of Celotex into the skeiling bit, blocking the airvent and fitting a decent DG window has made a very noticeable difference to the comfort in the room. I spend quite a bit of time in there in front of this blasted pooter running the J&H Builders empire hysteria hysteria
and it used to feel a little chilly sometimes. OK I know the weather has been quite mild since it was completed but it has made a difference, a bit less heat needed Grin.

So the next stage is nearly on us namely rip out the kitchen/utility wall, fit UFH to the new kit/diner and external insulation to about25m2 of solid wall. Talking through some of the plans with Mrs Desp, I thought I'd be cheeky and posit the idea of sticking a giant thermal store under the UFH, "as I'm digging the floor up  anyway why not go a bit deeper and put a big tank in" I said trying to make light of the 30 tonne mountain of spoil that would come out. "Right.....................so how big is this hole then" she says "Well I guess it would be good to have say 20,000 litres under there" I say quickly "that's a big blooming hole" she said " yes but we could easily fit say 2*3*4m in there without getting too close to the foundation, so that 24m3" I say carefully sidestepping the fact that we also need shedloads of insulation round it all. To cut a long storey short to my utter amazement she agreed in principal to adding a seasonal store to the increasingly long list of craziness we have installed at Cactusville. I dunno why the poor girl puts up with me, I really don't. The new kitchen had better meet with supreme approval or my gonads could have a close encounter with the blender horror horror

So trying to put my sensible hat on flyingpig I am trying to work through the actual practicalities of doing this, the structural aspect is easy enough, shoring up the foundations is easy stuff in theory if quite hard in practice, building a tanked "basement"to receive it all again no sweat, but the Achilles heel I think is how the heck am I going to get a vast tank in the building?Huh? Having got the "hole" past SWMBO/PP I just know it's a step too far to demolish the front of the house for access. I guess it is possible to install small tank units and connect it all up, but the thought of loads of inaccessible plumbing under the floor is not particularly agreeable, fabricating something in situ?? not sure really.

I would dearly love to do something while I have the chance, but we are going to start in about 5-6 weeks so I need a plan in place by then. Realistically it doesn't sound feasible  to get a load of tankage down there as a retrofit project if I am honest,, but what about some kind of slinky/borehole to dump and recover heat directly from the ground??

Anyone have any thoughts on this?, I will post a scale drawing of the ground floor of cactusville later so you can visualise it a bit better, but I better go lay down in the shed now ralph

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« Reply #399 on: March 26, 2012, 05:33:34 PM »

Neoprene or similar long life pond liner?
Look here for more info: http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/SpaceHeating/Components.htm#Storage
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« Reply #400 on: March 26, 2012, 10:35:27 PM »

Probably worth having a look at this thread for building your own tank.  http://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8946.0.html

Edit looking through the thread you have found it Cheesy

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« Reply #401 on: March 27, 2012, 06:15:16 PM »

Eh? underground hot tub? Splendid idea old thing, what..?

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« Reply #402 on: March 28, 2012, 07:16:33 PM »

Fintray, Beau, thanks for those thoughts, I wonder what the life span of those type of liners and constructions would be? The thought of something home made and so difficult to repair in the event of problems is a little daunting to be honest but I will scout about for some more ideas.

Frot, underground hot tub..............hmm, sounds like we need the services of THE GRAVY MINER, it could be a kind of hot cowpie with gravy pittub. Mind you I can't see Mrs Desp falling  for that one ......................

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« Reply #403 on: March 28, 2012, 10:56:34 PM »

Input from The Gravy Miner would, indeed, be extremely welcome.
He appears to have pulled down the portcullis.......   Cry


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« Reply #404 on: May 23, 2012, 07:53:03 PM »

I,ve finally managed to finish of all our outstanding jobs for the time being, so at last we can start ripping Cactusville apart (and hopefully putting it together again fingers crossed!). It is a bit "renewable and green" as we plan to ditch the horrible old radiators and fan blowers in the kitchen and utility in favour of a well insulated floor with UFH, and also to apply external insulation to the walls in question, as a trial run to sticking it all over the building in the not tooo distant.

 If you have a peep at the part L bldg regs you will see a regulation that calls for "works to a thermal element must comply with the latest standards". Thermal element being wall, floor or roof. This could be something of a problem because to comply with the U value required I need to stick on just under 10cm of celotex and then spread it with render. But the wall in question forms the side passage down to the garden which is only just  navigable with my barrow taking great care not to shred my knuckles Tongue If I stick 5 cm plus spread on the wall the knuckles are safe-ish, 10cm plus spread and they are not. The use of that side passage is very frequent, I,m always humping something down there  Shocked , not least about 5 tonnes of wood a year so we could have an interesting conversation with the "Beyond Comprehension Man"

Anyoldhow that's an issue for a few weeks time really, first we have to get a load of steelworks into place,  part the roofs off for access and back on again, the walls down, the floor dug out and all manor of other stuff. I will be on site full time for 8 weeks or so, so if anyone out there would like to pop over to take the mickey, help, be nosey, or just have a plain old chinwag, give us a shout.

Pictures and more old baloney if you can drag yourselves away from your inverters/rants/fits payments/whatever and are in the least interested.

Good vibes all.

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