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SOLAR THERMAL => Solar Cooking (using vacuum tubes or more conventional methods) => Topic started by: martin on July 10, 2007, 05:58:16 PM



Title: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: martin on July 10, 2007, 05:58:16 PM
as an adjunct to the tea brewing thread, I thought it may be interesting to find out how most of us do it :)
(and I've never played with a poll before!)


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: Mike N. on July 10, 2007, 06:07:09 PM
I think you need two polls - One for when making tea in a pot and one for making  it in a mug (or cup). Others will no doubt come up with further confounding variables.  :)

Mike


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: martin on July 10, 2007, 06:08:20 PM
sounds fair to me! ;D
http://navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1695.0


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: Paulh_Boats on July 10, 2007, 11:38:15 PM
My Grandmother was trained at a posh Cafeteria in Cheltenham in the 1930s..... she was told to put the milk in first... of course they only used teapots then (and NOT the chocolate variety  ;D). 

-Paul



Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: martin on July 11, 2007, 12:08:34 AM
George Orwell was pretty definite -
 "Tenthly, one should pour tea into the cup first. This is one of the most controversial points of all; indeed in every family in Britain there are probably two schools of thought on the subject. The milk-first school can bring forward some fairly strong arguments, but I maintain that my own argument is unanswerable. This is that, by putting the tea in first and stirring as one pours, one can exactly regulate the amount of milk whereas one is liable to put in too much milk if one does it the other way round." - from this epic tome - http://www.booksatoz.com/witsend/tea/orwell.htm 8)


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: Paulh_Boats on July 11, 2007, 12:20:01 AM
It appears that the hardcore drinkers don't have any milk at all in their tea:

http://www.teamuse.com/article_050102.html

This is turning into a storm in a tea cup  ;D


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: martin on July 11, 2007, 12:31:02 AM
more importantly, do you raise your little finger when drinking tea? ;D
My god, the English and tea etiquette!- Hyacinth Bouquet job! ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: colinstone on April 15, 2008, 01:15:36 AM
MIF - stops the tea staining fine china.


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: ajstoneservices on April 15, 2008, 04:24:01 AM
Martin,

In fairness you should also include us coffee drinkers unless this is for those who are tea total whistle


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: guydewdney on April 15, 2008, 08:19:32 AM
mug type -

tea - bag, water, stir, remove, sugar, milk.
Reason - bag needs boiling water to work best. If milk or sugar was in first, it blocks bag / cools water. Remove bag before sugar / milk so as not to get tanin taste. Sugar before milk as sugar disolves best at high temps. Milk last so as to regulate.

Coffee - all in at start, pour on water, if you pour on boiling water onto instant, it tastes burnt. Milk helps regulate the temp down a bit.

as an aside - what to do with that bit of left over armaflex insulation tape - make a bhurka kettle :D :-



Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: northern installer on April 15, 2008, 10:19:44 AM
tea in first;(only soft southerners put the milk in first),then you can judge what sort of brew it is,and avoid too much milk;luke warm ,too milky tea.?...bluuuuurk! pour it in the flower vase when shes not looking!
Long term viewers of this site will have noticed a deliberate absence of any referances to tetleys;the thread is still running from the last time!
Any chance of a bacon sarni wi this brew doll? ;D


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: Eleanor on April 15, 2008, 11:42:48 AM
Northern Installer  >:( it is you who has been killing off my flowers with the weasel pee (oops you weren't supposed to find out  wackoold) I have been feeding you. Of course you can have a pigs testicle, I mean bacon, sandwich with your weasel pee, I mean tea  whistle. Revenge for non delivery is a dish best served cold, how have you been enjoying your iced tea?  ::)
At least I've managed to keep the mushrooms a secret  whistle


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: northern installer on April 15, 2008, 01:39:02 PM
erm,feeling a bit queasy after that statement actually (martin,wheres that vomiting smiley?) :-X

I will send the window makers another email,see if they can put the job on the 'urgent ' list
Where do you want all these offset sarking junctions? theres 288 of them(but all left hand) >:(

mushrooms,hmmmmn I think its rather obvious from some of your posts,that the  cat may well have tiptoed ever so slightly out of the bag?


