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Title: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on March 12, 2014, 08:26:36 AM
This is the place for pet-related pics!


Here is Rodney (54kg Leonberger) with Stanley the cat

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/20140228_201942_zpsttus9vmr.jpg)

This is Rodney again, being extremely helpful with the dinner, Hari the Red Merle collie is in the background, no doubt waiting for me to throw a toy that is at my feet  ;D

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/20140223_194235_zpsczlu6134.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: camillitech on March 12, 2014, 08:43:24 AM
Wee fat dug Molly,

soaking up the PV weather yesterday.

(http://lifeattheendoftheroad.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/049_thumb.jpg?w=716&h=538)

 I don't usually get attached to our piglets for obvious reasons but I really had a soft spot for Tam

(http://lifeattheendoftheroad.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/040112027_thumb.jpg?w=476&h=634)

so did the 'wee dug'

(https://lifeattheendoftheroad.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/100112002_thumb.jpg?w=610&h=458)

had he survived I would have still eaten him right enough, but probably not with the usual relish  ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on March 12, 2014, 08:46:02 AM
Tims investigating the new vivarium

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/20140218_185243_zpsxpzcvhg6.jpg)

The viv with Monty the corn snake

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/20140306_173642_zps7win9grx.jpg)



The pack waiting for Charley (the better half) to prepare some food
Nessa, Maddy (lurcher/cross breed), Tinks, Hari and Norman (Bernese/Newfoundland cross, water rescue trained)

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/20140209_165205_zpswmzdwgyx.jpg)

7 Month old Nessa, 18 Month old Rodney, and Hari (left to right)

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/20140216_183824_zpsu5hxoohx.jpg)

a regular scene, Rodney, Nessa and Tinks the three 'bergers, Hari and another cat, Brian:

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/20140126_181455_zpsupf7btf9.jpg)

This beauty is Arthur Christmas, pretty but highly strung when it comes to the other cats

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/20140219_180736_zps8jtzfuzg.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on March 12, 2014, 08:47:46 AM
ha ha nice piglet Cam, yum yum  ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on March 12, 2014, 09:00:38 AM
G/B,
      You mean a Navizoo, I never seen a long thin dog like that with no legs,






 the brown one behind the glass.
                                            Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on March 12, 2014, 09:01:42 AM
G/B,
      You mean a Navizoo, I never seen a long thin dog like that with no legs,

 the brown one behind the glass.
                                            Biff

Ha ha! I've had him over 7 years now! He's actually the only pet that's mine


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Ted on March 12, 2014, 09:31:39 AM

(https://lifeattheendoftheroad.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/100112002_thumb.jpg?w=610&h=458)


So that's what they mean by 'pigs in blankets'.

We are, for the first time in over 20 years, completely without any pets at the moment.  After a series of rescue dogs and then our own from a pup we are taking a break after having had to say goodbye to Sasha (German Shepherd) last month.



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: martin on March 12, 2014, 09:42:34 AM
Here's our hooligans -

(http://solarwind.org.uk/portrait.jpg)

and young Millie
(http://solarwind.org.uk/millieball.jpg)

and a couple of our bantams
(http://solarwind.org.uk/chookint1.jpg)

On the subject of losing dogs, I've come to the conclusion that there's only one cure - somewhere out there is a dog in a rescue centre who is lonely and frightened, who needs the care only you can give it - it won't replace the one you've lost, but they help heal the pain - I lost this chap a couple of years ago (early sudden onset heart problems), and was utterly devastated
(http://solarwind.org.uk/nip.jpg)
Within a couple of days I found myself looking at the local dog rescue websites, and "just went for a look round" Raystede, and fell head-over-heels for Rosie the staffie in the top picture - just a few weeks later, my mum's dog who'd been living with us died after a short illness, and after couple of weeks Roo (the Jack Russell) joined us (a local rescue centre has a vanload come over from Ireland every few weeks, and he was on it). The lab is my daughter's, but she's been living with us as she proved too much for her with a toddler as well!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: clockmanFR on March 12, 2014, 09:47:32 AM
The Legs on the first telly look good, standing in Biffs new luxury Bedroom next to the little chest of wardrobes.  ;D

I say, what fluffed up cats, they look so beautifully.  :genuflect  Our lot, muddy, wet, fighting with the local wild farm cats etc.

Gosh a Glass of white wine. ! Thanks.

GB, I love the heated blanket controls on that bed.

Paul, Concrete blocks, 'cor' solid concrete blocks, just hollow jobs here.
Off to Brico depot, 50 mins away, with my trusty IFOR Williams trailer for some pallets of Beton Cellulaire, (Thermal Blocks). Mrs CM has designed the down stairs bathroom by using her heel on my recently laid drying concrete where she wants the walls. argh!
The Shower she wants is huge, "Ere, get the shower tray's first", Another bathroom upstairs, I Said, "then I can build the thermal block walls".  

Martin, I am shocked, !!!!!
Stained glass windows in the chicken shed, next you will be installing warm water shower facilities.   

 




Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: martin on March 12, 2014, 09:50:52 AM
I did a "Grand Designs" mickey take of it - http://organnyx.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/the-beginnings/#more-5 (http://organnyx.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/the-beginnings/#more-5) ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on March 12, 2014, 09:54:34 AM
The Legs on the first telly look good, standing in Biffs new luxury Bedroom next to the little chest of wardrobes.  ;D

I say, what fluffed up cats, they look so beautifully.  :genuflect  Our lot, muddy, wet, fighting with the local wild farm cats etc.

Yes we have 3 fluff balls and one short hair  :P

Quote

GB, I love the heated blanket controls on that bed.



HOW VERY DARE YOU!  ;D ;D
It's actually a lamp that has been put on the bed, this is now the spare room and as such things are all over the bed.
'She' was using a heated blanket when i first met her, it's gone now, she's got me  :P


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: clockmanFR on March 12, 2014, 10:02:07 AM
Bravo GB, way to go. !     :genuflect  exhappy:


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on March 12, 2014, 10:08:01 AM
On an energy saving and pet related note, i just fitted a cat flap/tunnel through the wall, because she just left the window open all year round in the downstairs loo to let the cats come and go away from the dogs!!!

 wackoold wackoold


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: clockmanFR on March 12, 2014, 10:15:14 AM
1. Kiwi, (A French Rescue Cat  facepalm) "nope, feed me first or you can not read the paper".

2. Gizi, (another French rescue cat), Warning! bigger chair required.

3. Kitty, (semi wild Farm cat and lives in the barn, Biff says its priceless as its a Scottish wild cat). Kitty rounding up, or being round up by the GAL's. Because of Fox problems, the local hunt is useless as they keep shooting each other  facepalm,  and I can not walk around with a loaded pistol, I only let the Gals out when I am outside, so at present doing 200 meters of sheep fencing on one of our hedge boundary's.   Not good when your chucks are wiped out by a drive by Fox in broad daylight in front of my boys.

4. Sheep not really pets, but we only keep 6 breeding females, but they do like the shade of the trackers.
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: martin on March 12, 2014, 10:41:30 AM
ps, to anyone looking for a dog - do give a thought for staffies - down the years we've had a long procession of dogs, mixes of all sorts, labs, spaniels, Jack Russells,, but can honestly say that Rosie the staffie is something extra special - a gentle but ebullient dog who is wonderful with my grandson (well deserving of the title "nanny dog") - the rescue centres are awash with them - don't dismiss them as "devil dogs", they really aren't (a few decades ago, GSDs suffered the same bad press)

from the Torygraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1481214/Adolf-the-devil-dog-now-known-as-Bundles.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1481214/Adolf-the-devil-dog-now-known-as-Bundles.html)

"Adolf the devil-dog (now known as Bundles)

"Staffordshire bull terriers now outnumber every other breed at Battersea Dogs Home. Sam Leith went to meet Rambo and Jaws - and discovered that their fierce reputation is undeserved

"Give a dog a bad name..." runs the pessimistic old saw, "and hang him." If that were so, you would have to regard with gloom the chances of safely and successfully "rehoming" the 53 Staffordshire bull terriers currently abiding - stray, rescued, or given up - in Battersea Dogs Home.

Such a collection of names, there are, as would furnish the royal fancy dress party to end all royal fancy dress parties.

In the past six months, Battersea has welcomed a Rommel, an Adolf, two Gunners, four Bruisers and a pair of Bullies - all of whom seem ripe for renaming "Harry". There were, in addition, 11 Staffies called Tyson, six called Storm, five called Sabre, four called Rambo, one called Thunder and another called Venom.

Many of us will extrapolate back to wonder, not without a titter, at the unoriginality of the macho types who took on, and then in short order abandoned, these creatures between, on average, the boisterous ages of a year and 18 months.

For those at Battersea, however, the volume of Staffies - 33 in just the past two weeks - presents a serious problem. "One of the first things we do," says Wendy Henry, a former tabloid newspaper editor who has since been successfully retrained as a dog socialiser, "is re-name them if they've got names like that".

The above-mentioned are among those who currently rejoice in the following, more innocuous monikers: Bobster, Bono, Bozo, Bubbles, Cheeky, Cookie, Cuddles, Curry, Duffy, Fudge, Google, Gus, Grape, Hopper, Hopkirk, Izzy, Jimbo, Jonty, Kezzie, Kiss, Lillo, Lolly, Midnight, Munchie, Mush, Mustard, Peanut, Pongo, Prince Charlie, Radish, Ringo, Romeo, Sage, Savvy, Scooby, Snoop, Sky, Sooty, Splodge, Strawberry, Sugar, Sweet Pea, Tigger, Tiny Tot, Tosh, and Zebedee.

There's no such thing as a bad dog, is the mantra there: there's only a bad owner. And Staffies are the first breed to outnumber mongrels in terms of admissions to the home - with 1,355 arriving during 2003.

Ali Taylor, the head of behaviour at Battersea and one of those in the forefront of preparing the dogs for rehoming, says the figures are partly attributable to owners who have found the dogs too much of a handful.

But, equally, there are those who have found Staffies not enough of a handful.

The popularity of the breed, unfortunately, seems at least in a minority of cases to have something to do the idea that they are just the sort of vicious, baby-chewing brutes that would look good at one end of a chain wrapped around a tattooed fist. According to Ms Taylor, they aren't like that at all - and the epidemic of abandonments reflects that disappointment.

"Your biggest risk with a Staffie," she says, "is getting licked to death. They are very energetic and very attention-seeking. The biggest problem we hear on our Behaviour Hotline about Staffies is insecurity. They get called `The Nanny Dog' because they are so good with children."

Miss Henry tells the story of one dog, Harold, that lived wild on a patch of wasteland for four years after being stolen and then abandoned. A kindly local kept an eye on him and - when Harold's mange reached a level that needed urgent treatment - brought him in to the home.

They discovered that Harold had been micro-chipped - and his owners, who had contacted the home weekly for the first 18 months of his absence, were able to reclaim him. "When they appeared Harold went absolutely mad with joy," says Miss Henry.

Sociable creatures, Staffies suffer in a kennel environment, but have a forgiving nature. Training - or, for those in the "rehab" programme for behavioural difficulties, therapy - is a matter of finding out what pushes the dog's buttons. Some, like behaviourist Emma Freeman's dog Budleigh (formerly "Jaws") are "food-oriented"; others respond to toys.

The name-change can be achieved, Miss Taylor claims, in "probably a day if you've got a packet of Schmackos". "Dog treats," interjects Battersea's press officer.

Now, this reporter does not know one dog from another. And is a devout coward. But introduced to six-month-old Adolf - a white-and-brindled Staffie now called Bundles who is being assessed for rehoming - I can't truthfully claim to have been intimidated.

The devil-dog's head - as its PR advisers brought it in to be interviewed - rotated through 360 degrees in the manner of Linda Blair in The Exorcist, but only because it was so ludicrously overexcited. It neither bit off my ear nor yelled at me. In fact, it was revoltingly soppy. That seems to be borne out by the record. Despite the high proportion of the breed at Battersea, out of 27 bites to humans reported in the previous year, only one was from a Staffordshire bull terrier.

I sustained only one injury on the evening I encountered Adolf. It was when I got home and my cat, Satan (formerly Henry), galloped the full length of the room and jumped into my face with all her claws out.

I bled like a stuck pig. Anyone want to adopt a mog?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on March 12, 2014, 10:46:55 AM
My only experience with Staffies have been good ones, playful and enjoyable animals.
My vet g/f concurs, if they've not been bred/raised by idiots

I would definitely not hesitate to own one, dependent on temperament :)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: grevls on March 12, 2014, 10:55:42 AM
Wahl & Digby, the navi-dogs in the creche outside the office.

(http://s22.postimg.org/p08pry3p9/385974_679082384167_799573900_n.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/p08pry3p9/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: martin on March 12, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
That's a fine pair of upstanding lugholes! ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on March 12, 2014, 12:46:00 PM


Anyhow   , this year ,  like most of my past years  , frogs seem to love me  

Here are my Navipets    


(http://s3.postimg.org/u3yxeyfcv/frog.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/u3yxeyfcv/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Bodidly on March 12, 2014, 01:00:20 PM


Anyhow   , this year ,  like most of my past years  , frogs seem to love me  

Here are my Navipets    


(http://s3.postimg.org/u3yxeyfcv/frog.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/u3yxeyfcv/)


There is something else in there but I quite make out as so small. Ah yes it's my-newt


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: regen on March 12, 2014, 02:14:19 PM
After 30 years of jack russels we decided to have a change nd opted for borders and they are great. Bonnie is ours, millies belongs next door and jess is daughters.

Regen
(http://s16.postimg.org/wm9k0zarl/3_X2_T2655_terrier_racing_m_and_b_race_3.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/wm9k0zarl/)

(http://s10.postimg.org/60zl7zxo5/100253_Border_terrier_walking_through_snow.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/60zl7zxo5/)

(http://s30.postimg.org/izltc3mjh/bonnie_and_millie_playing.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/izltc3mjh/)

(http://s29.postimg.org/7xkhzk16r/jess.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/7xkhzk16r/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on March 12, 2014, 02:28:37 PM
Wow Regen,
           Your first pic of the terriers running side by side is a classic straight out of a Mabel Lucy Atwell book. You should enter that pic for a photo contest. Its got the action, The energy, The mischief with the flashing eyes and above all,incredible happiness.It is an incredible shot. I wonder what Martin thinks of it.
                                                                                              Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on March 12, 2014, 03:17:14 PM
Quote
There is something else in there but I quite make out as so small. Ah yes it's my-newt


wow ,  what a good eye , could be Newts  all-right
 I admire them

We have plenty  , and they seem to love  Micro hydro schemes ,.... sexy beach party  picture is not from me place !

(http://www.realscience.org.uk/pics/newtST_468x327.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: dhaslam on March 12, 2014, 05:21:58 PM
More watery creatures, not as minute as they seem.

(http://www.pbase.com/dhaslam/image/150492399/large.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on March 12, 2014, 06:56:55 PM
This is a selection of our lot the cats have already made their appearance,
Elliott sheepdog failed .Needed a home.
(http://s9.postimg.org/xhazh4ykb/P1030148.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xhazh4ykb/)
Comfort, a wallie half collie, half wolf, mother of very loose morals her dad was a wolf that passed in the night. No where to go
(http://s28.postimg.org/56vn2q1ah/P1060970.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/56vn2q1ah/)
Tod the dog,abandoned in Avignon
(http://s7.postimg.org/9hyzjyegn/P1030547.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9hyzjyegn/)

Priscilla a gander named after MrsT's mum.
(http://s29.postimg.org/4j1jfa9dv/P1030542.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4j1jfa9dv/)

Indian runners
(http://s27.postimg.org/jyt3j4ibj/P1030545.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/jyt3j4ibj/)
Found this one abandoned over 20 years ago in London a lovely temperament but never fully house trained.
(http://s28.postimg.org/6sxvr8ufd/P1030521.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6sxvr8ufd/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: smegal on March 12, 2014, 09:05:54 PM
Our dog, Oreo.

(http://hogwheels.co.uk/Personal/2014-03-03%2000.38.21.jpg)

(http://hogwheels.co.uk/Personal/2014-03-03%2000.38.05.jpg)

My African Pygmy Hedgehog, Bandit.

(http://hogwheels.co.uk/Personal/2014-01-26%2019.45.27.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on March 12, 2014, 10:00:08 PM
Our current clowder of cats have made a few appearances already, but here are a couple of pets we still miss. Dexter the dog, whom I utterly adored but we only fostered him for 3 months till he went to become a sniffer dog. He was very highly strung, and needed a job. And Susie cat, who's love for Dexter was only beaten by her love for chasing squirrels out of our garden and back into the park, one quiet road away. But even quiet roads are dangerous to distracted squirrel hating cats.


(http://s29.postimg.org/fwfftgb2b/IMG_0434.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/fwfftgb2b/)

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: clockmanFR on March 12, 2014, 10:05:52 PM
Crikey Smegal, I think I have had to much Gin in my Gin and Tonic, hic.  :P


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: smegal on March 12, 2014, 10:15:48 PM
Crikey Smegal, I think I have had to much Gin in my Gin and Tonic, hic.  :P

I'm not sure what's happened to the pictures. They were fine until I turned them the correct way up. I've resized them, let's see if that fixes them.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: martin on March 13, 2014, 12:10:14 AM
Had a tweak of Smegal's pics - think the proportions are right now! One day I will meet a Dalmation called "Dotty" ;D
Lovely dogs - move beautifully - a young lass brought hers along to the local dog training class, and did wonders with it with sign language as the dog was deaf!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on March 13, 2014, 07:41:34 AM
Great pic of the pair Mart!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on March 13, 2014, 08:10:22 AM
Hi Smegal

(http://hogwheels.co.uk/Personal/2014-01-26%2019.45.27.jpg)

This Punk is very cute , they love Eggs (i am sure u know this )



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on March 13, 2014, 05:19:30 PM
Must be a breed fault with dalmatians Martin, had a friend with a deaf one as well lovely dog but daft as a brush. ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on March 13, 2014, 06:23:11 PM
It is a breed fault Tod,
                     For a period of 10 years from the 1980s ,almost 50% of the pups were born deaf,so they set about trying to cure it but selective breeding and introducing new bloodlines.Some strains of Dalmations in west Mayo were used for poaching salmon from the rivers.They could dive clean off the river banks,land on the salmon under the water,grab it in their mouth and swim for the bank where the owner was waiting.These Mayo Dalmations became kind of heros when the baliffs decided to raid the guys van and where the salmon were stored,only to be attacked by another Dalmation while the owner got in and drove away calling the dogs after him.I believe the case was heard in Claremoris but I am not sure.However both the the dog owner and his solicitor turned up in court half shot and got fined for poaching.You can understand the rush to aquire one of these dogs at the time, ;D
   The dog owner was a little small man in his 50s with a flat cap and a very shifty look but it was a great laugh at the time.There was a picture in the national papers of this characters 3 dogs. They were very big and powerfull and they were pedigrees into the bargain. Something tells me that this would actually be the original breed,which was a dog that had special ways with horses,slept in the stables with them,guarding them,then guarding their coach en route.The original breed,s pee gave off a very strong smell of ammonia.These were not pets but hard working dogs that earned their keep.
  Deafness only crept into the breed when the breeders decided to try and breed out the characteristics of the working strain and have a dopey mutt for crufts.
  And a lot of the modern breed are born with ADDs.  daft, and take maybe 3 years to settle down if ever which is a terrible pity.
                                                                                                  Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: smegal on March 13, 2014, 06:56:06 PM
Must be a breed fault with dalmatians Martin, had a friend with a deaf one as well lovely dog but daft as a brush. ;D


It is. Breeders should test all puppies in the litters. If they are deaf or deaf in one ear, they shouldn't be bred.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on March 13, 2014, 07:58:53 PM
Silly bit of info, but I remember an interview with the dog team that worked on 101 Dalmatians. They were so concerned about creating a breeding rush, particularly with the hearing issues, that when they announced the need for puppies, they set the time period deliberately too short (close to filming) so as to make sure that the dogs were already born, or on the way.

My neighbours dog is a Dalmatian+ (there's a little bit of something else in there). He's a lovely dog, but slightly racist ..... he hates brown labs, but only brown ones, white, yellow and black are fine. Go figure!

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: smegal on March 14, 2014, 11:28:32 PM
Another strange thing with dalmatians is the smile that they do. Here is a picture (from google) of a dalmatian smiling:

(http://static.knittingparadise.com/upload/2013/10/1/thumb-1380629797017-009.jpg)

Do other breeds do this?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Bodidly on March 15, 2014, 07:33:18 AM
Another strange thing with dalmatians is the smile that they do. Here is a picture (from google) of a dalmatian smiling:

(http://static.knittingparadise.com/upload/2013/10/1/thumb-1380629797017-009.jpg)

Do other breeds do this?

Mmmm

Are you sure that's smiling? I have seen dogs make this face but it's shortly followed by them plunging it's teeth into you  ;)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: smegal on March 15, 2014, 07:53:35 AM
Another strange thing with dalmatians is the smile that they do. Here is a picture (from google)

Do other breeds do this?

Mmmm

Are you sure that's smiling? I have seen dogs make this face but it's shortly followed by them plunging it's teeth into you  ;)

it really is.  It's the strangest thing. Our dog only does it when you first see her,  it's weird seeing this dog wagging it's tail making a face like that.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on March 15, 2014, 08:01:54 AM
Morning Smegal,
                 That smile is part of the Biths submissive language often when the Bith is in heat and yes you do get it in other dogs especially border collies and cocker spaniels.I have no idea why this should be.Those breeds have no real breeding link to one another.I always thought that it was a nervous confused signal. It usually happens in younger dogs because once a dominant owners sees it they disapprove and get uptight,The dogs can feel this and after a while will refrain from doing it(they get tired of getting thrown outside ;D).The Bith also uses this language when meeting a very power male dog that she likes and will bare the teeth while licking the dogs lower jaw.You could say that some humans have exactly the same idea but they actually bite.Hence those nasty horrible marks on necks and others places of young loves
                                 Biff.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on March 15, 2014, 08:12:30 AM
Smegal,
        If you get time,you could dig out a copy of Konrad Lorenz,s "Man Meets Dog". Most facial expressions are in there.
                                                                Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: smegal on March 15, 2014, 08:23:55 AM
Thanks for the explanation, Biff. I'd never. see. anything like it before. 

I'll see if I can find a copy of that book.

here is a video that I just recorded if oreo. as you can see, she is excitable when she first sees you.

http://youtu.be/VivMIC6RmSk (http://youtu.be/VivMIC6RmSk)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on March 15, 2014, 03:41:37 PM
Nice vid Smegal.

Tod the dog does it if you scratch his bum, bared teeth and happy little grunts.
However the same facial expression but a deeper growl  in 'this is mine feck off'.
Can be a bit confusing, us not him.
He is an ex-street dog  so if he gets stroppy or possisive he is just gently put in his place.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on April 26, 2014, 05:38:37 PM
The latest addition...

Count Felix "Diabeto"  the diabetic cat, we've decided to home this cat and try to fix him

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/20140426_100344_zpss5zrm4dt.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on April 26, 2014, 07:29:57 PM
Love him already GB, good on you ,and your best beloved.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on April 26, 2014, 09:30:05 PM
Hiya Greenbeast, what a pretty boy ..... the cat too!

Have you had a diabetic animal before? Can you do your own glucose checks at home, and maybe a glucose curve every now and then? Happy to share tips, if I'm not teaching you to suck eggs.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on April 26, 2014, 09:58:55 PM
Thanks very much, the girl is a vet :-)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on April 26, 2014, 10:15:59 PM
Thanks very much, the girl is a vet :-)

In that case, any tips for me?  ;D

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on April 28, 2014, 07:44:44 AM
Thanks very much, the girl is a vet :-)

In that case, any tips for me?  ;D

Mart.


Ha ha, we'll see!
Going to transition him to a raw diet, i'll let you know how it goes


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on April 28, 2014, 01:25:18 PM
Trexie (chief indoor rodent control officer) is at the vets on a drip!
Noticed she was a bit off colour and did not eat
Next day she sicked up a fur ball still did not eat
Day 3 no food no water
Day 4 vets, no temperature, no obvious pain . Tried prawns, tuna, chicken, stuff in a tin the vet reckons all cats love,raw and cooked sardine,cheese, warm milk. Nothing, run up to her bowl look sniff and walk off .
Day 5 starting to get quite concerned, back to the vets Trex now listless, and dehydrated, so on a drip and really  p. Issed off cat .  This is now Sunday,
Today stabilised and blood test taken off to the lab we should hopefully get some results by close of play today.  Still on her drip.
Any thoughts folk?


(http://s14.postimg.org/s9lhr6nu5/P1060924.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/s9lhr6nu5/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: julian on April 28, 2014, 03:02:10 PM
Vets, and IV drips : (

Our hound went to the vets every day last week, inc the bank holiday monday, culminating in a couple of days on a drip.
He is back now, and getting better, but that was another case of noone really knowing (at the start) what was causing it.

He would lie on the sofa till about 3pm, at which point id consider it was probably long past toilet time - id lift him off, and he would just stand there, looking confused, and shaking slightly.

Its grim not knowing, and my sympathy is with you.

