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« Reply #75 on: March 10, 2010, 07:02:41 PM » |
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Dan,
A bit late joining this thread - as I was swanning around in California when you started it.
As a non-parent, I will say that you have certainly less responsibility and relative freedom and more disposable income, but you will struggle hard to fill that empty space with anything of real lasting value.
My partner and I missed the boat, and regret it now. If you don't breed, there's 10 million chavs and un-married teenagers out there that will continue the good British stock. Do you think they give it second thought?
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« Reply #76 on: March 10, 2010, 07:39:13 PM » |
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. . How scary, how true.... Due date come and gone here... term plus 3.. Have any mothers (or fathers) out there found that nowadays the medical profession are all to quick to jump in ON THE DUE DATE, insisting the baby be delivered AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, almost as if it has to be gotten out of the womb ASAP.. Talk about having freedom of choice and all that! We have been looking into all this INTERVENTION that goes on with pregnancies nowadays and the statistics are very worrying. You really have to stick to your guns where the consultants are concerned, they never seem to give you all the facts and figures allowing you to make an informed decision on whats best FOR YOU! Never mind about fitting in with their schedules and what they want, it is what YOU want.... If they had their way my partner by now would probably be laid in hospital feeling very sore and uncomfortable, unable to drive for 6 weeks after a Cesarean on the due date. That's because originally the consultant wanted her in on the due date to induce the labour (despite their being no clinical need to do so!) and statistically induced labours are more likely to end up needing intervention such as a Cesarean. That means longer recovery, more stress on baby, more likelyhood of PPH etc etc etc. There is a very interesting article written by a nurse in a maternity ward in America... we have experienced (are experiencing!!) very much the same thing here in the UK!!! and I'm sure it goes on a lot more than we imagine. http://nursingbirth.com/2009/04/05/don%E2%80%99t-let-this-happen-to-you-25-sarah-john%E2%80%99s-unnecessary-induction/Scary stuff!!! . . |
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« Reply #77 on: March 10, 2010, 08:38:19 PM » |
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Blimey Peedoftec when we were going to all the prenatal classes and stuff,all the medical people were saying time and again that the due date was not to be taken too seriously and that plus or minus 2 weeks was no sweat, in the event he turned out 9 days early I think, meanwhile I was on another planet/dimension, an occasion not to be missed  Desperate |
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« Reply #78 on: March 10, 2010, 08:46:56 PM » |
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Stand your ground peedoftec.
The baby knows better than anyone when it should be on the move. ( apparently boys are more inclined to hang around takin it easy )
The medical approach seems to be based on not getting sued and sees induced labour as a lower risk that leaving it too long.
Its all a bit worrying when its the first baby, as youve no real experience of your own to draw on.
Our first was a couple of weeks late and they tried to tell us it still had a couple of weeks to run.
What did we know about temperature charts and ovulation .................
Nothing changes.
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« Reply #79 on: March 10, 2010, 08:54:52 PM » |
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. . ... and then when you start to look into it all in more detail... has anybody looked into "delayed cord clamping"  ? Well think about it... When the baby is in the womb the babies heart actually BYPASSES the babies lungs and pumps blood through the placenta to get it's oxygen. At the point of birth the "hole in the heart" (the bypass valve) closes up and switches to pumping blood round the babies lungs to get its oxygen, at which point hopefully it is born. Now as it pops out (I make it sound so easy - sorry ladies!!) the mechanism has to switch from one "mode" to another and you cannot tell me that can happen at the flick of a switch. Some midwifes will wait "until the cord stops pulsing" others will clip and cut within seconds of the birth, essentially clamping off a babies lifeline to what could be classed as an organ - the placenta. As the uterus contracts immediately after birth it will actually pass blood BACK into the infant. Studies have shown the benefits with preterm babies leaving the cord intact for quite some time as it can pass back quite a volume of blood (and iron for anaemic babies!) We are going to monitor closely the clamping time, delaying it for a few minutes at least!! With a "Lotus Birth" they don't even clamp/cut the cord!!! .....but that one is a step too far for us!!! LOL Each to their own.. . . |
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« Reply #80 on: March 10, 2010, 09:30:41 PM » |
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Sorry about the admittedly nitpicking digression, but why does US law get special mention? - why not Iranian law or Israeli law or South African law or Thai law? I guess the answer is that Simple Machines are a US outfit, which isn't a very good reason. So that statement could usefully be adjusted to just leave the important bit (the list of things you promise not to do) and remove the special mention of US law, which isn't particularly relevant here.
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« Reply #81 on: March 10, 2010, 10:01:12 PM » |
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that will be the classic ' replying to the wrong thread after a glass of plonk'...... huh?
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« Reply #82 on: March 10, 2010, 10:10:47 PM » |
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Even more OT
Guy, are you using Noels gravy to drive the wheel? it seems to be rusting alarmingly quickly.
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« Reply #83 on: March 10, 2010, 10:21:47 PM » |
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<yup - OT>
LOL - no - just bored of the pic. That is a pic of it basically on day 1 - can you make out the state of the rusty buckets?
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« Reply #84 on: March 14, 2010, 11:31:21 PM » |
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Wooh hooo!!!!! baby boy born at home, all natural at 5:38pm, (a little gas and air) after 7 hours of labour. Weighed in at a healthy 8lb 8.5oz (missus is only diddy). How's THAT for a mothers day present.
Haven't agreed a name as yet, suggestions on a postcard please!
He popped out, had a little drink and went to sleep!!! How good is that!
Cheers, off to dote on my son!
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« Reply #85 on: March 14, 2010, 11:34:34 PM » |
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Congratulations!  I see you managed on gas and air - howsabout the missus?  |
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« Reply #86 on: March 14, 2010, 11:40:37 PM » |
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Yes, the gas and air bottles are still here...... they will be going back empty later in the week!!
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« Reply #87 on: March 15, 2010, 06:40:11 AM » |
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Well done! and birthday on the same day like one famous Navitron Moderator  Billi |
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« Reply #88 on: March 15, 2010, 12:46:28 PM » |
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Wooh hooo!!!!! baby boy born at home, all natural at 5:38pm, (a little gas and air) after 7 hours of labour. Weighed in at a healthy 8lb 8.5oz (missus is only diddy). How's THAT for a mothers day present.
Haven't agreed a name as yet, suggestions on a postcard please!
He popped out, had a little drink and went to sleep!!! How good is that!
Cheers, off to dote on my son!
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« Reply #89 on: March 15, 2010, 03:29:50 PM » |
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well done both of you,dont it feel great! |
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