ACE responses

[Ted]

The Association for the Conservation of Energy:

http://www.ukace.org/publications/ACE%20Response%20%282009-10%29%20-%20DECC%20Renewable%20Electricity%20Financial%20Incentives.pdf

- only wants fully insulated houses to be eligible for FiTs
- agrees with MCS accreditation
- concerned over fuel poverty
- thinks that systems that have been installed to meet B Regs Part L CO₂ reductions should not qualify for FiTs

[Paulh_Boats]

They say:

"ACE agrees that the minimum export price should not exceed the import price to prevent the inefficient situation where a generator exports all of their generated energy, whilst importing and using that from the grid."

That's really silly, as the exported green energy WILL be used by somebody and it WILL reduce the load on the power station generators, regardless of who uses it. More to the point to exported energy will go straight to the nearest neighbours with almost zero loss.

That points to a basic lack of knowledge about electrical engineering by ACE.

-Paul

[Ivan]

Although high FIT distorts the value of renewables eg from a financial point of view, you can generate 1/4 of what you need, and because you have zero electricity bill, you assume you're 'carbon neutral', I think it IS important for more reasons than simply generating the incentive to install in the first place. ie if you get paid a high rate for export, you will have the incentive to reduce your consumption during the period that you generate. If we're talking PVs, that's precisely the period we need people to reduce power in order to balance the grid better. And anyone reducing their power consumption for certain periods of the day, is unlikely to consume wastefully for the remaining period of the day.

[wexford]

@Paulh I think they are trying to stop someone running a bank of halford battery chargers for 12 hours connected to a pile of batteries then "exporting" via an inverter.

If people were and are prepared to bypass meters, attach magnets, tilt them etc they'd definitely look at pretending to export enough to cover their costs and make a few pence.

wonder what the break even point of losses in the charger, batteries and inverter versus price difference in export versus export? I'd guess the export tariff would need to be twice as much as the import tariff?


Wexford