Not the best of photos, but he's alive again now, and we're so pleased to have him back - 

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y500/julianfincham/10270587_10152398318327065_6099160461732332628_n_zps747a1b68.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on April 28, 2014, 04:38:03 PM
 Hi Tod,
 Very sorry to hear about your cat.Most ratters live a charmed life but biting into a rat that has been eating poison can make any cat very ill, They lick the blood which is highly concentrated,Even a lot of old terriers die this way,instead of building up a tolerance to the poison,it stays in their system and builds up over time.Going on the drip is a good way to flush out the system
       

I am sorry to hear your about your dog Julian,
                                From what you have said,it sounds very like chocolate poisoning. Stands looking confused and shaking slightly, (In shock) Very few people realise how toxic Chocolate is to our canine friends,Some chocolates are worse than others and some dogs can withstand more than others before going into shock. One whole bar of dark chocolate is enough to make a medium sized dog quite ill. For some reason the older breeds like Spitzs,Chows or Akitas will vomit up chocolate or peanut butter immediately they eat it by mistake. You would have spotted Warfarin poisoning ,with the bloodshot eyes and blood dripping from his tackle and the Vet would have soused that immediately and put Vit K in his drip.
      Some dogs (escape artists) can get very ill chewing through the bottom of a door that has been treated with red lead oxide,  But the standing still ,looking confused and having little tremors pass over him sounds very like Chocolate,
                                          Biff
     


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: talisman on April 28, 2014, 04:54:08 PM
Biff

Many thanks for the info, I knew that chocolate was poisonous but I did not know what the signs were .... Now that I know means action can be taken much sooner, so thank you.

I also know that raisins and grapes are poisonous to dogs, My Paterdale is for ever waiting for one to drop on the floor ..... you can leave a plate of chips on the floor and he will not touch it unless he was told its ok ... but a grape, now thats a different story


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: desperate on April 28, 2014, 05:24:31 PM
Hallo Tod, our fingers are crossed for your cat. :crossed

 We had a cat a few years ago that succumbed to poisoning :(   the vet thought it could be anti-freeze, he said the cat was very dehydrated and put him on a drip and gave us a tip. He said if our cats ever looked off colour or listless  to pinch a small fold of skin above the shoulder gently and lift it a little. If the skin does not return quite rapidly to its normal position it would indicate that the cat was dehydrated and sick and something should be done. He suggested trying all the cats favourite drinks to see if it would drink, but not to delay seeing the vet if it would not drink for more than a day.

Desp


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: julian on April 28, 2014, 06:14:10 PM


I am sorry to hear your about your dog Julian...
                       

He was in at the Vets the thursday before last for a routing op and went down hill after.  The only day he seemed more perky was the day he wouldnt eat his meds - we only put 2+2 together later...

His symptoms matched those written on the "possible side effects" perfectly, except for that he had a temperature also.

This was aggravated by the vet hitting "2" on the keyboard, when they should have hit "1", when printing off the dosing.

So, basically, all week, he was getting double dose of a pain killer that he may have been sensitive to at normal doses.  We, of course, feel terrible, as, effectively, we were (at the vets command) poisoning him : (

He has had all the kidney and liver tests, and nothing bad is showing, and he is getting back to his old self again.  We are just so happy to have him back that the stress of last week is being eclipsed.


Thank you for your comments on the chocolate, but, in this case, the culprit was found - but, yes, poisoning it was : (



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on April 28, 2014, 06:42:39 PM
Tod, no advice or suggestions, but my best wishes, hope Trexie feels better soon.

Now for the bad news, looking at that photo, and sorry to break this news, but I'm pretty sure the cat on the right is stuffed!

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on April 28, 2014, 08:06:49 PM
Thanks chaps.

A bit better news tonight, blood results back nothing showing apart from dehydration. She is still on the drip, but has actually eaten something for the first time in a week. Fingers very firmly crossed she is on the mend, but she is mighty angry.

Julian thoughts are with you, it is the feeling of complete helplessness.

Mart, tea cosy really , my cat disguise hat.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on April 29, 2014, 05:29:27 PM
The little princess has returned home.  Now eating which is really good news. Looks a bit bizzare with shaved patches where the tubes and needles were stuck in, vets in Pleyben were fabulous. No one has any idea what went wrong, so hopefully mended.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: desperate on April 29, 2014, 05:36:11 PM
Good news Tod, a  relief all round, I am always amazed at how quickly some animals recover from what looks like a really serious illness, wish I was the same ;D

Desp


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on April 29, 2014, 06:51:12 PM
Desp,  Thanks, Mrs T and I were completely stressed out, amazing how the smallest creature can so dominate the house.
How about a few days R&R in Finistere if required?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: julian on April 29, 2014, 07:18:40 PM
Happy endings : )

We were amazed at how empty the place felt without a whippet following our every move.

(they make out they're telepathic - you decide to go to another room in the house, and, when you arrive, the whippet is there waiting for you - you nip back, thinking you might actually get a go on the sofa, and... there's a whippet there waiting for you!)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: desperate on April 29, 2014, 08:11:31 PM
Good stuff Julian, I do like a happy ending, :)

Sometimes I think "pets" do this to us just to make sure the "staff" are  paying attention, it's a kind of regular appraisal.

I hope you passed the test :crossed

Desp


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on April 30, 2014, 08:57:03 AM
It must be some sort of multiverse, experience the same thing weeding in one poly tunnel collie dozing in the heat. MrsT  planting up in the other poly tunnel,  comes in saying that the collie has been sleeping next to her.
Desp  you are the only person who 'gets' quantum mechanics on here is there an explanation?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: desperate on April 30, 2014, 05:39:01 PM
Tod,

I have a feeling that this is an extension of Schrodingers dead/live cat in a box theory.

The box is substituted for a tin opener in my theory. You know how cats and dogs can be asleep so deep that they are in effect dead to the world, no amount of persuasion rouses them from slumber, but you only have to make a miniscule movement toward the kitchen draw containing a tin opener and they are almost instantly around the food bowls, it almost violates the causality laws.
Further evidence was provided by Jasper, our big stripey cat, he would be asleep on the wheel of my van, if I clicked the tin opener on a can of his favourite chum he was there in less time than it would take for the sound to reach his ears.

The only conclusion possible is that some animals can indeed be here and there at the same time, particularly when food is involved. Our next cat may well be called Photon!

Desp


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on April 30, 2014, 06:10:40 PM
This is all very advanced thinking,
                             Way clean above my head,However,Our Nat who looks like a large heavy log with four little branches sticking straight outwith a couple of inches of pink tongue,will lie there
        without a move,,hour after hour and like desp says,the merest touch of a hand on her dish and she will twirl upright like Kung-fu,sniff the air and try guess. If it is just ordinary good nuts,she will sag back on the floor like a wounded bull,but if it is chopped chicken or steak with a dash of Bisto,Her little feet,go all twirly.
        How she knows what is being made ready for her dinner is a mystery ,even before I pick up her dish.She will drum on the floor.
   I have considered perhaps getting her dinner ready but not putting the goodies in it,But even I could not be as heartless as that :hysteria.
        They have me well figured out.
                                  Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: martin on April 30, 2014, 06:48:38 PM
Young Roo, blissed out in the sun this afternoon, dreaming of Schrodinger's cat, (or in fact, any cat, rabbit, rat or bird daft enough to get within distance of a remarkably swift Jack Russell) ;D



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: julian on April 30, 2014, 06:55:32 PM
My partner was looking at one of those internet league tables the other day (quickest dog breeds) - dont know how accurate it was, but i think it had russels at about #6 or somthing.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on April 30, 2014, 07:02:28 PM
Thanks Desp, for your straightforward explanation, string and tin opener theory, the first time I have ever read such a lucid explanation !! ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on June 13, 2014, 10:53:08 AM
It can't be much fun working in a fur coat during this hot weather and so I'm back to full-frontal spraying every couple of hours for the collies. They go berserk for the spray head and it's a job to stop them choking on a noseful whilst avoiding my hand becoming part of a meat sandwich. The trick is to spray above the head to make them rise up and then give full blast under the chest.
To me it's one of the most delightful things to see an overheated dog stand up to its chest in water whilst lapping same.
My collies are both predominantly black and yet one will find the shade whilst the other lays in full sun.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 13, 2014, 11:32:19 AM
    Reminds me of Our Rex,
                        My boyhood pal,Half cocker and half collie, He used to tag along with us when we went swimming in the river.In one large swimming hole there was a massive rock in the middle about the size of a piano,We used it for diving off.When things went quiet and we were drying off,he would swim out to the rock which was about a foot below the surface,crouch down in the water on top of it and wait for the swallow to skim the surface,Then he would leap into the air and try and nab them. The swallows were on to him immediately and would tease the life out of him.He would still lie there in the water,just his nose showing and his spaniel,s ears floating about like debris. He should have got something for his efforts but he never did. He also never gave up trying either.
   It only occurred to me many years later that maybe he was only playing. He loved the water just as much as we did.
                                                                                                                      Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: knighty on June 13, 2014, 03:50:55 PM
one of my parents German Shepards runs around so much he overheats even in the dead of winter
(a lot of the time he's running after my nephew on his ebike at 20+mph so that probably explains most of it)

after a lot run/walk he'll jump his front end up and come down with both paws on a frozen puddle to break the ice, and then he'll lie down in the puddle happy as larry


I've always wondered if it come from an instinct to break the ice to take a drink ?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 13, 2014, 07:09:12 PM
It is to take a drink Knighty,
                             The wolf leaps straight up and comes down with his 4 paws tight together in a point and usually gets a result after 2 or 3 tries. They can tell how much force is needed. I have seen dogs do exactly the same,even 4 legged Biff used to practice this move when he was very young.
       It is also a generous playful courtship ploy "would you like a drink dear,Here we are" (perhaps the origins of "breaking the Ice")
    I always imagine that the Dog or Wolf that does this,is confident and happy,in fine fettle and up for a  good game or a hunt.
                                                                       Biff
                                                           


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on October 16, 2014, 01:51:06 PM

(http://s28.postimg.org/bxcbgg589/Dog_bone_009.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/bxcbgg589/)

Here's a contented scene of Bryn getting stuck into a cooked cow knee and his girlfriend Moll sleeping beside him. However, a theft is being planned. Their master has already sawn off a section of bone for Moll, placed it in front of her and she has shown no interest in it. Once master was out of sight she went off and buried it!
Now she is plotting to do the same with the big end. All it takes is patience. Bryn will go for a pee, or to bark at a passer-by and, during the distraction, the rest of the bone will be carried off and buried.
I have no idea whether they ever re-surface.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on October 16, 2014, 08:05:24 PM
ours get raw cow bones, they are always pleased to receive them, and we are pleased for the peace and quiet  ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: desperate on October 16, 2014, 08:50:51 PM
Cow bones cow bones? COW BONES?  that's awfully close to cow pie!  just you watch it Mr GB ;)

Desp


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 17, 2014, 07:24:07 AM
With your lot GB must be nearly a whole cow!
Stann they will resurface, usually in a patch of grass, you find them with the blades of your mower. :hysteria


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on November 24, 2014, 04:04:25 PM
Just a quick pic of Flash (the feral feline) now that he's been with us for 6 months. Still going well, though there have been a few surprises, notably finding a large squirrel (deceased) proudly left one morning in the conservatory. Given that his nickname is 'no neck' as he's so solidly built, how he got it in through the catflap with him, will remain a mystery.

(http://s29.postimg.org/ucei634kj/IMG_1722.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ucei634kj/)


Just for a laugh, here's another Daily Mail article on devious foreigners doing anything it takes to get into Europe (or is it?)

Stray dog who raced 430 miles to a better home (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2846228/Meet-Arthur-stray-dog-followed-extreme-sports-team-grueling-430-mile-race-Amazon-rainforest-refused-leave-finish.html)

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: JR on November 24, 2014, 09:21:50 PM
My dear cat Beauty who turned up as a stray - had her for 9 years until she sadly passed away.

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af78/Jill_053/beautgard004-Copy_zps6a17d63b.jpg)

A birds eye view of Beauty, as snug as a bug!

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af78/Jill_053/beautles009_zpsabbdd6de.jpg)

The same year found Pretty Boy on the washing line - 2 years later he passed away.

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af78/Jill_053/budgiejune08015_zps5f16f26d.jpg)

Good Boy now 5 years old - bless.

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af78/Jill_053/24august09036.jpg)











Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Billy on November 27, 2014, 09:49:07 AM
Mrs B got a friend in this summer to keep her company while I was away.  Trouble is he's not moved out.


(http://s12.postimg.org/bpt9xy6qx/Chin_Chin_1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/bpt9xy6qx/)


A far cry from the long gone duo of Collies.   ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on November 27, 2014, 09:51:53 AM
saddle  back    :)


Parma the pig  now bigger , to carry billi  jr   ....  and managed to destroy  all lawns ....



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: martin on November 27, 2014, 09:57:30 AM
Billy, is he like many dogs of his ilk -"body like a bog brush, heart of a lion?"


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 27, 2014, 10:19:06 AM
(http://s7.postimg.org/txqj0l8cn/DSCF9071.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/txqj0l8cn/)

She has lost a bit of weight since then and he has put it on, She is the naughty one,who would act deaf and ignore your commands if she felt like it. So it is necessary to boss her at times. He is a big sensitive,considerate bundle of fun who tries to do everything right and who enjoys nothing more than creeping around the jungle with David Attenborough.The creepy music makes him sit up and pay attention. He knows all the adds with dogs on them and is ready for them before they show up. He used to dive on his box of toys to prevent the telly dogs from taking them but he is much more laid back now.Nat was a rescue dog,One of 2, Roxi caught some degenerate brain disease that totally destroyed her. She went from being a very alert biddable fantastic trials type dog to a wreck that could not trust herself to go for a walk without falling over and having a fit. Her star peaked at 9 months and slowly but surely she fell to pieces before our eyes. During Roxi,s reign ,Poor Natily was the lemon of the lot,Yet before Roxi expired,She stepped into the breech and quietly but firmly asserted herself,Backing the strongwilled but old Xena down into her place for the very first time in Xena,s life. I allowed it not being disloyal to Xena(one of my very few one man dogs) but because Xena,s could never hold back Natily. So the Lemon as I called her, The dog I tried to offload and sell,became the one who took responsibility,she wanted it and she got it and never made mistakes. The only reason I never sold her was that the people who wanted her were all suspect and would end up destroying her and dumping her. He stubborn ways do not suit everyone. Then Xena dies of old age,One morning I opened the kennel door and 4 legged Biff walked out but Xena was still asleep. A white rose grows over her grave.Like 4 legged Biff,She was a big age. He was 14 when he passed on and Diese was waiting in the wings. Natily welcomed him with open arms and tolerated all his rough games and tricks. It must have been quite a contrast for Nat to see this kid walk straight in,,No rescue,no hardship,just the life of Reilly.We knew that he was no longer a pup when we saw him with a hurt look and Nat was refusing to be his punchbag any more but after a few weeks he got over it and learned a bit of respect.I still think of Roxi and how things have turned out. We can plan all we like but the future is like the weather,What ever will be,Will be.
                                 Biff
         


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Billy on November 27, 2014, 05:31:32 PM
True enough Biff.

Martin, yes indeed and the fluff has not fully grown and bony as hell but he has a certain attitude and one should kneel in his presence.  Truth be told I am getting rather attached to the little Heinz.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: martin on November 27, 2014, 05:42:36 PM
He's rather reminiscent of my Mum's dog that we took over when she couldn't cope any more - he was a "Chihukie" (Chihuaha/Yorkie cross) ,and he'd pick a fight with anything, of any size - GSD - "no problem, lemme at him" - his party piece was to dart through some bullocks and under the gate, once he was the other side he'd turn round and bark furiously at them........ One of life's characters... To be honest, there's very few dogs I don't like ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 27, 2014, 06:48:33 PM
He has a big heartspace, (chest) Billy,
                                          and will be an energetic bundle of tricks and yes he is proud and haughty but I know to look at him that he hides things under his bed blanket. ;D
                                                                       Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Billy on November 27, 2014, 06:51:53 PM
You know things Biff that perhaps you shouldn't.  His Lordship doesn't want you to talk about what is under his blanket!   ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 27, 2014, 07:22:03 PM
 ;D ;D
          :crossed  ( A squeaky teddy bear?),
     A friend of mine had a spoiled rotten Kerry blue,who used to nick things out of the frying pan and hide them right down the back of the sofa and there they would stay. You always knew when he had nicked sausages, he would growl at anyone who sat on top of them, To be honest,it is not nice to have a Kerry Blue sitting in front of you and growling like that. My friend thought it was hilarious.
                                                              Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: mr_magicfingers on November 27, 2014, 08:28:33 PM
I waited 30 years to have a dog of my own, due to work, living abroad, stupid shifts etc. Last year we collected Muppet, a standard poodle. I'd never have chosen a poodle but my girlfriend didn't want anything else. Now I find it hard to imagine owning anything else, she has totally stolen my heart.

This picture was just after returning from doing some shopping. I was putting groceries away and heard her running around, came out of the kitchen to find this. She's got into a carrier bag of shopping, taken out a toothbrush, chewed her way into the packaging (no mean feet in itself) and was running around with the toothbrush in her mouth looking stupidly pleased with herself. I grabbed my camera and managed to get this one lucky shot.

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/Mr_magicfingers/Misc/IMG_3369_zps41456af5.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 27, 2014, 09:06:38 PM
The standard is a very nice dog,
                           and your Muppet is a beauty.
                                                           Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Billy on November 27, 2014, 09:07:03 PM
What a fine example of fluff that pulls the heart strings, and how we love our animals.  I reckon Poogles are much maligned, but when you know them.......


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: clockmanFR on December 24, 2014, 06:33:09 PM
Not sure what is happening here.......

Is my 'Kiwi' cat getting bigger or my 8 year old getting smaller?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: clockmanFR on December 25, 2014, 03:13:21 PM
Whoops I am posting again, real nice not to be working/doing anything today.

"Oh Look his masters hand" Kiwi doing his 'Mere cat' impression by standing on his back legs.

"Lovely nice new rug from parents in law".


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: julian on December 25, 2014, 06:10:22 PM
Rachel, my partner, gave me this t-shirt for christmass -

(http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.9353380.9203/fig,white,mens,ffffff.jpg)

...but, as i mentioned on another forum, most of the time theyre very still -

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y500/julianfincham/floor%20boards/DSCF7589_zps2196a1b7.jpg)


(that will be two whippets in front of the fire - you cant even see one of them!)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Billy on December 25, 2014, 06:29:17 PM
Forgive me but does the fire squeak?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: offthegridandy on December 26, 2014, 12:26:50 PM
Ar tis the oiler for the boiler.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: julian on December 26, 2014, 02:00:19 PM
I did not understand what you meant...

Slate "sealant" / blackener / whatever you want to call it.









Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: WeeVic on December 31, 2014, 04:53:24 AM
My little rotti

(http://s8.postimg.org/a29c41slt/cfd064fbc9441de8e91f4062e285fe4d_8b6.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/a29c41slt/)

o been here for ages I thought I`d join in...  svengo


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Billy on December 31, 2014, 07:24:52 AM
Mornin' WeeVic, joining in is fun.  Well it can be sometimes.

That is a strange pic if you don't mind me saying.  The blades of grass look very large and the sky background big, like a set off "In the Night Garden".  On the other had it could just be last night's prescribed drugs wearing off...  ;D

Still plucking the hair out of my mouth, the wee Chin in moulting again and he sleeps on the pillow, my pillow....   :fight


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 31, 2014, 09:58:34 AM
Good Morning WeeVic,
                      Nice happy little dawgggggg. It is good to see them content and happy.
        Billy, I think that grass is the kind that you get on the golf course.
                                                                                  Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 31, 2014, 10:40:17 PM

           A very Happy new Year from Natily and Me..Mrs and Mr Biff.
                                                                       Biff

(http://s1.postimg.org/ccj3iy70b/DSCF9543.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ccj3iy70b/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Billy on December 31, 2014, 11:48:05 PM
Ahhh, his favourite toy, what's all the wires going to the wine box?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 31, 2014, 11:55:13 PM
Those are the different chargers for mobiles and androids,
                                          The winebox is Diese,s toy box and his different toys are scattered over the floor and next to the piano.
                             He does not play it very well...yet whistle
                                                     Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on January 01, 2015, 12:07:30 AM
 :crossed


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 03, 2015, 10:17:46 AM
Not exactly a pet!

I may have mentioned Chunk before. He's a big feral boy, that came to our attention about 4 years ago, when he decided to 'do a Putin' and annex our garden. Unfortunately he didn't account for the sheer stubbornness of our boy Hobbes (Fat Ginga) who fought him to a standstill in some horrific fur cloud fights. Once they'd come to an agreement, and Chunk became submissive to Hobbes we tried feeding him a few times, but he was always an intermittent visitor.

Now Hobbes is 17, lost a lot of weight and muscle, and wobbles a little bit due to diabetes, Chunk started to 'visit' again, only to find a ferocious Flash now defending the garden, and neighbouring gardens, and side street, and front street and ........ so there have been quite a few 'scuffles'.

So Chunk has now retreated to our friends garden. Their on holiday, so I'm feeding their cats, and Chunk has learned to turn up for a free meal. He's got an enormous body and little legs, so he looks like a mobile rug when he scampers about. He won't let me within about 5 feet of him, but does lots of submissive blinks, so he's trying.

So thought I'd take a quick pick of him to show off his huge head (Flash's cheeks have reduced since neutering so he's lost that wonderful fat face look). And for context, that's not a cat bowl, it belongs to their Dalmatian and is about 11 inches across.

(http://s24.postimg.org/fbzoy4mzl/IMG_1806.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/fbzoy4mzl/)

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on February 03, 2015, 12:49:15 PM
ha ha incredible


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on May 04, 2015, 09:49:57 PM
New household member:

Alan

(Biff, i wonder if you might guess the breed ;) )

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/Animals/alan_zpsosvyxy5n.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 04, 2015, 10:45:06 PM
Ahhhhh GB,
         A nice reserved future 8 stone rottie. He is 6weeks old and has just had his first jab and he is not too happy about it, ;D.
       One of the biggest learning curve periods,
                                       Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on May 05, 2015, 11:02:36 AM
He's actually 10 weeks old and has had all his jabs! :)

We are looking forward to him growing up, both his parents were nice as anything, we want something looks scary and will have a bit of a bark on the farm but is, in fact, friendly.

We got really lucky finding this pup ready to go, the original buyer had dropped out and we were just starting to seriously think about another dog (and we were decided on a rottie)
We checked the reputation of the breeding lines, and you know how small a world this is, i in fact know the gent of the couple from a farming forum!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 05, 2015, 11:51:42 AM
Wow!,
     I got that badly wrong. I wish you luck with him. Rotties are in fact a very placid breed. You do have to remind them who is running the show from time to time.
  They can be very headstrong going into adolescence but with a bit of patience they work it out for themselves.
  Oddly enough,too much exercise is not good , Gentle walks on the lead,untill they are fully grown, (18 months). Best to keep him lean.
  Feed low protein,regardless of what anyone says. I know that Knighty will shout at me, facepalm but pup nuts and cooked chopped liver, codliver oil + routine would be the road that I would take.
 Rotties do have a lot of illnesses from the heart to the hips, even tumors on the brain and a condition where the brain keeps growing but they do not have the room inside the skull for it.
 Because of their weight,they have pad problems and they need to be exercised on a hard concrete yard for a hour, so a run with a concrete base will save a lot of trouble,keep the pads hard and the nails short. Rough, Stoney ground needs to be avoided. They have a very high pain threshold and they will jump and run on the sharp stones until they are practically crippled.
  I know some very nice ones apart from our own pair and yes, they have excellent presence.
                                                                             Biff
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on May 05, 2015, 12:05:45 PM
The mile track that the collies and I love to walk along, en route to elsewhere, was re-surfaced with 2" down limestone aggregate last year. The dogs hate it, horses hate it, I can feel its sharpness through my wellies. The only hope is that 4-wheel vehicles are starting to create a smoother surface in places by kicking the big stuff sideways and compacting the smaller stuff.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on May 05, 2015, 12:17:46 PM
Wow!,
     I got that badly wrong. I wish you luck with him. Rotties are in fact a very placid breed. You do have to remind them who is running the show from time to time.
  They can be very headstrong going into adolescence but with a bit of patience they work it out for themselves.
  Oddly enough,too much exercise is not good , Gentle walks on the lead,untill they are fully grown, (18 months). Best to keep him lean.
  Feed low protein,regardless of what anyone says. I know that Knighty will shout at me, facepalm but pup nuts and cooked chopped liver, codliver oil + routine would be the road that I would take.
 Rotties do have a lot of illnesses from the heart to the hips, even tumors on the brain and a condition where the brain keeps growing but they do not have the room inside the skull for it.
 Because of their weight,they have pad problems and they need to be exercised on a hard concrete yard for a hour, so a run with a concrete base will save a lot of trouble,keep the pads hard and the nails short. Rough, Stoney ground needs to be avoided. They have a very high pain threshold and they will jump and run on the sharp stones until they are practically crippled.
  I know some very nice ones apart from our own pair and yes, they have excellent presence.
                                                                             Biff
 

Thanks biff, the breeders had him on a barf diet, which i like but have not yet summoned the effort to transition everyone else to, so he will go on puppy food with meat/meaty bones/offal


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: knighty on May 05, 2015, 04:42:56 PM
Feed low protein,regardless of what anyone says. I know that Knighty will shout at me, facepalm but pup nuts and cooked chopped liver, codliver oil + routine would be the road that I would take.

no disagreements from me their Biff... meat is roughly 15 to 20% protein, chicken is about 25%.... sounds just right to me :-)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on May 07, 2015, 10:57:54 AM
Love it.
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say 'These wounds I had on Flash's day.'
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day.

