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Author Topic: SMA Sunny Island, why, what, advantages and Install.  (Read 38659 times)
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« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2014, 10:04:22 AM »

Ducts etc- This is what you sometimes have to foresee:

The little blighters cause no end of expensive damage



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« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2014, 12:04:51 PM »

Tinbum, you need several of these layabouts, we have 4.

Here is "Kiwi" advertising a New local tipple.



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« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2014, 12:34:24 PM »

We have a local one in town and until very recently it was still used. Watched a very swish BMW pull up and a respectable middle aged Madame get out and do her washing.
Suggested it to Mrs T who commented something about sex and travel!! hysteria

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« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2014, 09:47:11 PM »

Ordered the Sunny Island 6.0h-11 and the Sunny Remote Controller.

Also got the 200a Shunt (60mv) on its way, thanks Paul.

The main fuse is the 250a breaker from Midnite.

Bits arrived for the Sunny Boy's.

2off 48v chargers now here, thanks knighty.

I now have to upgrade a few cables.  C.rap got a dig a new 10mm2 4 core in but only 45 meters for my 3500 SB.


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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2014, 08:45:22 AM »

Congrats, you're well on your way!

You'll also need some sort of comms board for the Sunny Boys to reprogram them into off-grid mode.  ...or maybe take them to a local installer who can do it for you?
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« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2014, 09:10:22 AM »

Aye CM,

and you'll need to plug in the cable before you start SDC,



I spent hours, nay days trying to configure my inverters before a nice man from 'Sun and Wind' helped me out. If you don't plug the data cable in first SDC doesn't recognize it. Now this may be perfectly obvious to folk used to 'puters but to me it wasn't  banghead



Good luck, Paul

Now I'm off to connect Harry up to the SI.

PS, will those chargers not cook your jelly batteries  Huh or are the for something else  Huh
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« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2014, 10:28:53 AM »

Oh er?

Was going to use the Bluetooth piggy back board on to my SB's.
Got some Bluetooth boards on there way here.
Got a cheapo laptop with Bluetooth, and windows 7, SMA preferred software.

I read the stuff, and I need the Unlock code from SMA, but I will wait till I have all stuff to hand.

Paul, the chargers are either 60amp or 80amp, but I will have to test them down at the power station to see what they will draw on my present going down EDF connected cable, if things get warmish, then I will change to a 3phase connection from EDF, or I can swap over cables to a bigger one. So i need to do some testing.

 I have 1300ah of those gell batts, all connected up so they share the load exactly, all 16mm2 cable, all exactly the same length all the same connectors, soldered on 8mm dia eye bolt lugs. 


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« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2014, 10:55:38 AM »

If the chargers aren't voltage limited then they could damage the batts.  It looks like paul already posted the unlock code for you in the picture above!
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« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2014, 10:57:34 AM »

SSHH don't tell Biff.

Exterior canopy for the SI, yes all spaces around are to their distances SMA require, and the non combustible 2mm thick Galver steel mounting sheet.

Connectors bolt studs. The MCB is 100 amp for my present 3.7kW Inverter, this will get replaced, but the battery connections will remain.

Batteries, lots of these.

And lots of these, Sshh don't tell biff.  



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« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2014, 11:01:02 AM »

Exterior canopy for the SI

I hope you meant the SB, not the SI!  The SB is outdoor rated, but not the SI, it'll need to be kept dry and out of the rain
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« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2014, 11:04:40 AM »

Oh well, will put some doors on the canopy then, this side is protected from most of the weather, but have hassles with snow drifts.

Cheers about the Unlock code.  genuflect

As I say Stephen, I need to do some testing on those chargers.
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« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2014, 11:57:25 AM »

I've never taken it apart... but the 3 phase one is pretty dumb, I'm pretty sure it has 3 modes of charge, high, medium , low (for empty, half full, topping off)

(but of a guess going by the buzzing it makes, but there's a noticeable step in the buzzing noise as the batteries fill)

if you take the cover off, you could probably control those steps directly... or just disconnect one of them?
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« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2014, 05:38:07 PM »

Okay, knighty I have been messing with the Chargers. The 3 phase had the Live battery terminal catching on the case frame and the fuse is bust but still intact.

I prefer the 3 phase charger as its connections/cable size are about 4mm2 on input. The single phase charger is 10mm2 on input.

However the 3 phase also requires a neutral so that's 5 core cable if you include an Earth. But even so what's in place is a 4mm2 4 core including earth.  Although over here in France Earth tends to be a 1m rod banged in the ground, so I could do a earth at each end?

The 3 phase is 80a at a charging voltage of 48v, now my turbines can give a steady 60a with another 60a of PV. This 120a is regulating with controllers that back off, and Turbines that can dump excess.

So if you recall I can use the 80a from the charger as brute power to my batteries when the Sunny Island is pulling more than is going in. Yes the 1300ah batteries can handle a fair bit, but I like the idea of the 3 phase charger kicking in with its 80a.

Problem, Do I really need a neutral on the 3 phase, if I just want brute power, but looking at the transformer it has multi tapping's on the transformer coils and may require the neutral to switch in and out some of those tapping's?

 First 2 pics the 3phase charger.

Last pic is the single phase.


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« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2014, 08:29:01 PM »

Not Good.....

I purchased a SMA Sunny Island SI 6.0H-11 & Sunny Remote Control SRC-20.

From This German Company…….   TeMo GbR     Frühlingsweg 1.     89431 Bächingen.
 
I paid them 3057,00 EUR.
I also purchased, on a separate small order a SMA Piggy Back Bluetooth  at  106.25 EUR.

According to TeMoGbR, SMA would not send these items to France as my French address does not exist/no such address.

The company won't refund, so much for me buying the proper stuff.

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« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2014, 09:08:12 PM »

Not Good.....

I purchased a SMA Sunny Island SI 6.0H-11 & Sunny Remote Control SRC-20.

From This German Company…….   TeMo GbR     Frühlingsweg 1.     89431 Bächingen.
 
I paid them 3057,00 EUR.
I also purchased, on a separate small order a SMA Piggy Back Bluetooth  at  106.25 EUR.

According to TeMoGbR, SMA would not send these items to France as my French address does not exist/no such address.

The company won't refund, so much for me buying the proper stuff.

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Dunno what mine was from Hugh in euro's but it was £2001 + VAT and here within a week. Includes his 24 hour helpline too  fingers crossed!

Sure the company has to refund by law does it not?

Good luck, Paul
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