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: Eleanor on April 15, 2008, 02:07:40 PM
Sorry NI, I thought that's what they all ate up North  ??? Suppose you're scared of black pudding and tripe too  ;D. All posts are unfortunately a result of my unaided  :angel: imagination ie I guess I must just be mad  wackoold.
Re offset sarking junctions - please could you deliver them to the Navitron warehouse in Oakham  :D
Oh almost forgot, perscriptio in manibus tabellariorum est  whistle


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: KenB on April 15, 2008, 02:29:08 PM
Eleanor,

I see you have been dipping into that list of handy Latin phrases again  whistle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A218882

Nihili est - in vita priore ego radix lecti fui


Have a Nice Day - Indeed  ;D


Me transmitte sursum, caledoni   ;D



Ken





Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: martin on April 15, 2008, 02:57:51 PM
 whistle


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: northern installer on April 15, 2008, 04:06:26 PM
this one's for you Ken"ex fumo dare lucem"


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: northern installer on April 15, 2008, 04:41:19 PM
whistle
"I dont like roger,his labrador keeps humpimg my leg"


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: northern installer on April 15, 2008, 05:44:15 PM
Sorry NI, I thought that's what they all ate up North  ??? Suppose you're scared of black pudding and tripe too  ;D. All posts are unfortunately a result of my unaided  :angel: imagination ie I guess I must just be mad  wackoold.
Re offset sarking junctions - please could you deliver them to the Navitron warehouse in Oakham  :D
Oh almost forgot, perscriptio in manibus tabellariorum est  whistle




hmmmn? you left your prescription for vallium in the minibus? thought you were ranting a bit!
Chuck some black pudding in with the bacon doll;   ey up! it puts lead in yer pencil :D


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: KenB on April 15, 2008, 05:44:29 PM
NI, List,

Handy online Latin Translator here.

http://www.translation-guide.com/free_online_translators.php?from=English&to=Latin

Just inscribe the Latin phrase you want translating on a wax tablet or parchment scroll, ship to Rome and within 6 months you will get an almost incomprehensible answer by return messenger.

Regarding the original poll, from which this discussion has deteriorated, I always put the teabag in first and pour on boiling water.  I then remove the teabag, put it in the compost caddy, add the level teaspoon of sugar and then the milk.  Although purists will say this practice scalds the milk, I hate fishing teabags from mugs where someone has added the milk first.

If it coffee (instant), I add the milk first to the coffee powder and sugar and then add the water. This might make the coffee not dissolve for a while but it saves scalding the milk, which affects the final taste.



Ken


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: northern installer on April 15, 2008, 05:53:03 PM
TEABAGS :o us proper northerners all have bushey moustaches to filter out the tealeaves when drinking a PROPER cup of tea: take a 1 pint mug,well seasoned;add 2 spoons of tealeaves;pour on boiling water,if you own a saucer,put it over the top,if not,borrow the cats dish.Leave for 5 minutes;during this time you can apply first aid to the hand that held the cats dish;add a little milk,for best results,less than a week old,and 5 spoons of sugar NOW THATS A CUP OF TEA  ;D.......another cucumber sandwich vicar?


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: KenB on April 15, 2008, 06:23:22 PM
NI,

The concept of a "northerner" depends from where you come from. It's a matter of relative geographical locations.

For someone who spent a lot of his early life in central Scotland, does that still make me a namby-pamby southerner?  ;)


Ken


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: Ivan on April 15, 2008, 06:39:07 PM
That's a nice armaflex kettle - how did you get it to stick?


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: guydewdney on April 15, 2008, 07:43:36 PM
sticky backed armaflex... comes in rolls.... off fleabay... great for finishing off the install - and p***ing the missus off - aparantly thats 'a bloody fifty quid kettle, and now it looks like a pikey kettle' - I did ask her last night if I could insulate it  ::) and she said yes! hmmm - marital bliss.


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: northern installer on April 16, 2008, 12:05:01 AM
NI,

The concept of a "northerner" depends from where you come from. It's a matter of relative geographical locations.

For someone who spent a lot of his early life in central Scotland, does that still make me a namby-pamby southerner?  ;)


Ken
Ken,I think it is all relative,and and may be decided by things like putting the milk in first,or by living south of an arbitrary line drawn somewhere south of what the person what is drawing it lives.perhaps.