Flash's Day. Has it been a year already? Yep!

So Flash's re-birthday came round yesterday. He's still with us, and we've gone from:-

Frightened ferocious feral feline

(http://s8.postimg.org/g6q0cf7wh/IMG_1554.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/g6q0cf7wh/)

To cute and cuddly, kittenlike character

(http://s28.postimg.org/o4lh95nzd/IMG_1802.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/o4lh95nzd/)

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: desperate on May 07, 2015, 01:08:44 PM
Mart You're obviously the "Wiss Pussperer" ;)

Desp


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on May 07, 2015, 01:53:33 PM
Deadly but resting.
great photo Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on May 24, 2015, 10:45:02 AM
...... woke up this morning , ..... tried to find sunday times papers .... and found one of the most stunning creature , i have ever seen ......in my bedroom

gets my yes vote



(http://s11.postimg.org/yn92f8gm7/IMG_0333.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/yn92f8gm7/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Nickel2 on May 24, 2015, 11:30:37 AM
Rizzy Moth?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 24, 2015, 11:34:48 AM
Oh I know that one,
                  It is the "Lesser spotted Rollyerown Moth" exhappy:
                                                                             Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on May 24, 2015, 12:21:49 PM
things got a bit booring  i took the last papers out and read the adverts   .... she still reads the sunday times ... ,   i expect her to get in perfect form , when the night comes...... yippy...




Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 24, 2015, 04:51:10 PM

(http://s24.postimg.org/gcfl624o1/DSCF9882.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gcfl624o1/),
                        "Oh did you see that one, It flattened the grass, I need to get out of here before she trrrrracks it back to me"
                                                                Diese


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: clockmanFR on May 24, 2015, 06:05:36 PM
Just getting far to sunny here!

They think its nearly tea time...............


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on June 16, 2015, 02:49:47 PM
http://www.lifewithdogs.tv/2015/06/30-perfectly-timed-photos-of-dogs/



i like dogs  now


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on June 16, 2015, 03:00:09 PM
Those photos are all wonderful. ;D
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on June 17, 2015, 10:19:28 PM
.....amazing architects i met yesterday everywhere in the garden , ..... on this misty day ....

(https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11214161_1446933005626030_3114469460668132902_n.jpg?oh=fddcdf7cdf87c989041187212d61668a&oe=562A303D)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtp1/t31.0-8/11268362_1446931745626156_2111035126205694237_o.jpg)

(https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/10333759_1447519878900676_393465286866096100_o.jpg)


... the architectural masterpiece , of spiderman , was heavily loaded with more water today , collected flies , and midges to feed the master architect , but she is kinda shy .... , the building reminds me of Munich Olympiapark   (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Dia2000_1_30.jpg/1280px-Dia2000_1_30.jpg)  built forthe 1972 Olimpics




Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 17, 2015, 11:51:08 PM
We have that here as well Billi,
                            But the dragonflys are my favourites. I used to take my kids to a freshwater lake on private land about 500yards from the sea. A friends of mine owns the place. The Freshwater lake has a sandy beach and is surrounded by shore sand.It has never seen fertiliser or weedkiller. every years it hosts these meetings of different types and colours of dragonflys from June right through to september. The dragonflys range in size from about 40mm to 60mm long. I was delighted to learn that we also have dragonflys here who patrol the area between the house and the shed for about 2 weeks every year. They are quite large,between 100mm and 125mm. Our feral cats used to hunt them years ago but I have not seen the new ones doing that yet.
    This year,If I am lucky, I will try and get a pic of one. They are quite aggressive and buzz past my head at a right old speed.
       Dragonflys are the peak of real engineering. :crossed
                                           Biff
                 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on June 18, 2015, 06:48:09 AM
Fabulous pictures. ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: SteveH on June 18, 2015, 08:09:55 AM
   .... she still reads the sunday times ...

 Beautiful, nature does a far more attractive & sustainable job than we do.... It's a "Dandy" male Billi, Big furry antennas, for picking-up the "Lady Fairy-gnomes".  ;)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on July 12, 2015, 09:27:27 PM
Here are a couple of naturals,
                          Another Dandy Male and a Lady Fairy Godmother, whistle
(http://s30.postimg.org/mlq2h3q0t/DSCF0059.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/mlq2h3q0t/)
 She is saying, "Hurry up, we are waiting"
 He us sighing, " Ere, im keeping your boots warm"
                                             Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on July 23, 2015, 11:50:06 PM
We used to have at least 6 blackbirds along the driveway and each time i would walk the hounds they would scuttle back and forth across the driveway from the fruit trees to their nests in the bushes on the edge of the woods,, We used to have some very competive Robins ,loads of them and two in particular that i was quite friendly with.
  A month ago, the Dogs had their sleep disturbed by the local feral moggies. There was nothing to be seen but I knew that probably a new little of kittens had arrived, The stones in the lower yard had been pilled up and rolled onto the grass. The kittens do that kind of thing during play. Last week we had some bad weather Very windy and wet for days in end. Then I noticed the Dogs were a little on edge  in the yard, pointing out this and that. I knew the kittens were in the undergrowth but I just called the dogs away and left them to it. However last week the black and white cat followed us back to the house and when i went outside a few minutes later,she was standing in the rain looking in very bad shape, running eyes and bedraggled coat, She looked to be on her own and was starving. In I went and made her a bite to eat, took it out to her and watched her eat it. The following morning she was sitting in the same place as the dogs and I walked by, so I fed her 4 more times that day and just before dark, I noticed a little movement to the corner of my eye and there was her surviving kitten, little Toto.  I named the mam Plu,
  Sure they are cute, but the buxxers kill every bird in the place and Breed like feral cats.
(http://s18.postimg.org/s3motzdn9/DSCF0081.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/s3motzdn9/)

(http://s14.postimg.org/msyis0gnh/DSCF0077.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/msyis0gnh/)
  The Dad was a pure black tom with very long legs, I know where he comes from about 2 mile away where a retired Englishwoman keeps a farm that is absolutely living with her breed of these long legged cats, Very light frame and real long legs. The Dad was tough enough because he fought off the opposition on our street and annoyed the hell out of Deise and old Nat. I am hoping that Toto is a tom and maybe keep him around the place, perhaps feed him enough to leave the birds alone but the birds will have to try and learn to avoid the cats.
      The blackbirds were sitting ducks really, they were so fat with the good grub that they ran along the ground back to their nests and the Cat waiting in the bushes for them to return.
  It is a very tough life for birds here at the moment but the cats also keep the vermin down as well and we do not have a rat about the place, so she does do some good.
  we will see.
               Biff
  I had used this black plastic to cover the grass while i was doing a bit of building, I chucked the planks and sticks on top to keep the wind from blowing it away. I cannot move anything  there because that seems to be the spot that we can feel at ease and where I can feed them + Toto weaves in and out of the planks like a dervish ,climbs the tree behind and leaps out onto the black plastic. So it is all ok for the time being.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on July 24, 2015, 12:31:53 PM

(http://s13.postimg.org/m9zolsnvn/DSCF0086.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/m9zolsnvn/)
   I can imagine a bird landing beside this character and paying the price. When he gets bigger, i might be able to catch him and put a bell on his neck :hysteria
                                               Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on July 24, 2015, 01:58:51 PM
.....found those two  on our timber deck last weekend ...... trying to cope with a globe  .....  they managed  to keep their energy level up for 24 hours    and scored  ,,, sure a bit knackered afterwards ...





(http://s15.postimg.org/jguw4bi6f/IMG_0178.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/jguw4bi6f/)


scored ....    




(http://s15.postimg.org/cgp9ui9xj/IMG_0193.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cgp9ui9xj/)

big hug ...

(http://s9.postimg.org/gvzsj9cqz/IMG_0201.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gvzsj9cqz/)


and a party after  , why not ...


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on July 24, 2015, 08:33:42 PM
Wow Billi,
          They are doing more than party, :fight. You need to keep an eye on them.
                                                                 Biff
        The Mam Cat is full of kittens again, must be the water,,Would you like a long legged kitten of a non gentle disposition ?,
                     


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on August 07, 2015, 02:03:01 PM
(http://s10.postimg.org/nxne1jsol/DSCF0129.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/nxne1jsol/)
       This is Thomas Toto, Or just plain Tom to you and me. He did very well in the survival games and came top of his class, The others did not make it and so he got his mam,s full attention. Mam was very proud of him and took him everywhere, to show him off. Then for reasons that only she knows, She forsook the bingo halls and started hanging around the clubs and pubs with the sailors and good time Charlies. It was bound to happen, She went on a bender one loud weekend,threw caution to the wind, Ended up with a massive hangover and a tummy full of little wonders.
  So Thomas Toto has been demoted, In fact he has been abandoned and he does not like it one bit. The only thing that man has for him these days, is a hefty box on the ear. It,s tough love. I did drop them a few scraps before the last bad rains but never ventured near them during the few days that the rain was pelting down, In fact,i thought they had left, So the sun came out on Wednesday morning for a little while and I called his name down through the undergrowth, Incredibly, he staggered out and started bawling and bawling, So he had mince meat and nuts, then he had Salmon, Then he had raw bacon, then cooked bacon and Mam only came over to try and rob him,which she did. Hunger is a really great communicator. We are friends of a kind right now and after I sit and watch him eat, he will show off his hunting skills and acrobatics, It is obvious that he likes company. Both Diese and Old Nat just pass him by and he is getting used to them. His Mam is a great , great great grandaughter of Mrs Hubs and she will always do as she pleases. She will be smart enough to lead her new brood down the road to a family of little girls who will trot from house to house to ask who owns them and then get them homes. As for Thomas Toto, well he is in with a chance.
                                                          Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: desperate on August 08, 2015, 08:44:57 PM
Blimey Biff watch your back with him around, he makes that ten foot scaff board look tiny ;D

Desp


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on August 09, 2015, 10:37:32 PM
Aye Desp,
        I am taking my life in my hands even going near him, ;D. He is an interesting little sort and a real cool customer. But today things almost went badly wrong. I decided to bring  " Wincy" into the equasion on the end of a long builders line.
(http://s30.postimg.org/50rpfblod/DSCF0137.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/50rpfblod/), So we had a great game. No fool like an old fool and each time I floated Wincy about on the line Tom got stronger and braver. Then he hamstrung himself on the back right leg,the orange nylon line wrapped around his upper leg and lower leg. The more he struggled,the worse it got and suddenly i had a rather angry little tom sinking his fangs into Wincy,s neck. Trying to untie the leg was out of the question and by now Mama had arrived on the scene glaring with icy stares. Here I was caught red handed trying to strangle one of her kids. I tied the other end of the orange line to the leg of a nearby chair which I sit on while feeding him, raced into the house for a large pair of scissors, Our and down the driveway looking for a suitable stick with which to prise under the cord on his leg, so that I could enter the scissors to snip the cord.
          Keeping one eye on his Mam and the other on Tom,several tries and I sniped the cord on his upper hind leg. Up he jumped and moved away about 4ft or so. He could have given me a really sore hand but I noted that as I spoke, I was able to calm him down, Wincy of course got religated but it just goes to show how things that look so normal can go so badly wrong. If he had managed to escape into the undergrowth with the cord around his leg, it would have been certain death. He never would have got it loose.But it ended well, He paid his respects and I left him to it.
   I think back to the times of 4 legged Biff and Xena. Mrs Hubs was in residence and their was mutual distrust and dislike. This wet and windy morning Biff and Xena found a wet and bedraggled kitten behind the red store. It was so weak and wet it offered no resistance as i stuffed it into my anorak pocket. An hence this wonderful relationship developed between Biff/Xena and little Kit. They adopted her. She was their kid and she followed them everywhere she could, First in my anorak pocket for weeks and then when she could get about properly she would accompany me during feeding times. Nature and time took their course. The toms came calling and Kit answered the call .Two of her kittens survived and I found homes for them but she missed them that much that she could not stop keening. Neither Biff nor Xena could console her, She stopped eating, then one morning as I looked out onto the road some 100yards away, I noticed something lying across the white line in the middle of the road.  She sleeps across the front lawn from Biff and Xena now,. For years I wondered why she had gone the way she had. In the time that she knew me, I used to bring her food in the dark, wearing a bright headlight, once she heard my voice, she would race toward me and the light. I would like to think that she made a mistake and mistook the headlights of the car for mine. I will never know for sure. I am not that good with cats but I can teach our dogs to accept a particular cat,It is not difficult.As for little Tom, his future gets brighter by the day. He is smart and not easy panicked and I got a feeling he will take up with the hounds. There is good friendship and security there,especially as all he gets from his mam is a sore ear. Sometimes I think I am being walked into this setup. She seems so keen to demonstrate her tough lack of love to me and make me feel sorry for little Tom which is exactly what has happened. It is a strange situation at present and there is everything to play for.
   All is good,
                     Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on August 11, 2015, 10:43:15 AM
A strange situation has resolved itself.
A few weeks back as posted here we had a problem with flies.
Patience exhausted, final resort a fly swat. Pretty effective but a bit irritating.

Side effect Elliott the border collie terrified. The noise, me wacking the table top, who can say.

I should make it clear non of our dogs are ever hit.

Elliott had a big problem with the van. facepalm
Van = Walk
Walk = Lots of fun
Lots of fun = Lots of excited barking.
See a cyclist =  Lots of excited barking.
Up to the hills, great walk= Lots of excited barking.
Road to Huelgoat favourite walk =Lots of excited barking.
Wild beach absolute favourite walk = Lots of excited barking.

Nothing we tried could stop this

Yelling = Lots of excited barking.
Silently ignoring him = Lots of excited barking.
etc etc.

Whilst I was in the UK, Mrs T took the fly swat into the van and just laid it on the dashboard.
No swishing or thwack at imaginary flies. It just lay on the dashboard.

Complete silence in the back.
Oh boy.
Still huge excitement to go out but now he settles down with the other two in silence.

I think somehow the circle has been broken, fingers firmly crossed that it stays that way


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on August 11, 2015, 11:00:46 AM
 :hysteria :hysteria :hysteria,
                         Barbara Woodhouse would say, "JOLLY WELL DONE"
                                          Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on August 12, 2015, 08:32:16 PM
(http://s23.postimg.org/9bayivjiv/DSCF0145.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9bayivjiv/), Little Kit their kid, hanging on to Xena,s tail and gettng slowly dragged over the stones

(http://s2.postimg.org/e7gopxo5x/DSCF0150.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/e7gopxo5x/) The rescue gals with old 4 legged Biff after Xena passed on. They were very respectful to him and made his last few years a genuine pleasure, Roxi in the middle ended tragically but old Nat rose to the top.

(http://s21.postimg.org/j9vgma9ir/DSCF0148.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/j9vgma9ir/)
            10 years previously Above Glencoe in Scotland. He was a great traveller and always on the ball. A regular on the ferries. 48kgs was his best weight. Very much admired and discussed by the different security companies. Very cool with a good sense of humour.
                    Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on August 12, 2015, 09:16:06 PM
Our feline livestock have increased overnight,
                                        Thomas Toto has rejoined his mam at the nest and things are looking very risky for the new kittens because Thomas Toto is drinking all the milk and poor Plu is too weak to resist his efforts. That was the situation this morning around 10am. I had noticed that Tom was missing from his usual haunt and did not answer my calls last night. Suddenly he was missing and unwilling to answer. So I decided to check in the green store which has been trashed a few times by fighting tomcats and there sitting on a shelf loaded with foamy insulation,was little Tom. Only when he rose up did I realise that he had been lying directly on top of his poor mam . But it got worse. She was too weak to resist as he pushed the only kitten that I could see to the one side and helped himself. So he got to drink the best milk, the one that starts the babies off in life and develops their immune system properly, In cattle we would call it " Beastins".
 Frankly,,I was appalled he was charging around like a bull in a China shop and it did not look good for any kitten or the mother who was exhausted. The situation was unchanged about dinnertime, But around 6ish, she had woken up and was again dictating things. Tom was feeling very pleased with himself but I got a feeling that it will be a very short lived feeling. He was not hungry and refused the food that I offered him. I am not so sure how these things work but I now have a strong suspicion that I should not have interfered at all and not fed Tom.  I was quite convinced he would have died, especially with all the aggression being directed toward him by his mother and he was howling with the hunger.
  You will often hear nice doggie people say " There are no bad dogs,,Just bad owners" , Well I am sorry but I know that to be totally untrue. You do get bad dogs, just like you get bad people. I am beginning to suspect that we might have a bunch of bad cats :hysteria. I do not know what to make of it all. I get more response out of one of my wooden logs than do do out of the mother. Maybe this is their normal behaviour. They are supposed to be feral but they are camping out next to the house and surely they must have some communicating skills . Tom was not so bad but I am aware that it is just food dish sweetness. Generally, speaking, all animals must have an inbuilt way of co-operating and helping one another in order to propagate the species successfully. but looking at this lot, I have formed the opinion that they are their own worst enemy. It is very strange.
                                                                                        Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on August 12, 2015, 11:40:29 PM
So I dropped into the green store, after last walks at 11,
                                  To have a peek at the felines. Tom was standing guard and Plu was looking very smug feeding at least 3 kittens that I could see. So all my blethering about Tom robbing the milk,etc,,etc ,were uncalled for, Perhaps this is what he was supposed to do, Perhaps he was supposed to help clean the kittens but tonight, the kittens are thriving and looking good, All black and white like the mom. easy knowing I know nothing about cats.
                                         Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on August 13, 2015, 08:17:47 AM
Blimey Biff it would take a hard man not to try and help.

I don't think you could just stand by and do nothing.

I think you did just fine.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on August 13, 2015, 09:45:45 AM
Fear not Tod,
           This morning revealed mom and kittens thriving and little Tom being hand fed, There is recognition in Plu,s eyes, not panic. It would seem that the danger during birth is over. They are more relaxed, Still wary ,but relaxed.In another few weeks she will be taking them down the road to visit the kids who live down there and it will be "kittens in a box, free to good home"  once again after they pick their own one. ;D
               Biff
  nb, Quite a few of these cats belong to 2 or more homes perhaps a mile or more apart and for reasons only they know,they spend their lives moving back and forth between the homes.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on August 13, 2015, 01:52:46 PM
 exhappy:
Great news Biff.  A proud father and all that. ;D


Do you recall Ivan's story(I think) of putting  GPS tracker on this cat and seeing its passage to various stop off homes for tuck.

The first cat here Hiss completely  ferral resisted all attempts at friendliness rarely taking food until she had kittens. Then one day I was just outside sitting when she arrived in front of me with two kittens (spit and agro). I put some food down and straight away she led the kittens to it. That was the start of our domestication, food everyday and gradually she began to trust us, the kittens the same. Eventually she would sit draped on my shoulders whilst I watered the polytunnel.  She had us fully trained.




Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on August 13, 2015, 01:58:13 PM
(http://s21.postimg.org/jxiuz7ho3/DSCF0151.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/jxiuz7ho3/)  Comfy,? The kittens are underneath the pair.

(http://s27.postimg.org/x4rsibz4v/DSCF0156.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/x4rsibz4v/),  a few seconds later, Tom is out looking for grub, There is a small sightless kitten sitting lying across her left flank. Her eyes say it all. " Dear silly man, Don,t do anything stupid" .
                                                      Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on August 14, 2015, 04:46:12 PM
The Saga of the feline dynasty drags on,
                               when i went to feed them this morning, both Tom and his Mam were missing, so I took a pic of the kittens
(http://s23.postimg.org/ic84x5x2v/DSCF0162.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ic84x5x2v/)
      After a few calls, the two of them came hurrying in from the fields and tucked into their breakfast. Plu did not stay around but took off ,leaving Tom to guard the nest, but a quick scout revealed that he was dancing up and down on the kittens and playing rough with them. After working in the garden for a while, I noticed the two of them having a disagreement below the gable of the house and little Tom was getting boxed round the ear but not believing it was happened, kept getting in the way of big haymakers,some with the claws not retracted. Instead of laying low and trying to behave, he began to jump about the place and ran across the street with Plu in hot persuit.
  I just happened to check on the kittens and discovered that they were all gone. While I was looking around in the green store, Plu came in in a very distressed state, she walked right up to me, crying and then jump up next to the nest,crying all the time. Outside Little Tom was doing his best acrobatic feats so far and was the picture of great joy.
  Now I know enough to know that cats move their kittens around all over the place but is Plu that cute that she can tell whopping great lies to put me off the scent ?.
 I have known Byt-ches that have killed pups and small dogs after appearing friendly and placid but the moment people took their eyes of them, they would snap the pups neck or try and kill the small dog. There was no reason for it. There was no remorse and she would hide the pup,s body. Even the pups mother could be totally fooled into believing the killer had nothing to do with it. I was given such a Shepard, It was the only kink in her whole personality and her next owner was made fully aware of her habit. Apart from that terrible trait,she was a first class Shepard and really biddable. Perhaps Cats have the same kind of traits, (Humans certainly have). Looking at Tom and the way he behaved, it would seem he has guilty written all over him but there are no bodies and it all points to Plu telling porkies and hiding the litter well away. So I will go with that one and feed Tom because he is in the doghouse once again. :hysteria. If I think about it, She cannot really have tom hanging around the new nest and giving the location away every time she moves house,, So its tough love for little tom once again.
                                                               Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on August 15, 2015, 01:19:20 AM
The cats have abandoned their nest in the green store,
                                                I sort of knew that they would not be back anytime soon despite the good food. This is nothing new and it has happened a few times before, where they turned up on a neighbours doorstep a few weeks later. The only difference this time is that Tom is in tow.
   Instinct and hormones, drive the whole saga. They are really not in control of the situation at all,They could get such a better life if they studies things a bit closer. Plu,s crying at the empty nest is hard to fathom or credit but she behaved by all accounts like a cat who had her kittens stolen. However, she is nowhere to be seen now and it would be safe to assume that she is now safely tucked up in the new nest somewhere because if she herself had not moved them, she would be hanging around waiting for them to show up or searching the rest of the green store which she did not bother to do.
                   They will be back,maybe in a few months time under their own steam or else in a cardboard box being carried by young girls who will be trying to get them homes ;D. This is their hereditary base or hunting ground, an oasis with bogland all around. They were here long before I ever showed up and will be around long after I am gone.
  Little Tom was just a variation of a theme.Perhaps I was foolish for even getting interested but then,animal behaviour has always interested me.I don,t think I have learned anything. Their is nothing to say that they might handle the exact same situation again in the exact same way. They take the road that takes their fancy. They are independent and wild.
                                                                                             Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on August 22, 2015, 11:56:58 PM
 A week has gone by,
                   And little Tom went missing twice for a couple of days at a time. He is now back on good terms with his Mam but still getting those boxs on the ear. Their disappearance seemed to happen when the farmer next door put his cows in the field. Today this was confirmed when the cattle were taken to another farm and within the hour,the cats were hunting birds on our back lawn.
 I went out and called them and Tom moved at lightening speed to get to me, He was starving with the hunger, His Mam was more reserved but still hungry. I gave Tom 5 minutes to stuff his face and then left them both to it. A visit to the green store at dusk, revealed a very tired, exhausted Tom, Plu was nowhere to be seen, so she must still have her kittens hidden away somewhere, She has changed shape and lost all her weight. she will soon be coming into season once again. Hunger is a great communicator and little Tom can certainly communicate now. ;D. b He is a hardy, bold intelligent little thing and has the making of a born winner.
                                                     Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on September 06, 2015, 07:16:37 PM
An update on Tomi Toto,
                        He is brave and bold and will try anything. His Mam became so jealous of him that I had to hang around when he was being fed. She is very aggressive and will only give way as I am leaving the store, If I lift my boot and nudge her under the chin and then only giving way  a few inches at a time, hissing and spitting.We never did see the kittens again. They could be at someone else,s house or taken in by Pet Rescue. Plu is ready for mating and last night I heard a right racket that I usually say is cats mating, Foxs have a steady yelp but cats have a nastry evil growl.
  So every few days i would visit the green store with Diese and old Nat, they sit at the door and Tom purrs and says hello from 4 ft away,So I thought that after a half dozen such meetings that they would be a kind of used to each other and today as Diese and Nat and I were walking past the green store, I called Tom out. He is good like that and comes when he is called, So Diese and Nat are sitting and watching as Tom comes over and I begin patting him on the head and stroking..Diese reached down to have a sniff and Tom does his meercat thing,stand on his hind legs and gives Diese a few light harmless boxs on the jaw.I stuck my hand down to cover Diese,s eyes just as Nat circled round to cut off Tom,s retreat into the store. She had a malicious old slouch to her and I ordered her away but she was only kidding and then stuck her head in between and give Tom a big slurp on the back of the neck. Poor Diese is slightly offended having taken a couple of boxs on the jaw and not been able to ask why but he was happy enough. It was a good result. Nobody got hurt and the foundation for a friendship has been laid. Tom,seems to be safe enough, I have known cats that would try and scratch the eyes on a dog but Tom is cool and laid back. Earlier on he followed me down to the Shed, I was working on batteries,with a beaker of acid, a hydrometer, and jars of acid on the floor. It became rather unnerving as he was going around pulling at everything that was hanging down. then he tried to jump up on the low bench where I was working on the Batteries and that was it .He had to go. Our last cat, Kit, the one that 4 legged Biff and Xena adopted, was an innocent creature,without malice, She got stuck between 2 worlds and when her kitten were given away, it broke her heart. I never knew that a cat could feel such pain but poor Kit was probably just that bit too innocent. Tom,s attitude is different. he says "Bring it on". I know that Diese is impressed.
  This time I am going to take the green store back, successive generations of tom cats have fought epic battles in that store, suffering serious wounds and I know of one that did not survive, I found his body in the field next door, he was a massive big Garfield type thing. I used to go in there years ago looking for a spanner or such,only to be startled by a commotion coming toward me at head height along the shelves and the ground,I would not dream of going in there if Mrs Hubs was in residence.However, we never have any rats, ;D
  We have slow waddling blackbirds who are just looking to be ambushed at the head of the driveway, they have even returned to the bottom of the garden as well. Plu is looking very posh and sleek,so she must be getting fed elsewhere but maybe not. A mighty ado about nothing. Still, some things about country life are rather pleasant. whistle
                                                                                             Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 07, 2015, 07:48:14 AM
Cheeky teaser!

