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Author Topic: Help - My gas won't burn.  (Read 15191 times)
desperate
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« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2009, 03:00:41 PM »

Sorry mate I don't do safe, crazy,mad,Pyromanic, no problem, safe................nah. Try a small test tube, just a few crystals of sodium hydroxide and a lighted splint held in gloves at arms length, goggles as well.

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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2009, 04:44:12 PM »

If you floated some NaOH in a little boat on some water in a large container, and inverted a test tube of 'gas' over the top of it, as long as you kept the pressure constant (use plastic tube instead of testtube with a rubber diaphragm at the top , so you can use the diaphragm as a pressure gauge), you could maybe work out the ratio of methane to CO2. With a bit of lateral thinking, you could probably device a much more robust experiment
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« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2009, 05:13:55 PM »

I have a feeling my project is about hit the buffers. Do you think, scaled up, this digester idea is really worth it if it involves lots of complicated stuff to get it clean and concentrated enough to use.  You guys appear to have been at it a long time so I guess you know the truth by now. flyingpig
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« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2009, 06:13:41 PM »

cant help with the detail as I have never attempted biogas production,but it would appear that you are doing most things right,and 'almost there' In your position I would be tempted to give it at least 6 months,carefully recording any changes you make;remember,we are talking biology here,which tends to be rather more fickle than pure chemistry!
Keep it going,then invite the forum to a waste fuelled barbeque in the spring lol Tongue
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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2009, 06:25:53 PM »

JMALW

Dont give up    Cry   as NI says you are almost there, as long as we can make some progress without spending too much of your money ev3en a negative result is valuable. Think of the vast amount of gas that comes from landfill, that cant be a very scientifically managed mix, but it is commercial, give it a bit more time someone here will find something.

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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2009, 07:06:51 PM »

I'll lend my voice to "don't give up" too - you're so close........... Grin
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2009, 07:56:18 PM »

I have a feeling my project is about hit the buffers. Do you think, scaled up, this digester idea is really worth it if it involves lots of complicated stuff to get it clean and concentrated enough to use.  You guys appear to have been at it a long time so I guess you know the truth by now. flyingpig
Yup keep going, it IS possible and you seem to be nearly there, imagine how good it will feel when you finally singe your eyebrows off.  sh*tfan
I am not sure if running a genny is so economic (unless it is a combined heat and power system) I think cooking and heating is a better use of the gas.
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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2009, 08:25:01 PM »

I cant believe we've had 20 odd replys under that title and not one lavatorial joke,,,,,,,,,,,I....must.....resist....

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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2009, 08:28:30 PM »

Desperate.....one day i might tell you a story about a Flamethrower...... but not tonight Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2009, 08:47:23 PM »

 Grin  a certain Johnny Cash song comes to mind Wink

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« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2009, 08:54:06 PM »

 Grin I let you know tomorrow, I've just finished a chicken and doner kebab with copious garlic and chilli sauce, heaven tonight! Grin hell tomorrow  Grin Grin Grin


P.S Apologies to  JMALW for going off topic but we also like to have a jest now and then..!
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« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2009, 09:03:46 PM »

,,,,,,,,,,I....must.....resist....



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OK.

Me too  Grin
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« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2009, 09:52:39 PM »

Quote "The problem I have is that the gas DOES NOT BURN."

how are you trying to burn the gas. ?

The calorific value of the gas is very changeable, all commercial plants that I have worked on have a L.P.G. / Nat gas pilot burner
with a main base flame of L.P.G. /  Natural gas or oil. The base flame being about ten percent of the boiler design.
waste gas is introduced after the base flame has established though additional gas nozzles.
The additional combustion air is added in proportion to the waste gas pressure to maintain a stable air fuel ratio.

Modification of a domestic type boiler  or injection into the air stream of an engine with a purpose built mixing system is quite doable

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« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2009, 10:12:05 PM »

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photo's man, photo's....

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« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2009, 10:13:59 PM »

A picture speaks a thousand words Grin
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