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: rob26440 on April 16, 2008, 08:44:41 AM
For us real coffee drinkers.  Daily routine, starting as early as possible:

1. Grind good quality beans.  Doesn't have to be the most expensive but definitely NOT DECAFFEINATED.
2. Use a decent coffee maker (i.e. not one with a hot plate and glass jar combination that burns the coffee) and a good paper filter.
3. Use filtered water.
4. Allow machine to do its stuff.
5. Pour coffee into a china cup/mug.
6. Drink and enjoy. (Do not taint palate with biscuits/other tasty goodies - have them separately.)
7. Have another cupful.
8. Repeat the process 6 to 8 times a day.  More if you wish! (Last cup around 23:00 hrs.)

NO MILK.  NO SUGAR.  JUST BLACK AND AS STRONG AS YOU CAN TAKE IT.

Wonderful.

Sleepless nights?  Never been a problem.  Sleep is annoying but necessary.  A decent sized bladder also helps.

Also enjoy just good, old-fashioned, plain/filtered cold water.

Tea?  Sorry - Can't stand the stuff.

Rob.


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: wyleu on April 16, 2008, 09:19:40 AM
tea total

That's one smite right there . >:(


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: ajstoneservices on April 16, 2008, 09:53:47 AM
Quote
That's one smite right there .



 :'(


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: rob26440 on April 16, 2008, 11:47:02 AM
Seems like an unfair smite to me.  I thought it was rather a good comment.  (Maybe I'll get smitten for siding with AJS)  Can we have a poll on whether or not AJS has been hard done by.  ::)


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: Eleanor on April 16, 2008, 11:54:24 AM
Ken

Nescio quid dicas  ::). Vah! Denuone latin loquebar? Me ineptum. Interdum modo elabitur  :P. Unitam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant  ;D

I have a terrible confession to make  :o I have in my possession a Swan Teasmade  wackoold. I even have two  wacko s so I can drink lots of tea without getting out of bed  ;). Note seamless return to thread subject  :angel:.

Must go, senito aliquos togatos contra me conspirare  wackoold. NI, where have you hidden my valium again?  >:(


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: northern installer on April 16, 2008, 11:58:53 AM

 I even have two  wacko s so I can drink lots of tea without getting out of bed   





Eleanor,isnt that a contradiction in terms?


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: Eleanor on April 16, 2008, 12:23:56 PM
Not a problem for me NI, I have a bedroom commode  :D. I am planning a camping holiday and am a bit concerned about the toilet privileges there so I have written to the campsite owner to see if they have a BC for me to use when I am there. I have received quite a worrying reply  ???


"Dear Madam:

I regret very much the delay in answering your letter, but I now take pleasure in informing you that a B.C. is located nine miles north of the campground and is capable of seating 250 people at the same time.

I admit that it is quite a distance away and if you are in the habit of going regularly it may seem too far, but, no doubt, you will make a day of it, and you might be pleased to know that a great number of people take their lunches along, so you won't feel alone, as they make a day of it, too.

They usually arrive early and stay late. The last time my wife and I went was six years ago and it was so crowded we had to stand up the whole time we were there.

It may interest you to know that right now there is a supper planned to raise money to buy more seats. They're going to hold it in the basement of the B.C.

If you decide to come to our campground, perhaps I could go with you the first time, sit with you, and introduce you to all the other folks.

Remember, this is a friendly community!"  


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: northern installer on April 16, 2008, 03:05:44 PM
hmmmn,it certainly beats the 'three seater' holes in a plank kludgy!


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: northern installer on April 16, 2008, 03:12:35 PM
Eleanor,I am somewhat puzzled by your last post,without wanting to go into intimate detail,how do you plan to target the commode without getting out of bed? ???


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: wyleu on April 16, 2008, 04:47:33 PM
What fresh hell is this ?