Our old boys, Calvin and Hobbes (feline brothers) both passed away this year at 17yrs. So our clowder is now down to two ex-ferals Mo and Flash.

This prompted Wifey and I to investigate something we've been pondering for 10 years on and off.

Following an interview/assessment a month ago, we got a surprise phonecall yesterday which (fingers crossed) will mean things get interesting tomorrow.   :crossed

Update and explanation to follow ..... if everything goes well.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 07, 2015, 09:45:20 AM
Time marched on,
             And we briefly got a glimpse of plu new kitten. Tom,Plu and the kitten were totally unaware that they were being watched and the two adults sat apart from the kitten as it staggered about.
 We glimpsed it twice in that week and it has been at least 2 weeks since we saw it last. So Mrs Biff and I think there is something wrong. It still needs looking after but it is too heavy to move about.
 I am guessing that it is blind and is holed up underneath the middle of the Log stack. That is where Plu emerges from dry and sleepy for her meal.
   Tom leaves the comfort of his own nest and joins them there. He is big now and not quite so friendly. Diese and Nat make him nervous and he remains quite wild for hours after seeing them near his patch. Other times, he will greet me like a long lost friend but you would never know what he is thinking. Diese and Nat were pretty good at making up with him but because of his mood swings they now just ignore him while Tom stalks us along the hedges on our walks. Plu is never far away now and turns up to be fed along with Tom but in different dishes.
  Perhaps their are different grades of feral cats, some not so feral and some feral proper. These ones are feral and try as I might over a decent period of time,I find it virtually impossible to establish some means of communication,apart from food. Indeed, I did have Tom trained to hop onto my arm and go for a walk but that filtered away when his mam moved back with her kitten. I have not given up. This has quite a way to run yet and the kitten could turn up perfectly health today..The sun is out.
   Mrs Biff and I have a good clear view of the wood stack and the Green store from our bedroom windows, so we have a good idea of their coming and goings. They are an interesting lot.
                                                                  Biff
               


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 07, 2015, 11:05:31 AM
Oh Mart you tease!!! ??? ???

An animal or animals that you need to be assessed. :genuflect


You are not going top provide a home for an unwanted England rugby team? surrender: stir:



Biff you are softening, I can see that little kitten becoming an indoor cat ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 07, 2015, 11:23:07 AM
Oh Mart you tease!!! ??? ???

I'm worse than a tease! If all goes well (25hrs and counting) I'll probably be spending some time in the near future loitering on busy street corners to take advantage of passing traffic .... amongst other things.  :o


Biff you are softening, I can see that little kitten becoming an indoor cat ;D

Go on Biff, blind kits and cats are extremely adaptable, would be great company in the house, and I'm sure the dogs would adore it and vice versa.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 07, 2015, 11:42:01 AM
Hmmmm
I remember driving into Rome many moons back and there were numerous ladies by the side of the road trying to attract the attention of passing traffic, many had a brazier lit  to try and compensate for lack of suitable attire!!  whistle

Times are hard Mart. I never knew you needed an interview? fpig:

Could we perhaps be talking of a guide dog here?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 07, 2015, 02:01:34 PM
Oh Tod,!!
      You could have been badly deceived, Remember how old Ray used to sing it, She got the walk,,,,,
                                                                                                               She,s got the walk
                                                                                                                  She,s got the style
                                                                                                                    She.s got the smile
                                                                                                                       But she got a ...........................  RIP..Ray Jessel.
                              Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 07, 2015, 03:15:36 PM
Could we perhaps be talking of a guide dog here?

You're not just a pretty face!

21hrs to go. Hopefully pics to follow tomorrow afternoon/evening, assuming Flash doesn't eat it, he did charge (twice) an adult dog brought round to see how we and the cats would cope.  :fight

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 07, 2015, 03:57:17 PM
Biff just looked up the song on utube  :hysteria :hysteria


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 07, 2015, 03:59:30 PM
Just had the idea of a guide cat.

Perhaps not tumble:


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: smegal on October 07, 2015, 04:23:21 PM
Our dalmatian smiling.

(http://s24.postimg.org/93hcsrlnp/FB_IMG_1443810582807.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 07, 2015, 10:28:08 PM
Just had the idea of a guide cat.

Perhaps not tumble:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lie7VYtf33Q


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Billy on October 08, 2015, 12:17:40 AM
Oh Smegal,

you know what they say about owners and their pets, do I detect a similarity between the Smiler and your avatar pic.   ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on October 08, 2015, 08:31:12 AM
 ;D 8)   


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: smegal on October 08, 2015, 01:24:57 PM
Oh Smegal,

you know what they say about owners and their pets, do I detect a similarity between the Smiler and your avatar pic.   ;D ;D ;D

You may be correct.  :hysteria


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 08, 2015, 03:46:14 PM
Navitron meet Fifi:

(http://s7.postimg.org/9pmbjjwgn/IMG_1922.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9pmbjjwgn/)

She's 11 weeks old, and we'll be cuddling her till she's 12 to 15 months.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 08, 2015, 08:08:05 PM
Nice dog M,
       I wish you all the best of luck.
                            Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 08, 2015, 08:37:53 PM
Fantastic Mart,
Hope it goes smoothly.
What a challenge!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 08, 2015, 10:04:32 PM
Going well, she's a star. She did approach Flash gently, but still got a good smack in the face, but that seemed to reduce tension all round.

Later on Flash returned and seemed a little more interested in her, then chilled out, here's a video with Wifey on guard ready to protect eyes.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bapvydpot3yec5w/When%20Flash%20met%20Fifi.AVI?dl=0

She has a crate to sleep in, and is used to it, in fact she's popped in several times today already when she fancied a nap.

Unfortunately Wifey is away volunteering from Friday morning to Sunday evening, so things will probably get a little exhausting, especially all the UN work to avoid regional conflicts. But fingers crossed they'll all be friends soon ..... ish.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 12, 2015, 10:25:27 AM
The saga of the feline dynasty drags on and on,
                               Tom ,you could say,has become more wild and less charming. He took his meals for granted and decided that he would only bother with me when he was hungry. Tom would be fed first to prevent him from raiding his mam,s dish as well. he is now as big as Plu. So after a rather aloof meeting,where Tom sniffed his dish, looked at me and moved away some 6ft or so, more or less saying,,"fill er up", I decided that Tom was somewhat spoiled, and fed neither him nor his mam that evening.. i was also quite shocked to discover that Plu was looking after 2 kittens instead of one that we thought was blind and helpless..I wrote some nonsense on the 7th of Oct scientifically calculating these facts,but Wednesday last ,I accidentally discovered their resting place,perched on a dead branch about 4 ft above the ground in a very difficult spot to reach, So there I was standing there ,mouth hanging open looking at these two little bundles of fur asleep in the most daft place you could imagine. I got pics but the distance was from 40ft away,when I went to get closer,they just melted into the undergrowth.
 So I told Mrs Biff and we had a bit of a laugh about it. I also stepped up Plu,s rations but this evening they went hungry..So early yesterday morning, there was a Q assembled in front of my jeep on the street..There was no mistaking the intent,,they were letting me know that I needed to get off my rear end and feed them,,4 of them, and we got to see the Kittens playing in the early morning sunlight.
  All things Bright and Glorious,!
  So this morning, After walking the hounds, we went to open the gates and on the return journey, I happened to look across the front lawn, Diese was pointing and there on the old Lawn cuttings in the corner, under the ash, was one kitten, black and white but the other all black one had two heads.. Being half asleep,I thought that most strange and began to walk over to investigate, The two heads parted to reveal two all black kittens and of course now we have 3 kittens. both Plu and Tom were 30ft away waiting for their breakfast..
  The guile and deceit that these feral cats are capable off is quite frankly astonishing. They tell massive lies and I remember Plu quite clearly crying and looking into the empty nest as though I or someone else had made off with her kittens. Even Yesterday morning, as we watched the kittens feeding from the food bowls for the very first time, there was only two kittens. Tom did not know he was being watched and we noticed how gentle and caring he was with the kittens, pushing the food across the dish towards a kitten. Yet in my presence. He would apparently trample them and act careless.
 We could clearly see yesterday morning that there were only two kittens visible which means Plu kept one out of sight just in case things went wrong. Tom has acted as the foreign diplomat all along. He was the one who made it possible for therm to survive and it would not surprise me in the least that he would return to Plu,s kittens and regurgitate his food for them.
  These are genuine wild animals and in a way I should be thankful for any kind of relationship with Tom. But sadly we now have 5 cats and that is a problem. Mrs Biff says that Plu is now carrying another load. Many years ago, I had a love/hate relationship with the famous Mrs Hubs, I admired her very much but she hated the sight of me and made it very clear. She was a fearsome character. I had real bother trapping her in the end and a charity took her away and neutered her. She never forgave me and still stalks my dreams. This creature could appear out of nowhere,just sitting a few feet away on a grassy bank and when I would jump, he would just stare at me and slowly melt away into the brush.
  I have no idea how all this is going to work out, they were living here long long before I ever arrived and will continue to do so long after I am gone. As for Tom, I have been warned that he will become quite dangerous and wicked. Time will tell.
                                    Biff

(http://s22.postimg.org/bckhgfpyl/DSCF0284.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/bckhgfpyl/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 12, 2015, 01:24:21 PM
(http://s3.postimg.org/ary69uwjj/DSCF0306.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ary69uwjj/)  Tom sits above then to the right,watching over therm while Mam is off gathering newts. She will take the tail of the newt and let him go. The tail is the only part they eat. They also eat the large dragon flies, Needless to say, there are no birds about and it is ages since we saw a Robin. The Robins here were very tame and would hop about the garden after me.
    We used to have two gangs of magpies that were very loud and aggressive. Then something happened and they began to get wiped out.  We get the odd visit from one or two but the moment they see Plu, They go hopping mad and squaking all over the place,circling above her in the air. Maybe they have bad memories but their nest were some 50ft up the trees.We were delighted to see the back of them.
                                                                                         Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 06, 2015, 10:21:05 PM
A little update on the feline saga,
                                  Tommy has come through a lot. If he were human,he would have been taken into care long ago. His Mam used him and abused his trust to a remarkable degree. She figured it out that if she hung around when Tommy was getting fed,then she was get a bite to eat as well and also eat his when she got my back turned. Time and time again,she would take her kittens and go walk about,leaving Tommy behind sometimes. Then weeks would go by and Tommy would grow tame and friendly, then Mam would return and Tommy would become distant and unpredictable. It looked like he was going to follow in his Mam,s footsteps. Plu became more ruthless than ever with Tommy. He became the baby sitter and was very protective toward the kittens. I most certainly did not expect that side to him. The kittens meanwhile behaved in their normal frightened, paranoid way and only came within 6ft of me when absolutely starving but Tommy was always the diplomat and a line of communication.
   He plays the role of diplomat very well, especially if the kittens are around and his Mam is watching from a distance. This is new and has only started this past few weeks. Other things have happened as well, Plu,s youngest disappeared a week ago and we think that a roaming pair of dogs might have caught it napping on the front lawn. It was the weakest and slowest of the 3. And now another kitten has lost favour with Plu and this is the strange bit,,Tommy keeps her in his nest in the green store at night time. She is not very strong and he lets her feed out of his dish but sometimes holding her head back with his left paw while he slurps the grub. The other kitten, a pure black long legged tom like his dad, stays with Plu someplace else. So for some reason they have split up. Perhaps a defensive strategy .
  Tommy in the meanwhile has taken over the place. He is gracious and friendly with Mrs Biff. he comes when he is called and likes going for a walk down the yard with me. He loves to see me rooting in the undergrowth and if I lift a sheet of tin or such he will jump to the right place to intercept anything that would break cover but there are no rats around here. He and his Mam have incredible patience and can wait for hours sitting motionless in the undergrowth for anything foolish enough .Tommy will even follow me in the front door with Diese and old Nat looking on amazed, but we are not ready for that yet. Any outside meeting than they have had so far have been extremely wary. Diese would like to give Tommy a playfull clout with his big paw ,which has a remarkable effect on Tommy,which gives Diese a bit of a shock, but some day in the near future, perhaps a quiet Sunday morning, I will lay down their dishes on the floor of the lounge and see if Tommy can eat in peace. I got a feeling it will go well. Tommy has the Leatroids of a lion and nothing will faze him.The blood of Mrs Hubs runs strong in his veins. Yet it is hard to believe that a wild and aggressive angry bit of work like Plu can produce such a charmer like Tommy. He still has a lot of growing to do yet but already the big muscles are standing out on his neck and chest. He is turning out to be quite a character.
                                                           Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on November 07, 2015, 07:41:41 AM
It's a slippery slope Biff!! ;D

They turn on the charm and before you know it......

Great story waiting for the next episode. :crossed


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Bodidly on November 07, 2015, 08:06:06 AM
Meet Lottie. A three year old working collie. First dog we have had since my legendary Jack Russell (Pugwash) who lived to 22 years old. For years felt like no dog could ever replace her but the farm needs a new working dog and Liz has been desperate for a house dog so Lottie has both tasks of working the sheep and entertaining Liz.
(http://s4.postimg.org/egf575ai1/DSC04473.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/egf575ai1/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on November 07, 2015, 10:01:58 AM
Well done Beau. She looks wonderful.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 07, 2015, 01:57:05 PM
One happy looking dog Beau,
                       Pugwash is a great name for a Jack Russell terrier  :crossed. I must remember that one,,(Puggi)
                                                    Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on November 07, 2015, 03:50:39 PM
Great Beau she looks lovely!

I love collies. 2 of them here



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Bodidly on November 07, 2015, 07:37:55 PM
Great Beau she looks lovely!

I love collies. 2 of them here



Any tips on how to stop them redecorating the house after each trip outside? Fed up with cleaning up mud already


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Bodidly on November 07, 2015, 07:39:52 PM
One happy looking dog Beau,
                       Pugwash is a great name for a Jack Russell terrier  :crossed. I must remember that one,,(Puggi)
                                                    Biff

Can't take the credit for "Pugwash" she was briefly my brothers dog and the kids named her after their favorite cartoon but it suited her.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: gravyminer on November 07, 2015, 08:15:04 PM
Best pet name ever was from someone oop north  who regularly posted here in Navviland,

a cat called ' Cooking Fat '   exhappy:



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on November 07, 2015, 08:44:23 PM
Beau,
We have a shower head attached to an outside tap, gets the worse off!
There are more dog towels in the wash than our stuff.
Plus side they are lovely!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on November 07, 2015, 08:48:36 PM
Like tod, I have a pile of old towels but without the shower. They love having a towel around the head.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 08, 2015, 09:35:05 AM
Our two are pretty good and avoid the mud,
                                 However sometimes they do get carried away and I have to hose them down. I have large towels hanging over the rads inside the porch door and the really like the good hard rub for drying down. We are told that the wet dog smell is not too obvious in our house but maybe people are being polite. It is a good job that wet dog is one of our favourite smells.
    I also use the steel comb at least once a week. They like that.
                                                                          Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: gravyminer on November 11, 2015, 11:42:29 AM
for those slightly bigger pets that love getting muddy,  I am slightly embarrassed to admit I have recently completed an outside shower with sloping concrete base, an overhead gantry and hot and cold water options ...........


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: gravyminer on November 11, 2015, 11:47:14 AM
 And the indoor facilities for a tired and muddy rider now include a woodburner -


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 12, 2015, 09:13:46 AM
 That is very impressive GM,
                   Very well thought out. You like hosses ;D
                            Biff,


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 12, 2015, 09:54:17 AM
The feline saga continues,
                      Little shorty, the all black kitten,never made it back but worse still the long legged all black kitten disappeared last Monday night. I was sure he was a gonner but baffled because he was a very mature and able little fellow, not so keen on me but that is no harm.Then Plu disappeared and missed meals yesterday morning and evening. However,this morning the all black is back in the nest with Tommy and his little sis while Plu camps out under the log stack covers. This was a real surprise because even though they are wild and hardy,the rain and the cold can founder them. This time McCaw made it back and the experience will do him good. He was mad with the hunger and all shyness was dropped as he tucked into the breakfast.
  I can only assume that Plu went off looking for him and luckily found him. I think I have a place for him,a good home for a guy like this who can look after himself on a large farm. His dad is a big skinny guy with very long legs. Almost like as if he was in the advanced stages of tape worm ;D but the movements and the coat condition prove different. He comes from about a mile away as the crow flies where an Englishwoman has a farm that is over run with these kind of cats. It was only when I looked them up in the book that I realised they were a recognised breed, either Cornish Rex or Devon Rex, So MCcaw must be OK,especially when his old man fought half the toms in this parish for the privilege of being his Da, The last time he fought here,he spent a few days in the green store up on the shelf,looking down on me as I fed Tommy. He had a terrible face with one eye closed ,A big gash between them, with pus running out of it. I thought at the time that he was going to die and just left him too it but months later he was back in town for round 10 and Now we have McCaw and Blink. I don,t like the idea of Tommy doing battle but it is not up to me and I am not going to get him doctored. He is going to have to figure out a way of staying in one piece and not get involved in any scraps. It is a tough life for this lot. I am only now beginning to realise just how tough it is.
                                                                               Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: gravyminer on November 12, 2015, 10:53:55 AM
Love reading your stories about the semi feral tribe biff

Smart, cool animals are to be respected.

Yet we all seem to love the dipstick dog that wouldn't survive a week without human benefactors / minders.

Perhaps they make us feel smart by pretending to be dumb  :genuflect

The horse facilities turned out to be a bit grand because we were held up waiting for the bat licence and had the time, permission and resources to relocate an old timber framed building from beside the main barn project.

It got parked on the end of the steel framed aggie building between two big underground dirty water tanks and was an interesting challenge.
The 6 tonne Hitachi was just able to lift the big old roof trusses into place.

Then the fit out just spun out of control and we have main room, shower, toilet, galley kitchen and an upstairs 'store room', all lined with T&G and insulated with earth wool quilt.
The natives are very suspicious of it but its really just the tack room and welfare shed. whistle
We have had the odd inmate reluctant to leave when it was time though, as the end result is quite magical.

Regarding the horses themselves, they tolerate me but are not ready to nibble my ears or whatever it is horses do to show affection.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 13, 2015, 09:06:47 PM
More news from the feline front,
                         It seems that I got too friendly with the kittens yesterday and now Plu has once again disappeared and taken them with her.. Tommy is unhappy with this move but hard experience has taught him that Plu,s idea of a holiday could be a permanent big sleep. Yet he is lonely and quite uninterested in his grub.
  He is changed so much these past few months that he is totally unrecognisable as the kitten I found in the hedge down the yard. Their crazy early morning antics,just before dawn are hard to understand. they are not mating or anything like that but they get up to the most energetic dashing about and jumping over one another and as the light get clearer they retreat into the green store to sleep.I have no idea what any of this means but looking at the bigger picture ,the relationship between the cats and I,one can see a certain parallel between the kindly western nations and the African countries or any of the countries that we very helpfull westerners have set up camp in.
  My feline friends were well established here long before I arrived. As time went by, I began to see the signs they left, their scratching posts,their breeding nests and areas,,certain trees with the bark polished jet black like ivory. i was mystified and thought that it was mink but now i know that it was the wax on the coats of many cats down throught the years. This same tree floated on a boggy mat and if you stepped to one side quickly,the whole tree tilted over and then right itself, Who would ever think that cats would live or hang out in such a place but they did. I cut down the tree,drained the area and filled it in with good hardcore, Mrs hubs must have hated me for doing that. It was her area for many years. then I went and trapped her and sent her away to be neutered. She never forgave me and moved permanently 500yards up the road to an industrial site, only returning to visit when her daughters were giving birth.
  Little Kit was the first kitten I found abandoned, soaking wet and shaking to death with the cold, I stuffed her in my coat pocket and continued my walk with the dogs. Kit recovered to be adopted by 4 legged Biff and his mate, Xena. They genuinely like her. The short version was, the call of the wild was too strong,she had kittens and lost them,went downhill,went out on the road and got run over,
  The years went by and Tommy turns up. I doubt if he would have made it,if I had not started feeding him. She wanted him gone, it was very very obvious. Yet by turning up to feed him each day in his hole in the hedge, I attracted Plu,s attention back to Tommy because Tommy was attracting easy picking and decent grub for a nursing mother to be.
   By concentrating on Tommy and ignoring Plu who was all hiss and spit, I forged a relationship of sorts, one based on food. Then the kittens were born and Tommy and I grew quite close because Plu,s new home was top secret after she abandoned the green store because I was paying too much attention to her new family. Plu held to tradition and the old ways and was never going to be tamed. Tommy developed a modern opportunistic outlook on life,Greeted me in public and became responsible for the whole gravy train that fed his family. He was bound to be held in very high regard by the family or they could make use of him but still he was handy to have about. And yet Tommy was breaking down the very tradition that helped these cats survive in the wild for years. He was encouraging them to become dependent on me to feed them all.And because they were Tommy,s kin, I was encourage to feed them.. Plu is the only one with sense and this morning she took her kittens once again and left. There is a certain guile and malice in Plu. She is a most sincere liar and I will never forget the show that she put on for me,the evening I came back and found the new born kittens missing from her nest in the green store, She stood up on the nest in front of me ,keening for her lost kittens and left me fully convinced that her nest was raided by a stray fox or dog. She studied me well. At the moment she is a few moves ahead of me but that can change.
  Mrs Biff enjoys all the news about them. Tommy greets her like a long lost friend but will swiftly disappear if any strangers comes into view. I talk of getting a large cage to put in the lounge downstairs, so that Tommy can spend the harsh freezing nights inside in comfort,He already uses the nest that I built for him and he is smart enough all round. Time will tell.
  We had a real rough storm about 6pm and it was not the kind of night for a cat and her kittens to be rambling abroad. I must be going soft. Mrs Biff is highly amused by it all.
                                                                          Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Nickel2 on November 14, 2015, 12:38:26 AM
And that Ladies and Gentlemen, is why I don't have television. Crossroads, coronation street, east enders, emmerdale etc, are all stuff that we see in everyday life. No producer could script this story.
I suspect that Biff is one of the Attenborough clan that we don't know about!   ;D

N2


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: gravyminer on November 14, 2015, 12:01:15 PM
Biff was a very bad cat in a past life and has been given a human body in close proximity to his former clan so he can learn how to be a proper cat.

He appears to be learning some useful lessons  :genuflect



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on November 15, 2015, 08:01:06 AM
They used to serialise Sherlock Holmes in The Strand magazine, every week ending on a cliff hanger.

Now with my first coffee of the day It's Biff's cat adventures with Tom and Plu.
Dangerous exciting and always will he won't he?
 Will Mart arrive by helicopter to share his  cat training expertise!!
Can't wait for the next installment. ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 15, 2015, 11:36:50 AM
(http://s23.postimg.org/9hug5sn9j/DSCF0364.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9hug5sn9j/)  The news was good this morning. Plu and company decided that the storms were no fun and returned to base. The green store has seen successive massive battles. I used to try and keep it tidy but the cats had other ideas. For some reason they were very fond of lock shield valves for rads and would upend my plumbing trays,and spill the lot out onto the floor, then separate the shiny chrome valves from the rest, They thrashed the place dozens of times. The only thing that they did not do in there was use the place as a toilet. In that respect they are extremely orderly.

(http://s14.postimg.org/7i874xinx/DSCF0350.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/7i874xinx/) Pensive Tommy, He knows I have the breakfast and is waiting.

(http://s15.postimg.org/gfg5b81nb/DSCF0361.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gfg5b81nb/)  McCaw and Blink, Blink must have been injured sometime but is slowly getting better. McCaw is exactly as he looks, very able and can look after himself very well.

