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« Reply #75 on: January 04, 2011, 05:21:04 PM » |
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Still discussing with suppliers, but best so far:
Sanyo HIP-215NKHE5 x 18 (3.87kWp)
SMA SB4000TL Inverter
Just under £14k (£3.50/Wp) fully installed with a Sunny Beam Bluetooth monitor.
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nickhlx
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« Reply #76 on: January 04, 2011, 06:16:11 PM » |
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Hi,
Where in the country are you based ?
Nick
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« Reply #77 on: January 04, 2011, 08:41:57 PM » |
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Hi,
Where in the country are you based ?
Nick
South Coast, near Portsmouth. |
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ecotrician
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« Reply #78 on: January 17, 2011, 05:36:52 PM » |
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With regards the transformerless inverter I was recently told that you must install a type B rcd (not to be confused with a type B MCB) and also all panels must be earthed to a stake.
This is because of galvonic isolation which the transformer usually provides
Anyone else heard this?
If your earthing is PME then the array needs an earth rod usually, if TNS or TT then the earth wire can go straight to the MET at consumer unit like any other equipotential bonding. RCD issue is due to this ttype of inverter nuisance tripping RCD's, a standard RCBO can be used though, depends on installation. |
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jerriais
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« Reply #79 on: January 29, 2011, 11:25:00 PM » |
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Hi,
I'd be interested to see what the breakdown of these quotes are, i.e. how much are installers charging for panels, how much for the inverter, labour, system design, roof mounting kit etc. If anyone could post those it would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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GavinA
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« Reply #80 on: January 31, 2011, 02:17:04 PM » |
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Hi,
I'd be interested to see what the breakdown of these quotes are, i.e. how much are installers charging for panels, how much for the inverter, labour, system design, roof mounting kit etc. If anyone could post those it would be much appreciated. Thanks!
I don't know about anyone else, but we quote on a total job basis, not itemising each component part of the job. |
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« Reply #81 on: January 31, 2011, 02:39:17 PM » |
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I've heard that some companies do just give a total job cost but I thought that the REAL code specified that quotes should be broken down, although it doesn't go into detail about how much detail an installer should go into. But I might be wrong on that, haven't checked recently.
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GavinA
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« Reply #82 on: February 01, 2011, 02:45:00 PM » |
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I've heard that some companies do just give a total job cost but I thought that the REAL code specified that quotes should be broken down, although it doesn't go into detail about how much detail an installer should go into. But I might be wrong on that, haven't checked recently.
you had me worried for a minute there, but no it's not necessary. A quote must include an itemised list of all goods and services included in the quote and a price of all goods and services to be supplied, but the price doesn't need to be itemised in any way. |
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ecotrician
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« Reply #83 on: February 01, 2011, 05:47:54 PM » |
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I agree with Gavin, we list all the items which are going to be supplied as this is part of the contract but each job is an overall price, this is the price the customers pays and compares with other suppliers.
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« Reply #84 on: February 01, 2011, 06:07:55 PM » |
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I wasn't 100% sure on this myself so I thought I'd better check in the code ...
"Members should follow a 'no surprises' pricing policy. Prices should be itemised clearly and broken down as far as possible. The quotation must be clear and easy to understand. Members must provide consumers with an accurate description of any ancillary costs they are likely to incur, for example the costs of a back-up fuel."
So I guess it depends on the definition of "as far as possible"
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« Reply #86 on: February 02, 2011, 09:10:55 PM » |
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I wasn't 100% sure on this myself so I thought I'd better check in the code ...
"Members should follow a 'no surprises' pricing policy. Prices should be itemised clearly and broken down as far as possible. The quotation must be clear and easy to understand. Members must provide consumers with an accurate description of any ancillary costs they are likely to incur, for example the costs of a back-up fuel."
So I guess it depends on the definition of "as far as possible"
as far as I'm concerned the quote is for a fully installed system with everything detailed within it included in the price, therefore the price is for the system as a whole, and attempting to itemise it would be misleading as for example cutting a panel off the system or adding a panel to it doesn't alter the price just by the price of that panel, as there are the extra fixings, fitting time, inverter may need changing etc etc. itemising it would serve no useful purpose, and the itemised prices would probably bear no relation to the prices actually paid to the supplier anyway in most cases, so it'd just be a waste of everyone's time. |
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« Reply #87 on: February 13, 2011, 01:17:00 PM » |
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Have just had a quote of £10,000 for a 2.45kWp system
10 x Sharp 245W panels
Inverter to be confirmed!
I'm in Ayrshire.
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8 x SolarWorld 245W Mono Black Panels and Power One PVI-2000 Inverter
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« Reply #88 on: February 20, 2011, 10:21:24 AM » |
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I'm still waiting for my written quote from my first survey.
Have decided to obtain another couple of quotes. Can anyone reccommend an installer who would work in the Ayrshire area?
PM me if anyone has any suggestions!
Thanks.
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8 x SolarWorld 245W Mono Black Panels and Power One PVI-2000 Inverter
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« Reply #89 on: February 20, 2011, 02:18:43 PM » |
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I've been chasing prices for the last 2-3 months and now paid my deposit.
3.5Kw, £11,900 - SB3800, Sunnybeam, Schumo roof fitting, 18 x Caymax 195-72SE (which I believe are being rerated at 200w). They take credit cards at no cost so 0% finance for 12 months/cashback savings.
Same company willing to provide 4.1kw for £13.6k but decided to save the cash and roof space for solar thermal.
Other comparable quotes I had were.
3.88kw £13k - SB4000, Sunnybeam, 21xNU185s. Take creditcards.
3.96kw £13.1k - SB4000, Sunnybeam, 18xSolarworld 220 poly. No creditcard and Clickfit install although Schuco for not much more.
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