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: Eleanor on April 16, 2008, 10:21:38 PM
Lord Wyleu, you need to keep up with the plot, you can't just keep popping in and out smiting poor innocents  wackoold. What have you done with Bob, he has gone very quiet  :(. I am wondering if he has mixed up my valium and his little blue dibber seeds and is lying comatosed somewhere  :P
Eleanor,I am somewhat puzzled by your last post,without wanting to go into intimate detail,how do you plan to target the commode without getting out of bed? ???
NI,  ;)


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: northern installer on April 16, 2008, 11:08:23 PM
Eleanor, :-*


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: frotter on April 16, 2008, 11:29:24 PM
(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h81/Fr0tter/whatsthis.gif)




Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: wyleu on April 17, 2008, 11:42:27 AM
Scrote, yelped, then furtively glanced around.
He shook his hand in anticipation of the pain that the already revealed purple blister revealed, and glared accusatively at the wire strippers. It was the kind of slip he hated most and muttered his contempt for the tools of the trade. He examined the end of the wire, pronounced it good and squeezed it under the screw in the junction box. He closed up the box and headed for the door.
He braced himself, and twirled the catch on the watertight seal. The brief tear of the seal, already revealed the high pitched sqreech that came from the other side of the door. Scrote braced himself, closed the door behind him and started to scrabble down the tube.
There was an instant change in the noise, it took or are more menacing, deeper, purposeful edge, and the impacts on the mesh of the tube increased in ferocity.
He grasped the spinner on the door and nibberly slipped throu' and closed the door all in one movement.
You could feel the worry receed, even in the low red light of the engine room, and it only took a nod from Scrote for the room to swing into action, and quickly the angry red light was replaced by a bright yellowy white. A gentle hum rose to a low but confident purr and the 'room started sway to a forward motion.
Scrote exchanged a couple of glances and headed up the back step onto the backdeck, where a black cowled figure stood, calmly leaning in to the tiller.
She acknowledged Scrote but didn't take her eyes off the bridge ahead.
''Poor lad never stood a chance",
'He slipped?'
'Naaah not him...'
'That's,.... surprising, What does his Lordship think..?'
'Who knows??..', although I think he smells a rat...',
She sneared at the quip.
'Possibly a she-rat...',
'Scrote, tensed suddenly and whipped a knife across the gunwhal towards the bank. There was an accompaning squeak.
'The woman, took the time to look round but other than that showed little or no surprise.
'So she's back is she?'
'Looks like it'.
They noosed the boat into the lock and watched as three maidens leapt ablely ashore and worked the lock with breahtaking efficiency. Scrote' stepped ashore and waved with an utterly false smile at a twitching curtain at the lockkeeper's cottage. He walked up the lock and waited for the boat to rise.
'The woman looked up, blinking in the sun.
'Scrote,She'll be wanting the Tea run back...',
' Eye, that and others',
'You be careful, Scrote'
I will that Miss Melinda,...'
'And give my regards to his lordship...'
'Of Course'

Scrote without breaking his stride stepped across onto an identical boat heading down the opposite lock, and it's engine opened up as soon as he put his foot aboard.
'Melinda turned and shouted back,
'Enjoy the Rabbit...'.

Her crew stepped onto the backdeck as she crossed the threshold.
And the three looked up with a nervous anticipation,
'There is news',
'It would appear that Lady Eleanor has appeared from the fog again.
'The three flinched at the name,'
'All mine, All mine... murmured Melinda.
 



Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: Jonzjob on May 25, 2008, 04:47:27 PM
A quick question if I may Wyleu?

Have you been on the wacky backy?? ??? ???

As a matter of interest you can't make good tea if you are in an unpressurised aircraft at anything over 6000 feet. This is because the water 'boils' at below 100 dec C and will not disolve the vital elements in the tea leaves that release the flavour and caffine. And as for sugar. It should never go anywhere near tea or coffee!!

Talking of Tetleys, I prefer Josh to Walker Tetleys, but above that I much prefer better beers like Green King Abbot and Wadworth 6X. Tetleys isn't too bad, for a Northern beer and the only head that I like to see on my beer is mine  :police:. Mind you these daze I think that I prefer a nice refreshing glass of Ricard with 3 lumps of ice in it, one for the glass, one for the pernod and onr for France. That is the French tradition and you can leave one lump out in the winter and it doesn't matter which one it is  whistle !!


Title: Re: Milk or tea in first?
Post by: wyleu on May 25, 2008, 05:28:11 PM
Oh, the nefarious do-ings of the various wyleu alter ego's are many and varied... wacko

But I put it down to an over developed sense of whimsy, and if you don't understand the above piece then you really won't even begin to get your head round Tower Tales.

 ;D