(http://s4.postimg.org/ls6h5u1jt/DSCF0353.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ls6h5u1jt/) Someone has eyes for me. Years ago Mrs Hubs used to wait in ambush at the exact same spot with those exact same eyes. No wonder I avoided the place. It used to really annoy me the way she could put the wind up me. Whatever about Plu, there was absolutely no come and go in Mrs Hubs. She was a superior being and would be very quick to let you know it. The day I managed to trap Mrs Hubs in a cage, I had a big heavy blanket ready to throw over the cage so that she could not get at me through the bars, I poked the blanket down round the side of the cage to my own satisfaction before attempting to lift the cage and carry it away. The moment I stood beside the cage to lift it, Her long front limb came out and slashed across the top of my left boot,leaving deep gouges on the ankle protector. I made a point of showing this to the nice lady who came to collect her but it was like talking to the wall. She was in a different frame of mind when she came back with the neuterd Mrs Hubs, She opened the door of the Land Cruiser and pointed to the cage telling me, "There,s your cat"
  Gone was all the lovey dovey chatter :hysteria :hysteria. I have no idea how they managed to get a needle in her or sedate her but the same Mrs Hubs would be a proper demon loose inside a surgery.
  Anyhow, they are all back in town and hopefully they will settle down and take it easy.
                                                                                   Biff
  


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: smegal on November 15, 2015, 06:59:45 PM
Only a few hours old. The towels have been removed.

(http://s12.postimg.org/b9blzm27h/12248726_10101787855127788_1866655291_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on November 15, 2015, 07:14:15 PM
Double wow!
Both Biff & Smegal
Great pictures chaps ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 16, 2015, 12:06:36 AM
She looks a happy Gal Smegal,
                          Years ago, I bred a certain type of working dog quite successfully. It was a huge responsibility, even back then. I tried my very best to make sure that the pups went to good homes then many years later when 4 legged Biff came along, I had a lot of dog fanciers offering me deals to breed, the normal fee and the pick of the litter but I turned down at least a dozen requests, simply because the Ladies in question were nervous or not put together properly. Then Xena came along. She was a white Shepard,totally unfazable and ex secuirity all the way from Brighton in the UK.
 At the very first meeting between the two, 4 legged Biff lay down at her feet and seemed to go to sleep within a minute of the meeting, The meeting took place in a big lounge kitchen with plenty of room but Biff choose to sleep at her feet. This guy never bowed to any dog our any one in his life before and a lot of the ladies that he met before that day,he just ignored them. So I paid the money there and then  :hysteria, even before handling Xena and walking her. Xena became a part of out life and bit by bit I found out her history. At the time, I thought she might have been stolen and was prepared to hold her until the real owners came along but no, everything was above board,the previous owner had an affair with another woman and Xena was given away in an act of spite and revenge. It was betrayal of the highest level. She was the first dog ,especially a Shepard, that I ever bought, that threw in her lot with me completely within 24 hours of coming onboard.+ 4 legged Biff had found a true soul mate who he cherished to the day she died. Normally you will have to give a mature Shepard some 3 to 5 months before they let you inside their head but Xena was the real deal with the strength and confidence to put her trust in us there and then. Within a year ,it was like as if she had always lived with us. Her previous owner came to visit the area a few times, (the wife) and Xena was anything bit friendly. There was great stuff in her. We had little differences as to how things should be done but nothing that could not be worked out,even though she was quite stubborn. I was stubborn also. I often think of her and wished that she could have started off life in our company instead of being bandied about like she was but she never looked back with us. She was the nearest thing to an artic wolf in looks that you would ever see. I remember the times back in my life ,the Dogs are the index,and motors are the cross references. Birthdays,etc. Xena was a good one.
  She and Biff mated, She had a false pregnancy and on the second one,she had to have her pup bed removed. It was a real blow but also a relief in another way because the pups could only go to experienced handlers. Your worst nightmare is some dude who knows it all, turns the dog aggressive and blames the breeding. There are plenty of those.
  Dog breeding has its good points but has serious pitfalls. Most of the breeders that I knew in my time ,went bust. That says it all.
        Good luck.
                                Biff
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on November 16, 2015, 07:47:03 AM
Good one Biff another great story for my morning coffee. ;D ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 23, 2015, 09:45:02 AM
 It has gone very quiet in the green store,
                                     Little Blink has been on his own for a few days now, Or Saturday morning to be precise. That is what it is like. They up and leave when ever it suits them. Tommy, Plu and    Richie McCaw, leaving Blink with a side on vision of the world. What can one say. The green store looks like a bomb hit it and if I can pack Blink comfortably into a corner, I could get it all tidied up and organised properly. Now that would be sure to bring the gang back. I would not have it done a few hours and they would be busy in there wrecking it back to its correct arrangement. They are very fond of rad lockshields and play with the olives for ages,
  If my kids were small, I would explain that they were off on a job somewhere, Maybe a bank or a supermarket full of John West, the best, They would be a feline version of the "Grisom Gang" with Plu being the infamous "Ma Parker" (don,t ask) but Slim (Blink)getting left behind in the green store to recover from a previous shootout.  You all know Slim of  "Ma says ya gotta be nice to me", actually that character does remind me of Blink a lot,,he used to hold his head sideways in an innocent kind of pose but there was nothing innocent about him,especially if you got on the wrong side of him.
  It,s tough being a moggie in this part of the world and nobody makes it tougher than the moggies themselves.
                                                                            Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: gravyminer on November 23, 2015, 10:43:51 AM
Fascinating and very entertaining Biff. Thank you.

bit like a reality TV show only eeerrr real

Do the crew fall out among themselves and only stand together when Biff gets involved ?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 23, 2015, 01:30:19 PM
Hi GM,
      Yes, They do fall out among themselves but the main source of aggression comes from Plu. She is openly jealous of any communications between the Kittens and myself. After a period awol, the Kittens return to their wild state but not Tommy. Tommy will demonstrate his importance by showing how well trained he has me,supplying the grub and chatting him up. After a few days at home the kittens cannot help but be impressed and drop their wild manners and allow themselves to be spoon fed and stroked,,,,,This brings out the devil in Plu, Those burning eyes, really are green and full of spite and malice. She gets herself into such a strop that Tommy will actually chase her out of the green store. He has been strong enough to bully her for the past month or so. Yet he is surprisingly good with the kittens. The problem is,that the whole relationship within the gang changes from week to week and nothing stays the same. I am starting to believe that their whole beings are determined by Hormones / Pheromones and the moon / tides. This is the only thing that makes any kind of sense.
  It is simply crazy to walk away from lovely tasty food, but they do., it is simply crazy to head off before a storm into the undergrowth, knowing fine well that it gets flooded.
 Then they eat like gluttons, like there is no tomorrow. I have wormed them but still they will stuff themselves one moment and refuse to eat the following day.  I do keep an eye out for the Bird catches and no, they are governed by forces that they cannot deny. It is that simple.
  And yet they are brave beyond words, I have watched,from our gable window, Tommy sitting out in the middle of the driveway,apparently world away and a Jack Russel and Collie trotting down our drive towards him, He just sat there serene as the two dogs got to within 20ft, Then I saw that Plu was waiting behind my truck wheel in ambush. The Collie took off like a bat out of hell and the JR was trying to overtake him. Neither Tommy nor Plu moved a muscle as the two dogs tore out the gates and up the road. Obviously they have had some previous experiences, :hysteria
  Do I miss them,?  Absolutely,,even Plu, I got into the habit lately of hissing at her before she hisses at me. She looked dumbstruck as if I had done something really vulgar but she backed up and got out of my way all the same. I could translate that look without a bother.. It said.." You know what, your head is crocked Biff"
                                                                                           Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 24, 2015, 09:42:02 AM
It is now Tuesday,
                   Blink has been on his own since at least Saturday morning. I am not sure if Blink is a He or a She, Blink is really too small and fragile to upset but I am guessing that she is a female, ;D. I knew Tommy was a male within a few minutes of meeting him, He was macho even when he had nothing to be macho about. So is MCCaw,even though the book says that the chances of him being a male are nil and if he was a male he would be sterile, (the book is able to tell the sexs by the colour) The author obviously never met the English woman,s big black Tom. ;D. You don,t get more male than that character and McCaw is his double.
  I considered going looking for Tommy, The neighbours here are pretty good and helpfull. However, going to someone door and asking did they see a group of feral cats hanging about would be akin to asking did they see any handsome fairies lately. And worse still, The Gang would take exception to my interference in their heists. Oh! and they do pinch a joint now and then and take it back to Base.
 I found it very very odd that their latest kills would already have stuffing and be bound in netting ready for the oven, The last time that happened they were practically exhausted carrying it back to base and I just happened to go out to the logpile and there it was. Plu and Tommy were both getting tucked in but dived for cover the moment I came round the corner. After discussions with Mrs Biff,we decided that we could not be absolutely sure whose joint it was,even though,it was pretty obvious to me that the lady in question who was missing the joint would be pretty annoyed.
  I think the plan is to target a house with a soft inhabitant (like me), Pitch a lone Tommy or a whining Mccaw at the back door and wait until the owners put out some grub. Then Plu could join in and while the house owners are ringing round to see who owns these cats, they feed them well to keep them there until the proper owners arrive to collect them. Their presence is easily explained by the thunder and lightening and the terrible storms we have had lately. They would not know that this gang actually hunt in the middle of a stormy downpour. Then when things start getting too friendly they head back to base.
   Meanwhile, I have Blink to contend with. Her head is much too big for the body and she keeps switching angles to rest her neck muscles, She eats fine and keeps the place clean, so she is not late in that respect but this morning she was shivering with the cold. So Tommy better come back soon or else she is going to grow very very stiff. I have her in a well insulated nest and as long as she keeps eating she will make it but they don,t all have the drive to survive that Tommy had. This is the longest the gang have been away and I just hope that they have,nt all ended up in the pound. That would be a disaster.
               Biff
  It is Blink,s breakfast time. ;D
         


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on November 24, 2015, 09:50:09 AM
It's good to know you're giving Blink all the support you can Biff.  It's natural to help an animal in need of help.  You're sure to be putting a good word in with St Peter for when it's time to find out if you're name is on his list.  I hope he/she makes it through to spring.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 24, 2015, 07:36:43 PM
(http://s2.postimg.org/it2bdof6d/DSCF0342.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/it2bdof6d/) Tommy  a week or so before he went walkabout. At least he was in fine fettle for a bit of hardship.
(http://s13.postimg.org/yrlypm7ub/DSCF0344.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/yrlypm7ub/)  Blink in happier times,telling me to get lost.

(http://s1.postimg.org/506kcw597/DSCF0370.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/506kcw597/) Blink half an hour ago,settling down for the night and wants her Mam and Tommy. I have been allergic to cats fir, especially kittens fur all my life and would have considered taking her inside in a cage but she is much more stable and attached to the Green store.
(http://s21.postimg.org/ys0udmr8j/DSCF0372.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ys0udmr8j/) This is their kind of terrain, acres of bogland and little oasis dotted here and there. A thousands cats could disappear into the ground around here and you would not even notice them. This is the kind of tree that I have often described before. The roots are in the boggy peat which floats on a layer of water when it rains for a few weeks at a time,the water level rises and the whole tree floats, Then the wind gets up and the long branches act like sails and pull them selves over,,especially in the summer when they are covered in leaves. Eventually this lot will fall flat,rot and new growth will spring up again, taking another 20 to 30 years to go through the whole cycle again.
                                                                                             Biff
   Not too far from here, there is a good half acre of trees just like that one, they would be quite tall say a good 30ft. Grass grows around the bases but when the wind blows the whole lot start to bend this way and that way, you could almost imagine that they were about to get up and start walking across the bog.My son and I went in there one day with a 10ft steel sounding rod, There was about 2 ft of soil and peat before the rod dropped down through the water onto a hard smooth rock no more than 4 to 5 ft below the top surface.The water could not get away quick enough, so the whole lot just floated on top. It is a little unnerving initially but once you get the hang of it it is fine.You just don,t stand too long in the once spot. ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 29, 2015, 10:39:32 AM
Another 5 days have gone by and Tommy and Mccaw are still AWOL,
                                                    I rise early before the light, Our bedroom window looks down on the entrance to the green store. I organised it that way ,years ago just to be able to keep a wary eye on things but now it just reveals the antics of the feline clan who moved into it years ago. A few morning ago revealed Plu stealing in like a thief in the night. She may have been checking on Blink after all or she may have been snacking on Blink,s good supply of nosh. So I decided to remain with blink while she finished her meals, some 10 minutes,which revealed that she is quite grateful for the attention and well able to demonstrate her thanks.Then I remove the leftovers. So Blink has got quite tame and is now a far cry from the mini Tasmanian Devil that jumped to challenge me from the store shelf. She is also very vocal. Maybe the ladies are all that way inclined. Plu sure is and can spit and hiss for no reason other than she could see me .
  My past experiences with the likes of Plu has taught me that when Blink is ready to travel, She will steal her away like she did the other two. She needs the green store for her next brood. Stealing Blink away would seem a kind of difficult or a bit daft but not when you have watched this crowd like I have down through the years. She will offer Blink her milk and her pheromones will do the rest.  They have their set plan and methods and there is only one thing that will prevent them from succeeding and that is to pull the plug before she does. I think I know where she has left Tommy and MCCaw. I might be able to get Tommy back but McCaw will be totally wild by now. Mrs Biff and I are planning to house Blink in a cage in the downstairs lounge overnight. It should not be too difficult but she will also get the chance to meet and get along with Diese and Nat from behind the security of the large cage. She will get her meals at the same time so it should go OK. Blink seems to want to get along and has the right amount of curiosity to figure thing out.I don,t think she would take the eye out of Diese or Nat and she does not have these highs and lows like Tommy has. Perhaps Tommy would have leveled out over time but it is doubtful. I would not have a problem with him in the least because I could tell when he was in a strop and leave him alone + when he would be somewhat aggressive,I could tell him off and he would listen but I would not let my Grandkids near him, he never did make it up with Diese and Nat ,he was too keen to dominate and the hounds found this quite amusing and that is where the damage could be done. Progress was slow if not impossible and I would never risk their eyes. Yet there could have been an understanding based on mutual respect, where they nod to one another and leave each other alone,which is how it was before Plu pulled that stroke.
   I remember back many years ago,the difficulty I had in trapping Mr Hubs. She knew exactly how the trap worked and robbed it at least 6 times. It was only the cries of her kittens,trying to free the bait inside a strong plastic cover inside the trap that made her decide to risk it in the end, So She went into the trap trying to hold the door open with her rear end,while at the same time ripping an tearing that the plastic to free the bait,The kittens scarpered and the door came down with a bang giving her a belt up the rear. She was absolutely livid with rage. I threw an old padded quilt over the cage and carried it inside the green store, Somehow,she managed to raise the heavy quilt and reach out, slashing the ankle protectors on my boots, leaving deep gouges with her nails. She never forgave me, Neither will Plu.
                  Biff
     
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on December 01, 2015, 08:03:09 AM
Coffee this morning returned to normal !!! Great tale or (tails)  well told Biff. Fabulous.  ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 05, 2015, 09:02:43 PM
I visit the green store on a regular basis,
                             Blink likes routine, If I am a bit late,she will sit out at the front of the store and give me a great greeting, allowing me to scoop her up with one hand and carry her into her shelf for her meal. She will take a bite, leave it, hop onto my arms, make her strange Honda 50 music and then hop back to her dish. The storms don,t seem to bother her in the least and she will go out in the worst of weather to do her toilet.She is thriving,getting stronger (and longer) by the day. She is into my old plumbing gear and I can find almost anything on the floor with each visit.
  I have been very busy lately, testing a project but I do try and make time for her, In fact she is something to look forward to.
                                                                                    Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on December 07, 2015, 07:49:50 AM
Ok, I love dogs, get multiple fusses every day from various breeds when out for my morning constitutional. But nobody told me how fast Lab/Retrievers grow. 'Little' Fifi arrived at 11 weeks, and was the size of Flash cat, and 6.5kg. Now she's 19 weeks, nearly 15kg, and sticking her nose onto worktops (standing up on back legs). She's also very social, almost too much. yesterday we took her to Morrison's for a lesson in lifts, and to watch people appear/disappear at the top of their escalators. She tried to feign disinterest, but every time a child came into view her tail went berserk, and a treat had to be held firmly to the tip of her nose.

Quick question, what do you get if you mix the following three:
 - 2 largely white cats that sleep on the bed
 - 1 new duvet cover mostly dark blue
 - a lot of wet weather (and wet paws and fur)

Shame the camera can't pick it up properly, but reminds me of the 80/90's and all the elderly ladies with blue rinses.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on December 07, 2015, 04:25:41 PM
This is our cat   Luna  , very funny cat , grew uo with my  son



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 08, 2015, 09:45:25 AM
The days slip and slide toward Christmas,
                                    Everyone is looking for holly with berries. We have loads of it and give it freely. There have been that many storms and gales that no sooner are we out of one than we are into another. Diese and Nat have nice shiney coats. They have been well washed with the recent deluges and they seem to not mind in the least but they dodge the mucky holes thankfully.
 On our return journey last night, Just a few yards from the front door, Diese pointed out Blink  and there she was in the middle of the front street ,bold as brass. She is expanding her explorations and seems to trust me a lot. So I picked her up, Left the hounds in the porch and carried Blink up to see Mrs Biff. The brightness of the living room light startled her,then no sooner was i sitting down than that "Wild" program came on the flatscreen with a selection of different animals,wolves, tigers,bears and it was all too much for Blink. She leapt out of my arms and dashed onto the snack kitchen, leapt onto the hob and tried to exit through the closed veux. A few quiet words calmed her down and I returned to my armchair. It is going to be some gas watching this lot when Diese barks at the telly and Blink jumps 3 ft in the air. :hysteria but we will cross that bridge when we come to it. She had a pleasant 15 minutes and then it was time to feed her in the green store and leave her for the night. Old Plu is slinking about. She is lame on one back leg but not too bad. She is all for the hard road.
                                                                               Biff
 NB, I am being constantly amazed by the sheer intelligence of these cats. I remember we had cats about the place when I was a kid but they were never clever, in fact they were down right dumb but this lot are really clever. You can see them souse things out as they take everything in and process it.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 10, 2015, 08:41:54 AM
So each day,
           Blink gets her 15 min visit to our living quarters on my arm, She gets time to settle and her little heart slow down and tick over. The hounds drift off to sleep and she studies everything around.
 However, last night the storm was raging outside and she had not had her visit, I went and called her and took her inside after we walked a few hundred yards around the yard with the wind going mad. Then I picked her up and we went inside. The hounds barely stirred and Mrs Biff gave her a quiet welcome but Blink could not settle, She grew tense and agitated ,so after a short while I put her down outside. Don,t worry, you will never have a problem knowing when a cat is tense and agitated. We walked to the green store and I left her with a little to eat.
 She is getting big , big and wirey and deceptively strong
  This morning,s greetings were extra demonstrative, She normally parks herself at my feet and waits for me to pick her up but this morning she threw herself over on her back into a puddle of water and wriggled there upside down waiting ,It was like picking up a wet sponge,I was even tempted to giver her a squeeze and a shake,but instead a quick wipe and good breakfast was the order of the day.
 She will have very little choice from now on but to tag along with Diese and Nat on their walks. She stalks us already and waits for a suitable place to appear for me to lift her up. Diese is getting the hang of it,like I knew he would but old Nat is pretending to be not interested. All is good.
                                                                                      Biff
  NB, Absolutely, no sign of McCaw or Tommy, Yet Plu shows herself from time to time at a distance. It is as if,she knows, she did wrong.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on December 10, 2015, 09:01:52 AM
Biff, thanks for the update on little Blink, good to know she's getting you and Mrs Biff nicely trained. 

It's good to know she's doing well and being cared for.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 11, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
(http://s8.postimg.org/w8txaybch/DSCF0393.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/w8txaybch/)  Take that,!   (nails retracted)

(http://s8.postimg.org/qbun7vjld/DSCF0409.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qbun7vjld/)   So you want more, ?

(http://s2.postimg.org/h45wlzwxh/DSCF0400.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/h45wlzwxh/)  Arghhhh,!

  She kept Diese entertained for a solid 20 minutes.  In the last picture,She was up on top of the cardboard box belting the ball, (hanging from the top of the cage) back and forth, The box flew out from underneath her and she landed on her back between the cage and the box, Diese,s expression says it all.
                                        Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 17, 2015, 11:51:05 PM
There is a storm howling outside,
                                Blink kicked up a stink and insisted on being let outside. Each time she is released at the front door she takes off running,jumping for joy. Tonight was nasty and she just meltred into the wet darkness, A couple of hours earlier,she followed us in the front door and I had to push her back out again in order to get peace to dry down the dogs. The rain was pelting down and a good force 8 giving it,s all. After the dry down, I opened the door and called her name, In she came seemingly wetter than the hounds, A few kitchen tissues later and she was looking remarkably dry and spruce. Into the cage she went and got tucked into chicken and good sized bones which she eats like a crunchie bar.
 Diese came up and plopped himself down beside her cage and after 20 minutes or so,she was allowed out and round the room. It is a kind of hectic acting referee with only Deise listening to me but somehow order prevails but not before Diese has had a good exercise round the room.She shows him all her tricks, all her moves including her battle mode,arched back and sideways rush. In the beginning he was baffled proper but now he knows that those nails don,t lock on so he is happy and game for a game, But it is kind of difficult to accommodate a 75kg ballet dancer in a room 16ft x 15ft. She was quite returning to her cage and Diese lay down beside her on the other side while she drank gravey juice and studied in silence.
  Every day is a new day for her. She is growing very fast. Her worming dosing which finished on Monday left her weak and starving but she was packing the grub away by Tuesday morning. I kept her confined on Monday and got the last of her stools to check for worm. It was fine,so a good groom and loads of good grub is making her grow like a weed.Walks are fine but the hounds, in particular Diese find it difficult to concentrate on the job in hand while she is about and hopefully they will get used to her while they do their toilet. I pick her up for the duration.
  I tried  a tray of sand in her cage but Today changed it for a proper Aldi crumble cat litter which she used. I did not do it deep enough and she ended up trying to pile the lot on top,then still making the same sweeping motions,outside the litter tray and  all around the cage but not making contact with the ground. I found that quite strange. It means that the habit is inbuilt and that she is  not quite in control of it but as she gets older,she will perfect it. For such a small animal,her jaws are extremely powerfull and Diese studied her as she worked her way through the crunchies. I could tell that he was impressed. She is having a positive effect on Diese, poor old Nat just wants to be left alone and having this little dynamo tickling her toes while she is trying to snooze is rather trying,especially when she thinks that Diese is going to step on her in pursuit of Blink.
The negative side is not so good, old Nat can switch off and go to sleep, or even just lie there and doze but alert,however Diese ,who normally can adjust his heartbeat,slow it down to a tickover, is finding it difficult not to hyperventilate.It will take time for him to accept that she is a party member and in the meantime she has to be kept an eye on and looked after. It will take a good 10 days before he will be able to switch off and slow his metabolic rate and even then,she will have to be in her cage.But she has a friend, a guardian angle, one she runs up to in the street outside and rubs noses with.
 She is a stealer of hearts, Her position is pointed out immediately if she is present outside.She does take advantage of us, of that there is no doubt,especially Diese who wears his heart on his sleeve and will give away her position outside in seconds flat.
 We had a visitor to the green store in Tuesday evening, I thought it was Mrs Hubs for a moment but the eyes were saphyre blue in the lamplight,I had Blink on my arm and this one was looking down on me from the shelf. It was Blink,s dad,after a study, I could see the fresh scar down the side of his face. I sent him on his way with a gentle tap of the flat of the spade on the rump. I think, he expected to be able to hole up there and help Blink eat her meals.He is a very big cat indeed and did not like the feel of the steel on his rear end.
  This is a terrible month,s weather. Everywhere is saturated, everything is wet. I dry a decent amount of logs beside the Stove but making sure not to set the place on fire. I have a thing about fire and I check and double check.SADs. Stove Attention Disorder. I have no excuses. i don,t want any.
 The wind is howling  outside and the rain is pelting down. Blink will have found a secure dry place but the Hounds and I have last walks to go yet. Roll on the spring.!
                                                         Biff
(http://s28.postimg.org/eq2lnng15/DSCF0411.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/eq2lnng15/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: MR GUS on December 18, 2015, 09:49:05 AM
Not much to report here, however in a time of "fluster" for the human race to out-present each other
 ...my big gay hound (the male boxer) has been quivering from head to to for the past 20 minutes because he has "found & presented, (to look at NOT take) ...a sock" ...step back, take a breath, appreciate life's simpler pleasures.

All hail the Mitch the mighty hunter!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 18, 2015, 10:57:52 AM
And yes indeed Gus,
                You do get gay dogs and like gay humans they can have unexpected talents for understanding situations better than straight dogs.
 Our canine friends have all our faults and failings but nowhere to offload them like we do. They have to suffer in silence.
Again,they have bad articles among them like we do. Overall,they are good and decent and want to get along ,which is good for us.
                                                  Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: MR GUS on December 18, 2015, 11:38:55 AM
You can indeed get gay animals, Mitch though is both sorts, gay as in joyful & merry, (& a father to 2 litters of boxer pups) but also male boxers have a certain gait, a joyous 4 paws off the floor dance, ..male boxers are often proper tarts & "himbo's" ..thus the term, entirely switchable.

They are often complete mummy's boy's

He is eternally "gay" ..but also a milksop (considering his defined build) & known to be, & for the odd occasion cause of a "wet blanket"

The male boxers we have had are more intuitive to feelings / illness within the family, ..probably any excuse for an extended snuggle in reality, ..sneaky beggars.

