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Author Topic: Giant Shetland windfarm plans are revived.  (Read 2176 times)
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« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2020, 11:14:56 PM »

they don't switch off entire wind farms.... they just shut off turbines until the farm is no longer producing too much power for the grid it's connected to

it's very windy right now, so you're ignoring the vast majority of days where it's not so windy, and the farm will only produce a lot less power
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« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2020, 12:09:00 AM »

Bingo! So store the energy you have already made! You are already throwing away energy we need! Why make more you cannot use?
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« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2020, 12:19:30 AM »

That makes no sense - you'd put turbines in the place they are going to generate the most. Shetland has got to be one the very best in the UK, surely? It'd also be a hell of an income earner for the Islands.

They still have to find someone who will purchase the output via a long term contract which I guess will be costed at not just the running cost of the turbines, but also with an additional charge incurred by the use of the proposed Shetland interconnect. This is going to place them at a long term disadvantage to the very large scale windfarms that have economies of scale and even more so against future large scale farms that seem to be getting cheaper to build every year.

Don't forget that this wind farm lost out in the last CfD auction that took place, so its cost structure at that time must have been higher than bidders that did win, which were based in Orkney and the Western Isles. Both of which benefit from needing far shorter (and so less costly) interconnects.
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« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2020, 12:22:28 AM »

And how is that a big earner for Shetland? Assuming you get the megaWatts off island who gets the money? Is it Shetland? I am happy to be enlightened...
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« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2020, 12:46:14 AM »

And how is that a big earner for Shetland? Assuming you get the megaWatts off island who gets the money? Is it Shetland? I am happy to be enlightened...

The real win for Shetland is a long term solution for their electrical supply issues. The wind farm will cause a large scale interconnect to be built, which will then allow the local communities to depend on electricity from the mainland. Currently, they are dependent on a mix of diesel and gas-based generation with a pile of lead-acid batteries to cope with peak demands.
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« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2020, 08:26:40 AM »

And how is that a big earner for Shetland? Assuming you get the megaWatts off island who gets the money? Is it Shetland? I am happy to be enlightened...

Well lets assume it does not work and a waste of money so why does that bother you?  At very least you have cleaner leccy.

You have mentioned constraint payments but what has that got to do with you ? why should you be bothered.

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« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2020, 10:34:17 AM »

neanderthal, at this point I'm pretty sure you're just a troll
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« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2020, 08:24:57 PM »

https://ieefa.org/utility-sse-confirms-plans-to-build-443mw-viking-project-u-k-s-largest-onshore-wind-farm/
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