Probably stems from the rear end swagger they have, ..that seems to follow through the entire length of their minds & body. (we laugh at the term "guarding breed" )


(http://s7.postimg.org/4lek5e57b/20120625_25.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4lek5e57b/)

Sadly, his time may be up soon, when younger he was bitten & an infection set in (his immune system now attacks itself) which spread & is typically controlled by drugs, however when it flairs it kills off a bit more of his "nous" ..as displayed by behaviour, just the other week the vets (despite so called safeguards) issued a smaller dose pill, ...resulting in flare up & noticeable behavioural change, the ear membrane is so close to that of the brain, his ear was a ruddy mess.
(not the firsttime the vets have messed up & tried to deny liability, however this time I insisted on a clear letter of apology & liability on their part, it will keep them on their toes in the practice far more than an "I dealt with it, stand down" phonecall from a senior vet.

Not rocket science, 1 pill type, same dose for nigh on 3 years F.F.S.
(no more pups via him we wouldn't risk it, just to be safe).


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on December 20, 2015, 06:13:09 PM
Update on Fifi the GDP (guide dog puppy) who is now 5 months old.

She's great, very clever, very friendly and learning loads. But most important we're making sure we don't get too close, or too attached to her:


(http://s17.postimg.org/5zi6i0ddn/IMG_1969.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5zi6i0ddn/)

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: gravyminer on December 20, 2015, 06:53:34 PM
ah yes

she looks pet rified Mart.

Should be simple enough to hand her over once youve unclevered and unfriended her.


Dont think I could do this, I would rather have a reject and have her for keeps


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 20, 2015, 09:31:02 PM
It is a noble and honorable thing to do,Mart.
                            The guide dogs learns everything about socialising in the first few months and needs to be really close to humans. Needs loads of 1 to 1. They are destined for greater things so all the stops are pulled out to give them the best possible chance. Still many of them don,t quite make it. Despite being purpose bred for the task,the gene pool does not always play fair and unlike the police dogs who are allowed to have an off-form day, the Guide dogs cannot afford that.
   Still, It is hard to part with a good dog no matter what the deal is.
                                                 Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 20, 2015, 10:58:45 PM
On the feline front saga,
                        Little Blink is going from strength to strength and growing fast. She has Diese wrapped around her little paw and is wearing him out. They doze head to head with the cage bars in between. She gets 15 minutes or more loose in the room until she decides to climb up on the furniture and then it is back in the cage for a while. I know that you cannot train cats but you can lay down certain laws or make a deal with them. She will walk through the pouring rain to join Diese on our walks. We try to tiptoe out the front door but her hearing is accute with the wind blowing from the north and she is out of her nest and after us down the yard. So I could be calling her little "Pest" before long. Still Diese is very happy ::)
                                                                     Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 23, 2015, 09:14:17 AM
We passed a little milestone last night,
                               Diese was able to switch off and relax but only after 2 hours of acrobatics and fiendish hunting displays from Blink in her cage. She exhausted herself and just lay back and went to sleep. It was almost as if she told him, "That,s it Buster, The shows over for tonight,comeback tomorrow night" and he just got up and walked over and slumped down on the floor and went to sleep himself.
 She has a little toy like a cross between a cat and an octopus and a ball on a string. Fiendish battles only stop for a break to discuss what ever Dogs and cats discuss in these strange circumstances but Diese is mesmerised and tell her so in low gutteral sounds to which she listens inches from his nose with her head tilted sideways in agreement. He hardly bothers to pull back from the extended paws. He knows now that the nails are never out. She is not even half the size of his head, yet she wants to be on equal terms when she walks around the floor.
  Old Nat is slowing down a lot. She is way past the age that good Rotties go to the happy hunting ground. She seems happy for Diese and his little friend but she herself is just too stiff and achy to take part in any games of hide and seek. Yet she is all there, Her head is sound and her waterworks is second to none and while she is happy,,so are we.
  Life grinds on in Castlebiff, I will be glad to see the back of Santa,,Roll on the spring.
                                    Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on December 23, 2015, 08:30:49 PM
Biff you make breakfast.  Loving this ongoing story.
Give those dawgs a pat for me.
Tod is the same as Nat really slowing up, some days he fancies a stroll  some times not.
Elliott is obsessed with Trexie the cat.
Comfort can hear a fridge opening at 50m!



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 24, 2015, 10:16:30 PM
A very Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year to all our Members and Moderators.
             The mince pies are terrible. They force you to eat them and before you know, you have downed half a dozen,
              We are all waiting for Santa,    Diese, Old Nat,Baby Blink, Mrs Biff and Myself,
                         To you, One and all. Have a good one.
                                                         Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 26, 2015, 11:03:34 AM
All is calm, all is bright,n,good.
                        Presents came from afar for Diese, One fat Christmas puddin with holly and berries on it and a squeaker inside,with mop like dimples called the Mop Christmas Puddin. Two young men addressed it specially to him and he was very taken with it. They all had Turkey,ham and anything going. Diese,s new toy found it,s way up against the bars of Blink,s cage and he accidentally held it there for a good half hour. Her antics enthralled him and the newspapers that I laid around his position soon became covered in slobber facepalm .The new toy was held at an awkward angle and as her little paws streaked out to pull it, his jaws closed over them in slow motion. This seemed to really amuse him to no end. She was not the slightest bot bothered. His hot breath was a different matter and somehow he knew to redirect it away sideways at times. His perfected the method of sending his long tongue in under the paper on the base of her cage and flicking the paper up and down to bamboozle her. When she would pull the paper back hesitantly, there was this slobbery long tongue retreating back. She would answer with all kinds of acrobatics feats,sometimes crashing into the bars next to his head and sending him back in alarm. After a couple of hours,she would become quite clumsy in movement and then suddenly lie down and go to sleep under his nose. In the beginning this alarmed him to no end, He would trot over to me and then point to the cage. reassurances were useless, She had to wake up and look at him a few times before he understood. Going for walks are a problem for him but not for her. he does not like her around when he is doing his toilet, Natily is indifferent but Diese recons he is a gentleman.
 On our return journey, Blink ran to the hedge, so I had a look down into the undergrowth and some 20ft away at the base of a tree, Plu was making herself quite conspicuous, She is still in my bad books,She also looks sleek and plump. I know her plan even before she turns up in the green store. She sees Blink as a nursemaid to her new brood. Tommy and her green malicious eyes are still an open wound.  I have other plans.
  I wonder at all the complicated twists and turns that nature throws at us. Was Plu born a bad egg did bad things happen to her that warped her perception of everything around her. Mrs Hubs was in a different league. She would never beg and regarded me as a complete fool. She was special and different times I was told by different people that she was a witch. How I laughed outright at that and that did not help. I was never able to invade Mrs hubs space like I did Plu,s. She would not tolerate it for a second. So I ask myself, How come this little bundle of fur is so trusting and decent to Diese.
 She seeks his company and has never as much as spat or tried to warn him off. She comes when she is called and she keeps her litter tray immaculate, never soiling her bed or her toys and this is a" wild feral cat", She made no friendly greetings to Plu this morning and walked by between the hounds but perhaps they had already exchanged greetings before I came on the scene and she may have been showing off to the mother, She is rather extrovert and does show off and that is a good thing. She has improved the quality of Diese,s life a lot.
 I just hope I have done my homework and that Plu does not bring the whole lot crashing down. Diese would be very upset. Blink will soon be 6 months old, (how time flies) I have plans for Plu and plans for blink but you know what Rabbie used to say,,,,," The best laid schemes of Mice and Men gang aft a-gley".................
                                                                 Biff
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on December 26, 2015, 03:44:03 PM
They twist you around those cats.
You just have to admit you are not the boss!!! ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 26, 2015, 08:04:36 PM
You are right Tod,
             These pesky cats are not given to taking orders,
(http://s11.postimg.org/gpli43myn/DSCF0440.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gpli43myn/), This guy is her slave and even gives her  his Christmas puddin  Yuk horror:.


(http://s10.postimg.org/3yns091h1/DSCF0441.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3yns091h1/)   facepalm  and soggy as well, like her head which is quite soggy with all the licks he gives her.
                                               
                              Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 26, 2015, 09:11:56 PM
(http://s1.postimg.org/magd9x8m3/DSCF0461.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/magd9x8m3/)   "Oh Yiiikes, !! This one has got no legs"

(http://s15.postimg.org/ah3q58kvb/DSCF0449.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ah3q58kvb/)    " Loook,!  all for you,"


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 29, 2015, 10:40:25 AM
 The days stagger towards 2016,
                                 Unbelievable,!! 2016 !! We are talking to the world on Skype and txting at the same time to the other.
  Diese has managed to slow down his heart beat and reduce the amount of dribbling to almost zero but once she begins an acrobatic performance in her cage, He gets really interested for a few moments. The clockwork rat was very good and the two of them had a great time with it,however last night,when I went to wind it up, There was a sharp dent in it,s head and an eye and a wheel were missing, only one of them has that kind of jaw power and it is not Blink. He has learned not to chase her about all over the place but instead,to wait till she comes back or tries to sneak up on him.
  She seems to be quite happy in her cage but prefers Diese,s company asleep nearby. Her romps around the room follow the same pattern mostly and she seems to have learned to not get up on the furniture. Getting up on the furniture meant that she went back in the cage immediately, She will tease, she will hop up onto a chair,look at me as I rise to get up and then jump off to hide under the table or some spot that is hard to access. She might sound like a lot of bother but because of the use of the cage, it can all be fitted in with the normal runnings of the house. (mostly). She spends the nights inside now and sleeps right through, without a bother. She eats like a horse and soon she will be down to 2 meals a day. She uses her litter tray and has never to date left a calling card anywhere in the house. (Touchwood) She has been very good for Diese, He is bright eyed and cheery these days. If I want to find Blink in a hurry out side, all I have to do is ask him and within a minute he will have tracked her down and pointed out her nest. She sometimes goes to ground under a few tons of old tree roots, during the storms. I cannot hear the sound that he makes but he must make some kind of sound like a whine because she will appear within the minute usually,warm and drowsy. She will not ignore him.
 We have work to do, Soon we will have visitors who will want to get married to her but we have other plans that will hopefully work alongside nature.
 Sad to say, Tommy never returned and little Richie McCaw will not remember a thing about the green store, Plu is lying low these days. I do not see her but I know she is about, The hint of food that I leave for her on the shelf is gone in the morning. Like Mrs Hubs,,she bides her time and picks the moment to strike but maybe I will make the first move. If I was able to trap Mrs Hubs, i will have no trouble trapping Plu. I will increase the amount on the shelf.,I am such a kind heart.
                                                                         Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on December 30, 2015, 08:23:49 AM
Silly post and apologies for stretching the limits on the word 'pet', but we've just watched the film Jurassic World, and the following headline from the Guardian reminded me of Jeff Goldblum's line from the original film, Jurassic Park:

"I'm, I'm simply saying that life, uh... finds a way. ..."

Lion booked in for second vasectomy after partner gives birth (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/29/white-lion-brutus-second-vasectomy-partner-cubs-birth-south-africa)

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 30, 2015, 09:21:10 AM
Hi Mart,
       I wondered if you disagreed with keeping Blink in her cage overnight or while we are otherwise occupied with household choirs. Cats like to roam free and cats go where they like to go.
   Then there is the security of the cage for feeding and when she is tired and wants to sleep or play her games on her own. In there she never feels intimidated by the sheer size of Diese and can retreat and go to sleep when she feels like it. The only alternative was to keep her outside through the storms and flooding. She spends the best weather outside and ranges free,yet comes when she is called.
At the moment, She seems very content and if she complains,,Diese will pop in to talk to her, which is quite often.
  This is not cage training like some folks use to train stubborn breeds of dogs but more of a stop gap until I learn enough about the subject to make a proper decision.
 I know nothing about cats or very very little. I am allergic to cats fur and have been since i was small,so this whole adventure is totally new ground for me. Mrs Biff is very taken with Blink and they connect well. Cruelty to animals is usually born out of ignorance and stupidity,more than the deliberate attempt to be cruel. Strange as it may seem, I knew three vets personally who were banned from keeping both horses and dogs, Two of them treated dogs of mine, one was 92 when she was banned and I felt a kind of sorry for her because I knew that she was no longer capable of looking after herself never mind her animals. I can only say that she was an excellent vet and no one was more surprised to read about her case in the papers than I was.
 We all have different views on how to handle things, Plu has won each round so far and I have no intention of letting her use Blink and dominate her while she founds a super colony,So i have picked a friendly farmer,the guy who has a problem with rodents in his grain store and Plu will be getting a brand new job as head of pest control on his farm as soon as I can trap her. He is keen and Plu is of the character that will suit him right down to the ground.
                                                    Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on December 31, 2015, 07:54:23 AM
Hiya Biff. To be honest, no idea about cats and cages. If she seems happy then don't worry yourself. Cats seem to like having a small safe place (like a nest) when they are young. Due to decorating coincidences we always seemed to have a 'mucky' room available each time we acquired another lost cat, so they always got locked away at night till they were older (spayed/neutered 6 months(ish)) so the older cats could still use the cat flaps, or in Flash's case, as he was a big tough feral, till we were sure he trusted us, then it was his choice to stay or go ..... he slept between Wifey and me last night, so 18 months on I think his views are clear.

Fifi the GDP is crate trained. In fact it's one of the Guide Dog requirements. Though when she gets older we are allowed to let her sleep in a basket (etc) so long as she can't wander the house, so locked in kitchen, or dog gate across kitchen door for instance. It's not that they are draconian, it's just that the dogs have to be trained for a worse case scenario, so no going up stairs, on the furniture etc in case their owners don't allow it. Of course, if their owners don't mind that's fine, but harder to train it out, than in.

She likes her crate, sometimes preferring to sleep there than in the living room with us, but again, strict rules that the crate is never to be used as punishment, it's her safe, den, place stuffed with blankets, dressing gowns and a large toy (or two) for cuddles. She only gets locked in at night, or if we leave the house (2hrs max).

Thinking about Blink's cage, I'm sure your dogs are very well behaved, but feeding her there sounds like a good idea, as cats are grazers, unlike dogs, so it's better to leave food down, but can be tricky with dogs able to clean a bowl in one mighty lick.

I reckon you should just go with the flow, if she didn't like 'crate time' she wouldn't keep coming back, and cats aren't stupid, they do seem to like the safety of a household with a dog. Territory disputes especially with un-neutered Toms that roam/patrol each night can cause cats a lot of stress, but a garden or land patrolled by even friendly dogs, tends to keep the riff raff away.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on January 03, 2016, 11:45:06 AM
The weather facepalm,
                   Normally when I open our front door and set Blink down on the step, She takes off across the yard in bounds of joy. You could almost hear her shout,"Freedom" but this morning the wind blew the door back in and Blink had to struggle to get off the step. I had not realised it was so rough, So I opened the door again and set her in her cage after a dry down and a romp with the rat who has suffered terribly, His wheels and undercarriage are gone and he must be dead by now,but she still returns to make sure by giving him deadly killer bites on the back of the neck and pedaling his would be intestines out on the floor. Diese has managed to curb his excitement and his drooling is now back down to almost zero.
  On the other hand, He has taken it upon himself to remind me to let her out to play round the floor and indeed he also opened the cage door himself and let her out no less than 3 times untill he buckled the cage door,leaving it twisted in such a way that it is now very difficult for me to even open the two catches because while one works freely,the other is jammed almost solid. (You will not believe this,,,he has just sprung her again as I type this. I had forgotten to slide the difficult catch(lower one) into place.
  So there you are. Blink now free outside and Diese all shy and bashful.
 She is very bold and spoiled now and developing this stalking habit of jumping out in  front of everybody, especially Diese. I would not class her as a nuisance quite yet but she is working toward that title.
 She is without doubt an outdoor girl and is now fit and strong and well able to look after herself. I will still give her a bed for the night and good food and hopefully she will remain on good terms with us. I have no illusions that somehow,she would blend into the household and become one of the family, I am off the opinion that she will be able to do this better from outside the house,rather than inside and once the good weather comes back she should be ready to make it under her own steam with a bit of food supplement. It is fascinating watching her different modes of gene inheritances ,kick in.
 She perfects her pounce on the rat from all kinds of different angles. It was she who crushed the head after all and left the marks on the underside of the plastic throat. the skid marks of her little incisor can be seen repeatedly sliding into the main puncture hole in the throat, She is born to hunt and kill without the slightest hesitation. She cannot help it. All I have to do to catch her is roll the rat at my feet and she has to pounce on it. Just like the brown trout to the mayfly on a breezy day.
  Even different breed of dogs inherit different traits of behaviour. Not just to hunt and to track but to obey and to be biddable. Domesticated wolves stay quite tame until they reach maturity but they are very much their own boss before the 2 year time frame arrives. They will not take orders from any human unless the people involved have a hold over them,through pups and traveling outside their patch(with the pups). Domesticated Dogs go through a little rebellious stage at 8weeks. It is hardly noticeable, their little sharp teeth pull and rip at bones and bite the hand that reaches down to help and that is the time where the conditioning starts. The Shepard pup learns not to snap but to be patient while the marrow is spooned out of the big cow thigh bones.They learn the reward for patience.
  The large aggressive breeds that link to the Spitz and are more original, don,t bother with this rebellious pup streak, they just take it all in their stride. However, They have to be conditioned to handle commands before adolescence arrives because such very personal things like bones,etc will not be given up quite so readily. That is where the training comes in . They are taught to fetch, drop,leave and come to heel. The confrontation over the bone is removed and the inhibitor is gently installed. Experienced trainers and handlers look out for certain traits that signal a certain type of dog 12 months into the future. It does not always go to plan. Nothing is ever perfect. the beauty of a good dog handler is that he can mask the dogs faults and even make them disappear over time if the dog proves to be excellent in other departments.
 Lorenz wrote great stuff in "Solomon,s Ring" and "Man Meets dog" and yet again in "Upon Aggression". These books used to be my bibles on animal behavior,  Peter Neville is excellent and very down to earth. Cesar Millan "is" very good. They do not get it right every time. You have to allow for the loose cannon of insanity creeping in. It happens in dogs as well as humans.
  We would need to live several lifetimes to get it right but by then we would have got fed up dealing with the educated idiots.
 As for Blink, She is an incredible little being,full of guile and charm,who can go on the defensive,fake hurt and seconds later bound around the place like a joyful dervish. Her co-ordination is improving and she does not crash as much as she did. If she is anything like her Mam,she will be quite a handful.
                                                                    Biff
 NB, It is wrong to generalise,like I have done here. There are so many exceptions to the rule that it makes a mockery out of tables and graphs, Yet there is a basis or a starting point from which to set sail, From the singing Dhole dogs to the long legged red wolf of Patagonia,with its blood filled spongy pads for bouncing up and down after mice,not to mention the African wild dogs..
  These adaptable genes never cease to amaze us.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on January 03, 2016, 08:57:45 PM
Alan the Rottweiler is now about 8 months old. He's growing in to a fine young dog, he's got some puppy cheekiness of course but is extremely well behaved

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/Animals/20160101_133929_zpswwsqwwgi.jpg)

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/Animals/20160101_133933_zpsg7egmqjo.jpg)

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/Animals/20160101_133949_zpsq7egzjes.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on January 03, 2016, 09:41:03 PM
GB,
 Arn,t they the terrible lickers?
  I have never know a breed like them for licking you every chance they get.
  Very nice dog, I wish you the best of luck.
                              Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on January 03, 2016, 09:49:53 PM
Is he ever, lick lick lick, all the time!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on January 08, 2016, 12:10:26 AM
Blink has adapted well to her change of fortune,
                                           She has private sleeping quarters, Private toilet and a dining area with papers to cover her meal when she is finished. She gets the run of the living room in the early morning, I put her meal into her cage,she is quite happy to eat in there with the door open or closed,Then if the weather is good and not freezing,she takes off into the big world around 9ish and does not need to come in again until around dark unless it gets very stormy and bitter cold, Then I open the front door,,call her,wait a minute and then she walks in, straight up the stairs,right into the living room and into her cage to eat. Natily and Diese are timed to have their meals at the same time,so there is no horse play and games of hide and seek.
   Diese is still very taken with her but Natily is not overly keen and will steal her treats very quickly if she decides to show off and tease her with it. Diese on the other hand is mesmerised by her hunting skills and acrobatics,I think he believed that she was only visiting and not supposed to stay as long as she has and now that the penny has dropped he wants to be able to organise some kind of pecking  order which of course is not an option as far as Blink is concerned, He will tell on her when she gets up on the seats and push her off with his nose but half the time,Blink is only doing it to tease him and wind him up. They greet each other properly outside which is nice, Natily is a little indifferent but she is a tad off hand anyhow and Diese is her golden boy,so there is a nose slightly out of joint but will come OK in time.We have never allowed a cat in the house before and this time is it only on a trial basis but Blink seems to understand and has not put a paw wrong since she came in the door, no puddles or postcards,she stops her game and zooms into her cage to her toilet quarter when the need arises,,then after a bit of digging and rearranging the litter,,re,emerges and get back into the game. It takes 10 minutes to change her litter each morning and I must design and build a better system, She is 6 months old in a 2 weeks time and I am going to have to get some kind of advice from the vet. Plu is about but staying out of sight.So far so good, Hopefully we can get Blink into the spring and the good weather. She grown a lot in the time she has been in our care,
 She is one of the most entertaining little characters you could wish for and certainly brightened up Diese,s life. I have not attempted to train her or boss her but she is now showing a sense of humour and bold teasing antics which is good. She is the ultimate super sluth and her body language is classic stuff which I recognise in the old paintings by the dutch masters. There is an innocence in her that is hard to put along side Plu and one cannot help but come to the conclusion that the hard life drove Plu to the point of bitter malice. I was to expect all kinds of problems with Blink,with the mother that she had and the harsh treatment that she got from Plu but the opposite has been the case, She is well balanced and extremely intelligent. One can only wonder how that came about.
                                                       Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: MR GUS on January 08, 2016, 09:47:49 AM
Crate trained does not need any excuses making for it, it's the stupidity of the minds eye of a human pure & simple.

Give a dog a crate, safe, dark, large enough to turn around  & stretch & you are fine, we tend to call them the night cage & that means that they are well protected from draughts & heat loss incurred from open spaces.

Safe & preferable imho, they wander in of their own accord & snooze on the vet bedding fleece & extra's ...an often fought over space precisely because it so appreciated by  "Captain sexy-pants & the ladies".

Even in their large pen there is a cage within, large enough for 3 boxers or 4 at a grumble with the door open.

What humans need to think about is why bitches & queens look for small safe dark places to give birth in the night for & get rid of pre-conceptions, a crate is only a bad place if a rotten human makes it so!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on January 11, 2016, 11:56:38 AM
Crate trained does not need any excuses making for it, it's the stupidity of the minds eye of a human pure & simple.

Give a dog a crate, safe, dark, large enough to turn around  & stretch & you are fine, we tend to call them the night cage & that means that they are well protected from draughts & heat loss incurred from open spaces.

Safe & preferable imho, they wander in of their own accord & snooze on the vet bedding fleece & extra's ...an often fought over space precisely because it so appreciated by  "Captain sexy-pants & the ladies".

Even in their large pen there is a cage within, large enough for 3 boxers or 4 at a grumble with the door open.

What humans need to think about is why bitches & queens look for small safe dark places to give birth in the night for & get rid of pre-conceptions, a crate is only a bad place if a rotten human makes it so!

Quite right, ours are all crate trained and 2 of our adults still eat in theirs (to avoid GDV/bloat after meals)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on January 11, 2016, 11:56:52 AM
updated pack shot:

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/Animals/IMG_0045_zpswihi6gkk.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on January 11, 2016, 11:59:50 AM
Super photo GB.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: MR GUS on January 11, 2016, 12:32:35 PM
My god! ..& I thought we were suckers for trouble with 4 boxers (1 recently adopted)  facepalm  ;D

I guess you've seen that "island pack" off Vancouver!? ...that's a sight to behold!

Was just talking to the wife about our boy, who is still poorly, we are coaxing him along (he's happy enough) ,..but his illness will warrant (we'll want) an autopsy come his time ..more animals ought to be offered (well you pay actually) for a vet school like the Fitz to carry it out, there is not enough progress made in animal medicine & treatment without.

 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on January 11, 2016, 01:31:15 PM
Nice pack GB,
               But boy o boy, there is a lot of work there. ;D. We had 4 dogs for a while and I recall that it was not that much trouble because 2 were quite senior citizens and the other 2 were rather respectfull . They got along well. One moment I am thinking of getting another dog and the next I put it off because old Nat is struggling sometimes and another dog might put too much pressure on her. Blink is bad enough at teasing her but I could imagine another young dog bouncing about her and Nat not being able to tell it off,like she does Blink.
         Is the collie high up on the left to the front, wall eyed or have different colored eyes,? GB.
                                                                                     Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on January 11, 2016, 01:47:52 PM
Ha yes they are a fair bit of work that's for sure. Can't wait to move to the farm, walking them will be easier!

Yes the rotti has come along this year and 'partnered up' with the big young leonberger (front left), they're inseparable and she's young enough and big enough to give as good as she gets (and he'll never out grow her), Alan can often be found hanging off of her neck or limbs

The collie is a red merle and merles often have different coloured eyes


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on January 11, 2016, 05:04:32 PM
Wow what a pack.
Are you the alpha male?
I recon that the dog towels take up more washing than the two of us combined and we only have 3
Great picture GB surrender:


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on January 11, 2016, 08:36:04 PM
ha ha most certainly not, that privilege goes to my good lady :)

In fact she has always said "last in, first out" (only one dog has come in since me and i think she loves him enough to make an exception), that shows you my place in the group.... surrender:

Tell me about it, it's crazy, the washing machine and tumble dryer are alwasy going  help:
Before Charley i lived alone in a small farm property with one cat. Talk about chalk and cheese. In addition to the 7 dogs we also have 8 cats (They won't sit for a nice picture like the dogs  ;D )


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: MR GUS on January 12, 2016, 11:00:34 AM
I can agree, whilst i'm an Alpha, I'm still lower down the pack than "Special Ed" (one of many names you'll hear him referred to as).


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on January 12, 2016, 11:22:17 AM
Christmas present ?

(http://s24.postimg.org/qu1ty8old/P1080744.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qu1ty8old/)

The alpha is in the box :genuflect :genuflect :genuflect


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on January 14, 2016, 11:02:11 AM
There is a change in the weather,
                              We have had our first serious hard freeze but at least it is dry out there, ;D. Blink continues to thrive and grow. Her relationship with Diese is a strange one. He is no Lennie Small and she no Curley,s wife but there have been time when she has walked away completely covered in slobber and not happy about it. Little by little she shows her self to care and that is a surprise. Last night she got somewhat over zealous and leapt up on a shelf in the corner knocking down a few dust catchers with a right old bang. Diese retreated to the other side of the room and i went and picked up the bits and put them slowly back on the shelf. I was very aware of her sitting next to me,looking sideways at what i was doing. There was no scolding or harsh words,there was no need, Diese,s actions said it all. I just picked her up and sat her on my knee and there she stayed quite still for a good half hour with Diese dozing next to us.
  The early morning boisterous activity is just the same as her Mam,s and siblings. She gets hyper just before dawn and can hardly stop to eat when I open the cage. So this must be some kind of thing that cats in general do our what this breed does but I could well do without it. For a while she had taken to launching herself off the floor, landing on the headrest of my rocker,flipping back onto the front edge of the seat and sending the lot crazy, but after a few discouraging words she eased off on that one. She is spoiled rotten but somehow I think it is the right thing to do. She is sensitive despite being very extrovert and showing off all the time. Out in the yard,she will not bother me unless I call her, She does her own thing. Diese will go looking for her unless I say No.  Her cage is left open for her to come and go to her litter which she uses every time. She is a very clean animal and touch wood,there have been no mistakes yet. I always know when she want to be left alone to go and do her business in her cage, she gets visibly agitated and after a few dummy decoy moves,will slip off and disappear on Diese, I tell him to leave her be. Then she will come out looking for him. So far I have only seen her do one thing that annoys him and that was teasing old Nat who yelped in pain after being woken by Blink hiding by her stubby tail and clawing it,then moving to her paws. She has stopped that.
  So they can find their own way with just the slightest touch of the tiller and a little reward. It is nice to see and a great reward in itself.
                            Biff
                             


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Nickel2 on January 14, 2016, 01:04:33 PM
It's that time of year again. This morning has seen my first pair of blue tits investigating the nest-box on the workshop wall. It's north-facing and sheltered, so they might just be looking for a roost. It froze last night, and Mr weather says it will be very cold tonight, maybe minus 10c. I'm not sure it's the right time to start raising a brood before the leaves have broken and the insects/caterpillars/food becomes available.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 02, 2016, 04:27:39 PM
Here's some picks of Fifi getting used to her jacket. Nobody told me she'd be 20kg at 6 months!


(http://s14.postimg.org/fkjd28eu5/IMG_1977.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/fkjd28eu5/)


(http://s11.postimg.org/z5aw048j3/IMG_1985.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/z5aw048j3/)

Mart.

PS. Did ponder saying something about a pretty b***h in uniform, but decided I'm too classy to post that sort of smut! M.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on February 02, 2016, 05:09:40 PM
Wonderful! She looks more real than the dog on the logo. ;D
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on February 02, 2016, 05:23:38 PM
She is the picture of health M,
     and a credit to your care.
                     Lovely dog,
                                   Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on February 02, 2016, 08:52:44 PM
Lovely M great photos. Absolutely adorable.

How does she get on with Flash?

Well done.





Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 03, 2016, 07:25:54 AM
Thanks guys, she is a sweetheart.

Tod, she 'sort of' gets on well with Flash. They were good from day one, and I made sure to protect her eyes as he got used to her and told her he was the boss, but I didn't want to force it, so didn't make them spend time together.

Unfortunately as fast as Flash was letting his guard down, Fifi was growing, so we've had a friendly stalemate. Flash squawks at her (as he was feral he doesn't know how to meow) in a friendly way, and will walk close to her if she is sleeping. But when she's bouncy he skirts around her, and she'll half chase him, so long as his pointy ends are facing in the other direction.

We've got Fifi to sit and placed cat treats nearer and nearer to her, but everytime Flash gets within about a foot of her, she backs away. When Flash shows he's friendly, she squats down, bum in the air then bounces and barks in a friendly way, but that makes Flash hiss ...... so it seems they are both friendly and happy and giving off all the right signals, but have a language problem.

I'd say they are right at the point of nose touching, which could happen today or in 6 months time, after that I expect they'll be good friends and Flash will spend a lot of time rubbing up against her, he seems that sort of friendly cat, quite pack-ish, for a cat.

Moe our extremely nervous 15yr old (ex feral kitten) has simply decided she's the devil, so sleeps upstairs in the day, then goes out at night when the dog/baby gates are open, and she's locked in her crate.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 24, 2016, 07:39:05 AM
Got a new toy for Fifi.

She tends to eat her food very, very fast, so this is a way of slowing her down a bit, and also a lazy way to exercise her. Here's the kit:

(http://s9.postimg.org/8cv5ssozf/IMG_1998.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8cv5ssozf/)

A food dispenser, an activation button, a rubber holder for the button, and a large lump of MDF (upside down) to stop her knocking the button around, or, believe it or not, carrying it over to the dispenser! Interestingly, with the MDF lump on it, she touches the button gently with her nose, but without the MDF she pounces on the button and green holder with her paws.

The dispenser is a little random on how much comes out (which is adjustable) so to prevent too many 'blanks' I opened the gap a bit more, but mixed in 50% carrot chunks to spread it out a bit. Whilst she's playing with this, I get the rest of her food ready and soaking in some water.

Video of Fi using it. (https://www.dropbox.com/s/80dk5e8tqk8oq0m/Fifi%20Food.AVI?dl=0)

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on February 24, 2016, 08:41:56 AM
Good one Mart,
            Great training for using remote controls. I like the way she takes her time going back and forth.
  She is one clever dog.
                                                Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 25, 2016, 01:27:19 PM
Cheers Biff. I'm quite surprised how controlled (nice little trot) she is. But without the wood weight, she goes a bit hyper, pouncing on the button and rubber holder. Perhaps she's a bit unsure of the wood as it doesn't quite balance (needs thicker pads) so she leans over it and very gently touches the button with her nose.

What's interesting to see also is if it doesn't beep (when she doesn't press it properly) she turns back and does it again, so she's learnt no beep no food.

She's doing well, but a little too friendly and still puppy jumps up at people when off the lead. She thinks everyone is her best friend, but 21kg of bouncy (often muddy) puppy is some folks dream, and some folks nightmare. I wish everyone was an easy going dog lover.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: nowty on April 12, 2016, 11:22:40 PM
My cats have a habit of finding the most sunny warmest position in the garden.

As it was very sunny today I moved my cold frames away from the walls a little to allow some air flow and it did not take long for my cats to take advantage.

(http://s5.postimg.org/z23h5my93/Cats_in_Coldframe.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on April 13, 2016, 07:22:37 AM
 :hysteria :hysteria
They will be after room service ext  whistle


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on April 13, 2016, 08:25:54 AM
 Hi Nowty,
          Maybe they used to watch a little mouse run around in there before you moved it away from the wall and now they are inside waiting hopefully for it,s return.
   They also get massive protection from eagles and vultures,wolves and Arctic foxs. Too much TV is bad for our furry friends. Our poor hound flattens his ears every
   time the creepy music starts in "Midsummer,s Murders".
                                                      Biff
  


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on April 17, 2016, 12:23:50 PM
(http://s22.postimg.org/lfjpt9j0t/011.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/lfjpt9j0t/), He is sitting down in the back and the seat is tilted forward.
   This is the best way for him to travel. He sits with his rear end braced into one corner and he does not have to work hard to keep his balance. If the rear seat is flat,
   there is too much room for him to get hurt if I had to brake hard in an emergency. He loves the jeep and wants to sit in the back all day if he can.

(http://s23.postimg.org/x28vrxkhz/003.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/x28vrxkhz/) This is where he was today, The hard wet sand is good for his paws and undercarriage.
     

(http://s22.postimg.org/emtgr84ul/001.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/emtgr84ul/)  There is a national school gable end to the left of this pic.. The road to Glengesh/ Glencolmcille is across the sand running along the foot of the mountain. You can see the waterfall to the left of the pic.

(http://s24.postimg.org/cydjpc2pt/012.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cydjpc2pt/)  The view might be awe inspiring but you cannot eat a view,. Many,s a strong heart would have arrived home from school,,footed turf,,tatty hoked, counted the few pennies he had,walked this road to the boat and never came back. Desolation road may be fine for the tourist, but it is mean street for the farmers who try and live here.

(http://s23.postimg.org/iztdw7093/002.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/iztdw7093/) Glengesh in the middle.The road goes straight up the mountain untill near the top where there are about 4 or 5 switch backs, Not for the faint hearted in icy conditions and it does freeze quickly. Dylan Thomas would have walked that road in his time.
                                                                  Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on April 17, 2016, 12:44:33 PM
 ;D
What fantastic pictures, he looks a very happy boy.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on April 17, 2016, 03:57:11 PM
Believe it or not,
               We have a forecast for frost and snow
                                           Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on April 22, 2016, 01:09:57 PM
Fifi has got a new boyfriend. Not content with shoving her nose under a gate at the bottom of the road to greet the Dogue de Bordeaux every time we pass, she has now made 'super best friends' with Alfie:


(http://s31.postimg.org/gelqtt9dj/IMG_2047.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gelqtt9dj/)


(http://s31.postimg.org/ei3px7kqf/IMG_2050.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ei3px7kqf/)


Alfie is a 15 week old Newfoundland. He's 20kg, and has paws like mits, they're twice the size of Fi's already. In a few more weeks he'll probably be taller and longer than her, and push past her 26kg weight. She won't be winning many more wrestling matches as his power is already incredible. For reference, Fi is about the size of a small adult female Lab now and is 9 months old.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 09, 2016, 09:42:58 AM
Old Nat,s grave,
                Is almost down flush with the front lawn. I will tidy it a bit more before I mow the whole lawn. Diese has slowed down a lot and if we are not careful
  he will start to slip away. So I have been chasing through the "Dogs for sale" adds looking for the "Right one".
 I think I found her but It will be a few months before we can be sure. I liked what i saw in her pics. Now you might think that there would not be a lot that you could
 tell from looking at dog pics but I believe that you can see enough to put you off. The camera can betray a lot in a dog. She is supposed to be 2 and a half years old
 but they are never ever younger, certainly older but never younger, I was once sold a dog that was supposed to be 3 years old and was 5 years+ instead, however
 she gave us the best years of her life and switched to my side within 2 hours of meeting 4 legged Biff and myself. She could hardly tolerate the sight of her previous owners.
 I was supposed to collect Shelia from Galway yesterday but I cancelled on Friday night, I had been carrying and stacking logs and I was simply knackered, however
 today, I head south to collect her and hopefully all will go well. She should put a bit of life into Diese,,who is now..........."Old Diese" ;D
 He is one of the most thoughtful, kindly and considerate beings on the planet,,though he don,t look it, but he is. I will have to make sure that he is not taken advantage off.
 Old Nat was his perfect companion, She adored his intelligence and he was so keen to demonstrate it to her, she did lay down the law to him when required.
 She ended up watching the dog shows, on telly with him, so see what he was getting excited about. Hopefully Shelia will settle in.
            It is going to be very hot out there,,I am hoping for a few hours rain around 3pm.
                                                                                   Biff
                                


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: MR GUS on May 09, 2016, 12:19:38 PM
Almost lost our oldest dog (the sensible one) to hypoxia yesterday, close call now monitoring her.

she lay on the granite floor to escape the heat & be close by while we milled around the house.
whilst no-one was in the room she tried to get up, her collar looped around the "aesthetically styled" top to bottom, panicked & tried to pull upwards.. disasterous results.

Wife walked into kitchen whilst dog was panic fighting the situation, shouted for me, I had propel two of the other 3 now very excited dogs out of the way to give enough space to bodyslam the dog to the floor in order to be able to manouvre her collar to a point where it could be freed.

(the clip release was under so much pressure that there was no movement / purchase to get it off).

Can't tell what has gone on inside the brain (obviously) & she is an older dog now so anyones guess.. hoping it doesn't bring on a stroke or similar.
She is sleeping it off today, but ate ok last night (always a sign)

One of those things that you don't deem to be a hazard till it happens! ..samsung fridge, would have been a whole different story if it had been one of the other dogs with more "panic strength" & youth.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 09, 2016, 01:51:53 PM
You did well Gus,
              You saved the day, Little accidents like these are always waiting in the wings.
  Some 40 years ago, I had a pair of very good Shepards, I attended a school where Billy Maybury was one of the trainers.
  One of the excercises that I gave my best dog was to bounce a ball of a wall that came back approx 8 to 10 feet abope myself and the dog,
  He could easily leap up and catch the ball,then return it to me and wait for the next one, The ball in question was a big solid rubber one,
 approx 80mm in diameter, Billy warned me twice to get rid of the ball.
  This day, I was throwing the ball as usual, about the 4th time he jumped to catch it, He seemed to miss it and when he landed he began looking everywhere for it,
  I had been watching him closely and was mystified, This guy never missed,! I remember standing there wondering where the ball had gone and then I noticed my dog begin to stagger and go down,,,  I ran over and looked down his throat. I could see nothing, then I felt the big lump at the top of his chest. It was no good trying to catch him round the stomack and suddenly try to burst it out. I had very little time left and I forced my hand down his throat and with the other hand, I pushed on the lump and slowly guided the ball back to daylight.
 I hammered on his chest, caught his two front paws and slammed him off the deck, I shook him like mad and he stirred and woke up, not the slightest bit bothered,
 The first thing he did when he got to his feet was to go and try and pick that ball up. "Oh god no!" I said. I was covered in sweat and I headed into the house.
 His vocals were undamaged. Zac,,who was Billy,s top dog was not so lucky, Billy damaged them doing the same thing as I did, leaving Zac with no bark.
 My dog went from strength to strength, Peaked at 6 years old and gently went into retirement. He lived to the ripe old age of 13years but was only a shadow of his young days.
  That is how dogs differ, If they are too fine bred, they do not stand the test of time and need the vet just that bit too often.
                                                                             Biff
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 09, 2016, 04:12:32 PM
Well it did not happen,
                     I got a call around 12 that told me the collection was put off till tomorrow.....perhaps.
  Life and dogs are like that. If you buy a dog, pay for him there and then and take him with you because things might be different when you return.
  It might happen and it might not,
                                        Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 10, 2016, 10:41:26 PM
The call came and off I went south to collect this Lass,  ( Gawwwd but I am tired)
(http://s32.postimg.org/px2k8lxu9/007.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/px2k8lxu9/). She has had a very long day but hopefully it has all been worth it,
    She is very feminine ,charming and Diese was on his best behaviour. Their introduction was quite exciting with Diese standing back wondering what kind of a neurotic
   dame i had landed him with. Ah,! but she s not to be rushed even though she fancies him to no end..Then he just played Mr Cool." Take your time babes, I ain,t going nowhere"
    Then she fell asleep. We will soon find out what kind of a life she has had up until now..She has had no training to speak of and the people who took my money did not seem to
    know a lot about her. So she could have been retireved from some pound between here and Galway.. However.. her head is steady and solid and despite all the stresses of the day
    she did well.She has the head and build of a Shepard that I had over 40 years ago. At the moment,she cannot believe her luck, She will have to be trained to climb the stairs and her
    little curiosities will have to be checked. She is an excellent clean slate and with a little help, she will learn to enjoy herself properly.

(http://s32.postimg.org/c9l3v41ap/008.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/c9l3v41ap/)  (where am I)
                                              Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on May 11, 2016, 07:31:50 AM
Hiya Biff, she looks gorgeous. I've met simply too many dogs now to still have true favourites, but I think my heart still belongs to GSDs and Rotties.

Did you hear about the signs in Meath telling people to keep certain breeds on leads and muzzled? Wifey doesn't bother usually with this sort of thing, but she was outraged enough to post a response asking how GSDs can be classed as dangerous when they are used as guide dogs.

Thousands unhappy with dangerous dog warnings in Meath (http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/thousands-unhappy-with-dangerous-dog-warnings-in-meath-1.2640777)

Quote
The Public Safety Notices, which have been erected in a number of locations across Co Meath in the past week, warn that additional legal requirements are needed to protect children and adults in the vicinity of listed breeds of dogs.

It calls on owners of these breeds to ensure their pet is leashed and muzzled, wears a collar bearing the owners name and address and is under the control of a person over 16 years of age.
The dogs that appear on the notice are the American Pit Bull Terrier, the Rhodesian Ridgeback, the Bull Mastiff, the Doberman Pinscher, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, the Rottweiler, the German Shepherd, the English Bull terrier, the Japanese Akita and the Japanese Tosa.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 11, 2016, 10:57:19 AM
Hi M,
   Those notices went up in Letterkenny some 10 years ago, I think I was the only one who muzzled  dogs. I had to remove the muzzle after a few weeks because  other dogs tried to take advantage and attack my dogs. You could hardly credit it but that is exactly  what some dogs will do.
  I accepted the ruling back then and i would accept it even more now. Things have changed drastically here on the canine scene. We have at least 7 breeds of dogs that are banned completely in the UK. These dogs are selling openly in the free adds, etc. Many of them need experienced handlers. When the pit bulls got banned from England,,a lot of the owners sent their dogs to N/I to wait out the ban, thinking perhaps that it might be lifted. The results was that N/I got the very best bloodlines in Pit bulls( If you like that kind of thing, which i don,t) But you have to remember that we now have breeds of dogs here that could have a couple of Pit bulls for breakfast. 10 years ago, The America Akita,(the larger more aggressive one) cost 1200euros a pup now they are selling cheaper than rotties, But there are other larger and much more aggressive, specalised breeds for sale.(Mastiff breeds). Argentena, Peru, Italy, Span and Portugal.
  Then you have the east European group of Shepards,From Romania right across to far eastern Russia, The Baltic and Turkey. These are massive breeds but Shepard based.
  The modern Malinios is obviously carrying Pit bull blood, I have absolutely no doubt about that. These dogs are all turning up in Ireland and people can own one in a small terrace house.
  I shared space with a Canadian Timberwoof some16 years ago, He was awesome and the guy who owned him,just lived in the semi next door.He just had an ordinary dog licence.
 There is no talk about restrictions on licences as yet but there will be.
 I have to be honest and accept that there are people who are quite unhappy and uneasy to meet me walking my dogs, So I leave the path and give them right of way every time.
 I know that a perfectly well trained Shepard can attack and seriously injure a child for reasons that are not obvious at the time. There are also children with different brain patterns
 That will unsettle a dog and make them aggressive, just like mentally unbalanced people will unsettle a dog.
 Putting a muzzle on a dog is a gesture of goodwill and understanding, It is not a sign of weakness or perhaps having had the cops around to the house.
 It is good sense.
                      Biff
           


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: gravyminer on May 11, 2016, 12:03:31 PM
Biff
she looks lovely and reminds me of my last german shepard.
In my experience they are pretty smart dogs and train easily.

Do you think she is under three ? She kinda looks young and fit.


On the animal communication front, I watched that video a couple of times I referenced on another thread, regarding South African communicator Anna Breytenbach and was able to pick up what she was doing ......

So a few days later I went up on the hill / moorland nearby and wandered over to a group of wild ponies who were quietly grazing.
They are used to humans wandering around  so I got within about 10 m of the lead animal, sat quietly on a rock for a couple of minutes just focused on it and put out the thought -

I come in friendship, may we communicate ?

Then (this is the hard bit ) I totally shut down all thought and focused on slow breathing simply allowing any thoughts to 'come in' .
Some might call this meditation.
After about 20 seconds of being shut down but also wide open on the recieve, I was given a clear vision looking through the horses eyes, that had me realise that a horse/pony cannot actually see what its biting because its nose is hugely in the way, then a single word that said everything .......  Busy  ...... totally neutral in emotion. Not curious nor slightly annoyed yet friendly.

Wow ! it was a clear response from that animal.

Its not something Ive been able to repeat since and much harder to avoid 'projecting' what I think the dog is thinking with the family pet but my friend who has worked with Anna, said her first contact with a jack russell terrier had it communicate the thought .......  'I wish I was bigger'  ........  something that I have often felt about them as their teeth are so out of proportion with the rest of them and they often act like they are the size of their teeth.





Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: MR GUS on May 11, 2016, 01:33:34 PM
GM, writing a post like that must have taken some guts, especially as there is a lot of science argued round here.
those here with a bond & patience with animals will be open to what you are saying  / trying though.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 11, 2016, 03:05:39 PM
She was sold to me as just under 2 and a half years,
                                         If True, It will be the first time one if my countrymen told the truth about a dog he was selling ;D.
  I examined her teeth this morning and they are not fully developed. So she could be even under 2 years old. She is very underweight
 and cannot eat a lot at a time. She likes what she sees and Diese is good to her with plenty of patience with her playing hard to get.
 I am looking forward to them settling down together, She will be good for him and I am hoping that she is not a control freak.
 Time will tell. At the moment she is using charm with me but it is only skin deep, I appreciate the effort but the memories of her former owners
 and the confusing bad times will slip into the background. Trust has to be earned.
  There is so much about our canine friends that we do not know. 4 legged Biff demonstrated
 a very sound knowledge of people,s characters. He was normally very relaxed with women but on the two separate occasions that he took
 exceptions to their presence, He was some 20 ft away from them and not directly the target of their conversation.
 I had him under control but he did not settle until they left.He knew the members of my family and gave them great greetings only reserved
  for someone special. This was when he was 10months old and meeting them for the very first time.
 My kids used to fly in once a year, i kept a large 6 bed house, When the kids would land they would all sit down and say.
  Show us your dog,s tricks. (Now matter what dog I had, they all had party pieces,
 So i would  take a stuffed toy out of his box, Tell him to sit in the middle of the large living room with all the family sitting around,
 Then march down the hall,,Up the stair into each and every room, hiding the stuffed toy in a wardrobe of behind a dresser,without changing step.
 Now he is supposed to be sitting in exactly the same spot until I return. I can hear the kids all cracking up laughing, i know that he is tracking me
 on the ground floor going around with an exaggerated posture of listen to my footsteps ,,Then i am heading down the stair and then down the hall,
 and just as I open the living room door, he jumps into the exact spot where I had told him to stay,,I remember my kids telling me that he had been
 running around all over the place but i would calmly say,, nonsense,,he has not moved,, look at him," and yer man would be sitting like a statue
 still in the exact same spot. There were many little moves like that in him that he displayed a terrific sense of humor. He could pretend not to see
  a ball, if he was being sent down into a mucky hole to retrieve it, and my son would come into the house and tell me, " Hey dad,, Biff has lost the plot
  he cannot see the ball. and outside he would go,issue instructions to the dog and 4 legged Biff would look and look and see nothing..I would always give
  him a few minutes to enjoy it and then quietly send him in with a nod of my head.The response was immediate. My son was impressed.
 Hide and seek was another one. He would walk all round the darkened Garage  and not find them,,It meant the game lasted longer and they felt sorry for him
 when he finally did point them out, giving him big hugs,. He was not immune to sarcasm. Our canine friends know a lot lot more than we give them credit for.
 Memories,
            Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: gravyminer on May 11, 2016, 07:46:52 PM
GM, writing a post like that must have taken some guts, especially as there is a lot of science argued round here.
those here with a bond & patience with animals will be open to what you are saying  / trying though.


Thanks Mr Gus

I occasionally hang out with some very interesting people, some of them with university backgrounds, who explore the outer edges of science, the anomalous effects that the scientists hate like some of the quantum effects that demonstrate the power of intention.
Once you've broken through and are able to be more open to the weird poo, theres a whole world to discover that makes the world of science a bit less interesting. 

We hear folk say that if we can't hear it, see it, smell it or feel it, it doesn't exist but when you consider how narrow our fields of reception are and its logical that there will be frequencies beyond normal human perception, then its a fair question to want to know what there is just beyond our frequency ranges.

Most are aware of those little ultrasonic devices that allow us to 'listen' to bats echo  sounding. In fact its beyond our ability to hear these frequencies but simple electronics screws the frequency down to audible.

So what happens when this is done with light ?

Regular science just won't go there ........

But as you rightly say this is probably not the place to explore such thinking and yet when its apparent that some here can intuitively understand their animals ( just as the animals intuitively understand us ) then it is sometimes possible to get the logical 'left brain'  types to at least allow the possibility that a bit more science might be needed to explain things.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 11, 2016, 08:26:05 PM
It is really difficult to fathom something that you cannot see, feel or understand,
                                    For years, i have believed that Dogs see an aura or layer of hues of electronic impulses,some kind of chemical magnetic field.
   around us humans, They not only smell the different emotions,they sense the electric impulses as well
  They not so much see it as sense it through their Jacobson Canal which still functions properly in the more primitive breeds of dogs.
  The Spitz groups are a more original species than the Shepard, the Shepard type dogs are a recent evolution of the species.
  If a dog can give you a warning about some one they have never met before,,from over 100ft,through the windscreen of a car,
  Then they must be working some very hot technology indeed. It is not just smell or electrical impulses,there has to be something else as well.
  I have witnessed this type of thing for years and the dog was very seldom wrong , if ever. It is really strange.
                                                                        Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: MR GUS on May 11, 2016, 09:29:48 PM
GM, nope i'm with you all the way, I worked in sound & got used to frequency beyond the normal ear, ..& when there is an earth tremor (like at Oakham a few years back) ..it can easily set my ear off with vibrations, the wife just accepts i'm right now having had it confirmed.

I was also a "break magnetic strips" guy, & mobile phones hot ear +++.

For folk to not acknowledge that we are of limited frequency ranges & to ignore other species clearly superior & honed abilities are not really as clever as they imagine themselves to be.

which is why its so perplexing that folk don't take "frequency" more seriously.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: gravyminer on May 12, 2016, 09:43:02 AM
the wife just accepts i'm right now having had it confirmed.

Awesome Mr Gus  exhappy:  few can ever claim this ....

Your sensivity in regard to sound and possibly electro smog is not that unusual ( I know quite a few who struggle with this ) its just that its not repeatable enough for 'science' to accept and gets pushed into the weird stuff corner to be mocked by mainstream as delusional.

When the experience is totally real for you but not experienced by others around you, you earn to STFU after a while cos its not fun being ridiculed.
But now with the internet you will find many others who will be similarly blessed / cursed, some of whom are bright cookies and curious.
Don't expect any research funding though.

Clearly animals have different sensitivities to humans in some areas but there are humans who can pick up / connect to whatever frequencies are being utilised and ways to learn how to enhance our human receptors.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 12, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
(http://s32.postimg.org/9ky98zzsx/006.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9ky98zzsx/)
   We are getting there, She is still tired from her long journey. You can see it in her eyes in the pic above
                              Biff
 
 
   
   


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 13, 2016, 08:08:25 AM
Dear Mam,
          I am stuck up here in Donegal with a loon who believes that getting up at 6am and walking me around the place is normal behaviour.
 I don,t know what to make of him but his wife is very nice. I would take the bus straight back home only they are a kind of racist and do not
 allow us dogs on public transport plus the fact that i have a very bad tummy bug which gave me cramps and a dose of the scour.
 I have been on a diet of minced chicken breast,rice and rice water, little portions that would not feed a gnat.I am allowed into the house and
 I sprawl flat out sleeping but i have my eyes on the rubbish bag in the kitchen and the tasty bits on the table. Yesterday at 6pm, I sat on my
 extreme best behaviour and watched him eat a large salad dinner.There were these incredibly succulent chicken breasts and I watched as he ate
 one and did not even offer me a slice, Then, after he ate a large bowl of fruit and yogurt, His slave Diese wanders over and collects a slice of chick.
 Just as I was about to give out, he proffered me a really nice bit. I don,t remember what happened to it, One minute it was sitting on my tongue.
 I went cross eyed in disbelief, then it disappeared. I checked the floor to see if I had dropped it but no,! and this guy Diese was sitting looking the
 other way, trying to make me believe that he is not interested in me. They do things differently up here. They have silly uncanine rules.
 I cannot get into the rubbish bag or get up on the seats, He don,t shout or throw things but he is up out of his chair and across the room before
 I can blink.He is certainly not normal. I would forgive the cross words,etc if I could get into the bag properly but he don,t say a word apart from
 "Here Girl, and makes me think of something else to do.
  It is not a bad place all told. I would head back to Galway but I think I will hang round here a while longer to my tummy settles. Diese is quite nice
 but a real big softee. Last night, I permitted him to give me a good night lick..Yeahhh,,he is Ok you know, He is not as dumb as I first thought.
  Things are looking up Mam, Give my regards to the rest of the brood,
Lots of Love, Your Daughter
                         Shep.
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on May 13, 2016, 10:18:55 AM
....playing whoopee, gee that's better,
mother father kindly disregard this letter. ;D

apologies to Allan Sherman.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on May 13, 2016, 05:29:08 PM
New navipet at GB-towers!

Picked up a Raven 5 weeks ago (@ 3 weeks old)
Hopefully he'll live in the region of 40-50 years and have a jolly life on the farm

Here he is at 3 weeks:

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/Animals/62d76ed5-9198-41ff-8414-41ca5ab67f6c_zps1cgyyk2a.jpg)

4 weeks:

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/Animals/20160418_101404_zpscsuvtmg8.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcGqYfDmFmI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcGqYfDmFmI)


7weeks:

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/Animals/20160511_095556_zpsunzhqdh0.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0mzVLJ4is4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0mzVLJ4is4)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: gravyminer on May 14, 2016, 11:36:33 AM
Great letter home Biff
Hope her tummy settles soon.
We had to cut out meat entirely with our first Sheperd. She was a rescue that was living in a van in the corner of a field as her owner became homeless.
We'll just look after her for a couple of weeks while you sort yourself out .....

And Dale is a great name for a raven GB
I had to re check that pic of Dale at 4 weeks cos at first glance it looked like there was a ghostly cat apparition in the background  wackoold


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 14, 2016, 12:26:28 PM
 You are right GM,
              There is indeed a beady eye looking in on junior Raven.Little Shep will have to wait a while longer before any more big long trips. She is doing pretty good but full of fun and divilment.
  I am going to try her on mackerel tomorrow evening, I was to have her all ready for the 19th of this month,to present her to someone very special. Shep is a genuine bundle of merriment with great attitude and very game. I know that she is giving a little bother at the moment but once we hit the right road, it will all be plain sailing.
 She never learned to go up and down stairs, so that was a joyous victory for her which she shared with me. She is young in the mind but anything but stupid. The first day she came into house, She listened to Diese drinking from a bowl in the kitchen. When he had finished and walked into the living room where we were, Shep got up,walked into the kitchen, Picket up his drinking bowl,carried it into the living room where we were and slung it across the room. So I thought that she wanted a drink as well..Out i went and filled it again, I put it down on the floor for her. But she just sat back and looked at me. There is no evidence yet of any destructive tendencies which normally accompanies this kind of personality. Her head is 100% and she stops to reason things out. I showed her how to come down the stairs,step by step and of course doing it on her own,she lost concentration half way and ended up in a pile at the bottom,,up she got,,righted herself, flew up to the top again and then came down, one by one. She has a few hills to climb but it will be worth it.
                                                          Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 14, 2016, 12:32:39 PM
Hi GG,
      The Raven is a Very special Bird. Lorenz studied them intently and wrote extensively about them,
 I think his language explanations are "in Solomon,s Ring". He studied raven families at his father,s castle and even had his own raven.
 So it will be worth while to dig out his books and have a read.
                                Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on May 14, 2016, 08:54:17 PM
Well ahead  of you biff! Read King Solomon's Ring, plus both of Bernd Heinrich's modern books on the raven. They are astounding creatures. Our  smartest native animal by far


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 15, 2016, 09:41:32 AM
Hi GB,
     "Upon Aggression" is a good read as well and "Man Meets Dog" is a must.
  He was writing long before the DNA code was cracked and his conclusions on the origin of our canine friends was made to look foolish. Still he got the lingo near perfrect.
 The Russians kept him in Bed and breakfast for four years and his writing during that time were some of his best.
  "I have found the missing link between the higher ape and civilised man, " ,, " It is we".
  He was/is a giant.
                   Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on May 15, 2016, 01:46:58 PM
Yes I've been meaning to grab those too :)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 15, 2016, 05:33:01 PM
Hi GB,
     There is a chap called Peter Neville and he has written books with individual casebook histories of dogs with all kinds of problems.
 He has also written about "Bandit" his rescue Neapolitan Mastiff and the battle of the fridge and the sheep. He has good sound reasoning powers.
 I think he is now called Professor P Neville. He was/is a highly qualified Practicing Vet. He writes good stuff and has an excellent sense of humor.
                                                    Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on May 15, 2016, 06:41:31 PM

Wow ! it was a clear response from that animal.

Hiya GM. I'm usually quite skeptical about 'stuff' like this, but I have to say there is something very powerful about the way animals interact with us and the looks they give. I've learnt how different every dog and cat is, their individual personalities, and the incredible amount of information they give out. I can only assume I've learnt over time to read their micro gestures etc, maybe without even realising. BTW I don't mean I can read any cat or dog, I mean the ones I spend years with and slow grow to know, but probably never fully understand.

No idea what is really happening but its still fascinating and incredibly rewarding, regardless.

Off now to feed my neighbours house cat, and put food out for their visiting fox and hedgehogs (whilst they are on holiday) (the neighbours, not the hedgehogs). Hopefully their feral cat Chunk will be in the greenhouse, ready for a free meal too, and with a bit of luck he won't run too far, and will exchange a few blinks with me.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 16, 2016, 12:54:54 PM
Dear Mam,
       The weather is very good up here, There is no rain or cold wind like you get down in Galway, so that is a big +. I am still wondering when I will be going home. I am not in a hurry but I don,t want to get too attached to these folks because I am not staying you see, I would not be fair. He is a bit of an idiot but she is rather nice. Her birthday is coming up shortly and I think he has some nice gift for her and I am supposed to help him present it.
 We spend a lot of time in the garden. Diese is very nice. he is far too big and slow and when I collide with him, it is like running into a brick wall, so now I leap over him until I am told to stop.
 We had a visitor on Friday, A man with a shepard,s staff. He was very angry and I heard my mistress say later,that she thought he was going to hit my boss with his staff. I heard most of it.
 It transpired, that the man had the 20 acres of bogland to the immediate north of us, let for many years and he keeps sheep there. His sheep had been savaged on Friday evening and he had found a lamb, still alive stuck in the fence just some 40ft from the corner of our boundry. So he naturally thought that perhaps Diese or me might have been involved. He was very upset and it took a little time for my boss to calm him down, They formed a plan, He would not go around the neighbours asking about dogs, Instead he would find a central spot to hide in the area which would give him a good view. My boss recommended one spot in particular,, no aftershave or smoking,
 Saturday dragged by, then on Sunday evening the call came in. The man had actually caught the dog (just one dog) pulling his lamb apart. The dog was a GSD and attacked the man himself.
 The man, followed the dog home, onto it,s street and into it,s house. They were all family friends. My boss knows everybody and is friends with them all. It is a sad sad day he says but the only answers is the lead in the ear.
 Apart from that, it is pretty boring. My name is now Sheba or Sheb,,which is confusing to say the least,,my new mistress likes the name and says it suits me because there is something rather Regal about me. I did not pick that up in the pound.
 My boss made a mistake in naming me after a lady called Shep who belonged to a kid called Nash almost 60 years ago, She had litters of pups every whack about and my boss and Nash used to go round the men at the fair selling the black and white ones as sheep dogs, out of a cardboard box, for a half a crown. It was easy money, some of the daddies were greyhounds but Nash got rid of anything that was not black and white..Even at that age they were counterfeiters and thieves. They loved the half crowns. Men came looking for them a year afterwards but only looking for more pups because Sheepdog Shep,s pups might have had the longest legs of a sheepdog in Ireland but they also had the smartest heads and somewhere in the hills of Urris, Shep,s long legged bloodlines still speed over the hills after sheep. Nash can still walk about 20 ft. He does not even keep a sheepdog any more, he lets his farm to townies and smirks. My boss says he finally settled down.
 I have no other news Mam, They are trying to train me to pee and poo on command. Absolutely hilarious Mam. I will make them work for it of course,especially for the treats.
  He says that my tatty coat needs to grow out a little more before he tackles it properly but before the 19th..  H,mmmmm. Maybe they are planning a BBQ and plan to put me on a spit,
  Am Joking Mam,,so don,t come rushing up here.
  Lots of love Mam..Give all the brood big hugs from me.
                      Your loving daughter,
                         Sheba,,( Sheb,, Shep, Shel, anything but Sue.)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: knighty on May 16, 2016, 02:03:30 PM
Biff, any idea on the names of those books ?

searching Peter Neville on amazon brings up 13 pages of results!
(I'm assuming it's a different Peter Neville that wrote so much about Hitler.....)

guessing one of these ? (or both?)

EMRAA Intelligence: The revolutionary new approach to treating behavior problems in dogs (https://www.amazon.co.uk/EMRAA-Intelligence-revolutionary-approach-treating/dp/0857880160/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463401715&sr=8-1&keywords=Peter+Neville)

Dog Behaviour Explained (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dog-Behaviour-Explained-Peter-Neville/dp/1858131790/ref=sr_1_15?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1463401727&sr=1-15)


my parents have a dog right now who has us all a bit stumped, he's a rescue black long haired german shepherd (parents have always had german shepherds), he's been re-homed twice before and he's not even 2 yet

assuming it's the usual thing of people getting a cute pup and not realising how big it will get or how much energy they have / how much exercise they need

has some (expected) separation anxiety, if he's left alone in the house (without people, he's always with our other GSD), he's chewed up the TV remove and a couple of books.

He gets good long walks every night - parents take them both out late at night so they can run free uninterrupted, which do help keep him calm while he's settling in

(they've had him about 6 months now)


but... there's a couple of time's he's had a go at strangers for no reason, once when walking along the beach he ran off a good 400 yards to bark at a couple of guys standing talking, aggressive barking not the normal just making noise stuff

and a couple of days ago while my dad was getting shopping out of the car boot he ran up behind some guy walking past, hackles up and growled at him (the guy was already past my father and walking away when the dog came out)


chewing up books etc.. is bad and needs to be worked on, but being aggressive is in a different league, he;s a big dog so can't be allowed to get away with that kind of thing


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 16, 2016, 08:20:56 PM
Hello Knighty,
         I think it is the second book to listed,,,"Dog Behaviour explained"
    I thought he was pretty good but I guess there are others who think otherwise. He did give genuine case histories and I did glean a few tips from it but it has been a long time since I first read it. There is no one single dog "expert" who has all the correct answers. I regard Cesar Milan as a good example. He calms down breeds that would otherwise have to be destroyed, yet some folks don,t have a good word to say about him because he was supposed to use violent tactics in some cases. The dogs in question got to keep their lives intact. So I am not sure what to say about the chap but he is brilliant at pinpointing the dog,s problem and that is all important if you want to cure it.
    Destroying the remote control is an anxiety problem and fear of being abandoned once again but the aggression could be,("COULD BE") in the clothes that these people wear or the smell of their after shave. He could have had a likewise dressed owner that liked to thrash the life out of him now and then, so Your Dad needs to try and remember what kind of clobber these folks were wearing.
 I once had a shepard that was involved in a car accident in Galway late one night. He recovered but became quite dangerous around anyone dressed in dark clothes like police or clergy.
 There was nothing I could do back then, He had already put the wind up a few of these people and I was advised to have him destroyed because he had an additional problem with dead nerves in his spine and legs and was in constant pain. I think I may have even turned him into an alcoholic back then, I had fed him vodka to kill the pain. It was a desperate move in a desperate situation. He was absolutely 100% fine with me but at night time, he was just too dangerous.
  You can tell your Dad to invest in a good quality muzzle and put it on him in public until you souse out the reason for the bad attitude to these people. If it is the type of dress, then that is easy enough to sort but you need to use the muzzle and eliminate the risk to the public. I wish I could help you more but you will breathe easier when you get him used to the muzzle.
                                                       Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: knighty on May 16, 2016, 10:48:33 PM
dress/smell is a good point, when they got him the were told "he hates men" but we saw on signs of that at all

for the first week or so he'd bark at anyone coming into the house but he soon relaxed a bit

it's a shame because he's so gentle the rst of the time, if you give him a treat you'd think he had no teeth at all the way he gently picks it up.

all our other dogs have always been gentle and laid back, but the rescues have taken a while to settle in and become that way


I'll order those two books, I'm pretty interested in this kind of stuff anyway so even if they don't help with him they'll be a good read


my parents have just got in to see a new dog trainer, two weeks ago they were 7th on the waiting list, but the guy (ex cop) is a bit blunt and won't put up with people not doing things right so people quit pretty regularly... he has strict rules too, if you miss one class without phoning him first to explain why he'll ban you from ever seeing him again....

I've never met the guy but he's still well known/respected enough that he has a waiting list so must be pretty good


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 18, 2016, 08:13:35 AM
The days creep by,
                Yesterday,was rain and drizzle our new addition to the pack is pulling very well and we are on target for tomorrow.
  Her coat is still tatty,despite the work I put into it but coats take time to come right. As to date,there has been no manifestation
 of serious vice. The things like jumping up on the seats or begging at the table have gently fallen away from her. She has learned to trust
 Diese and they can share the same space in comfort. Diese is the key to it all, There would be no easy way through if it were not for his full co-operation
 and he gives willingly. Last night was cause for celebration,our little wolf had done her toilet as planned and spent the first night in the house as reward.
 It is all very much to take in and she is a bit overcome with it all. Time will chase away the anxiety pangs and the bad memories will recede into the distant
 past. She has a joyous open nature that instantly connects and makes you want to do the best for her but we take it all slow. I follow Diese,s glance. He is not a grass
 but he wants things done right without being a bully and she would not be what she is, if she would not try and take advantage, which is turning out to be
 a lot more difficult than she first thought. He has learned that he cannot rough it like he could with Old Nat and she has leaned that he demands respect.
 Somehow they have met in the middle and are getting along fine.
 My 6am rising will not be needed from now on, She will take up position beside the tall porch window that looks up our drive. It was Old Nats spot for years.
 When she is strong enough we will visit the Vet and hopefully get a clean bill of health, boosters and Drontal. Then Home.
                                                        Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: MR GUS on May 18, 2016, 11:10:37 AM
Our own "New girl" since 28th (ish) sept 2015 is in peak season right now & tbh I think it's actually acting as a settler for her.

It's her 1st with us, (mop out) & whilst it isn't phasing her, it seems to have settled her mind as to "home".
In fact when I briefly had to bawl her out & get in the middle of a snarling toothfest of boxers going for it last night ( possession over a sweet potato chip) she came up onto the bed & seemed to "apologise" for her action.

We think that the bigger dog (a big mastiff) she lived with before had really pushed her out of her bowl & was skinny when she arrived that she still has a few problems with not sharing when 3 other dogs inquire as to what she has between her paws. (other than that they all eat together at raised feeders).

A bottle of vodka biff!?  whistle ...exactly what we are having to do to help keep our young male on an even keel (senility @5 years), tried a new drug which emulates a a calming enzyme from mothers milk but uncertain as to how it worked in this case, he is pretty far down the road!
In the meantime double dose of steroids every day, + a ranitadine (stomach coating).

Folk really ought train a dog to sausage / cold cut treats in order to make pills (whether medicinal or otherwise)  easier to get down throats,our boy is very keen to have his pills treats.

Our Oldest person has had old age hit her hard now & sleeps alot but very sprightly at all other times, a solid red person now very grey & red, cancer we think, but currently no pain, ..so she can tick over for a while longer.
 Something noticeable which makes us think cancer (she also has benign lumps elsewhere) is the swollen eye, (as if tails aren't painful enough). ..again a bit of alcohol or a pain killer ( basic pharmacy, not re-named vet schmutter).



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 19, 2016, 09:11:35 AM
All is going well on our front,
                 Our new gal, is thriving and the birthday gal is delighted. She already knew for a few days and was out in the good weather walking with little wolf.
 Sheba (my wife loves the name)   ( Nash will have to wait ) is going from strength to strength, I am holding back on the drontal to the weekend. I see nothing that would make me
 believe that she needs it immediately but parasites can hide deep.
 It will take a month or so to bring her back to correct weight and by that time she will be well established and biddable.
 Diese is tres cool, He accidentally drops a toy near her and walks on. Her early playing hard to get has made him super cool but they get along really well.
 all is good.,
              Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: gravyminer on May 19, 2016, 12:07:49 PM
Good name Biff

our first shepherd rescue came with the name Sheba.
She was the smartest dog Ive ever shared a home with.
Just seemed to know what to do, obviously able to read her stoopid humans better than they could read her.

Only times I saw her get it wrong, once to learn about electric fences and once when she went to walk across a collection of debris that had built up in the corner of a still, deep pool on a busy dartmoor river .......


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: talisman on May 19, 2016, 04:24:34 PM
You have all reminded me of my old girl ... Sheama.
Rescue case with unknown age, we all thought she was 6 or 7 but she arrived just when my 2 boys and self were going through a rough time with my ex.
My sons at the time were only 9 and 11 years old and Sheama knew all my their secrets as they used to snuggle up in her rough and give her lots of cuddles and love.
Although she used to tower over the children at the local primary school, she really was one of the biggest softies, and it was amusing to watch her being idolised by 4 and 5 year olds as they would take it in turns to take her for a small walk in the play ground  and then to brush and comb her
Sorry to say old age caught up with her and her hind legs, quality of life quickly disappeared so now in doggy heaven


(http://s32.postimg.org/l6ljm00xt/P9100001.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/l6ljm00xt/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 19, 2016, 10:26:16 PM
Beautiful looking lady Talisman,
                         Loads of wisdom there.
(http://s32.postimg.org/yp65guk1t/004.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/yp65guk1t/)  This is Sheba,Our new gal, just in the front door from Galway,
  Her coat is matted and covered in tats. She is also badly dehydrated and very underweight.

(http://s32.postimg.org/dlroiw001/009.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dlroiw001/)  A lot can happen in ten days.
  Her coat still needs a lot of work but her condition inside and outside has improved greatly.
  She takes these little anxiety attacks where she paces around the room if I am gone for 10 minutes. We don,t tell her stop or lie down. It will wear off after we go for a few trips
 in the jeep to the seaside. Diese has improved as well. He is more alert and tuned in. She is good for him.
 She is down to 3 meals a day and will be on two as from Sunday next. The Mackerel did it,s job, She was quite pongy. Getting water into her is not easy and she was taking 24 hours
 between pees which was quite worrying. It is now down to 6 hours between pees.She can eat much bigger meals now and her poos are excellent. It takes a little while to get it all
 together but it is well worth the trouble to get off to a decent start.I believe there is some growing still left in her.It will be interesting to see what she will be like in a few months time.
  Meantime we just do the best we can and hope it goes well.
                                          Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 20, 2016, 01:56:10 PM
(http://s32.postimg.org/62oxx55c1/004.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/62oxx55c1/) In among the toys, I have an audience.
(http://s32.postimg.org/6a30tv9kx/001.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6a30tv9kx/)  Hurry up you  2, I have things to do you know,

   Our sitting room/dining room/mini kitchen is upstairs to the right, with views across the bog to the sea. She is standing below some pics of friends and going up the stairs to the right are
  pics of the wolves in the "Wildwoods" Dakota in particular. Sheba , has her gait, that energy conserving gait that can last for days on end. She is winning.
                                                       Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on May 26, 2016, 09:13:48 PM
Slowly catching up.
Great news Biff delighted for you.

I'm always amazed at the nvc that allows animals to communicate with us.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 27, 2016, 12:58:21 AM
Aye Tod,
     We are happy, Diese is silently satisfied. He has a nice friend with a sense of humor.
  Things are running according to plan and she is learning steadily and coping as much as her body will allow her.
  Her anxiety is obviously still there but she puts her trust in Diese......and us.
  We are not used to her speed and lighting reflexes. It has been a while since Xena lived here but then she is giving us time.
  The head is excellent and taking everything in. Every dog is different and shows it,s intelligence in different ways.
  It is a learning process for us all and we are extremely fortunate that it has been as stress free as it has been.
  We just hope that it continues this way.
                                                     Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: gravyminer on May 27, 2016, 09:47:38 AM

Sorry to say old age caught up with her and her hind legs, quality of life quickly disappeared so now in doggy heaven


Our old Sheba started to show signs of hip displacia at a fairly young age ( about 8 yrs old ) and the vets were useless.
We even took her to some fancy vet hospital near Bristol and all they could suggest was that they hung onto her for a few days to do more tests ......

Someone suggested Royal Jelly ( courtesy of the bees ) and the effect was instant and spectacular.
She was on the stuff for the rest of her life and never showed signs of back end lock up again.

Im wondering if I shouldn't try some  ;)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 27, 2016, 11:25:06 AM
(http://s33.postimg.org/6jsrbluwr/001.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6jsrbluwr/)
The new party member, Sheba, Little wolf. You can see from the pic that she is very underweight, Skin and bone actually. It took the best part of the two weeks to get her gut working properly. She could only take small meals at a time,She is still on 3 meals a day but has been packing it away since Wednesday. Her stools are now normal and she is doing everything as naturally as possible. I try and stop her running and keep her weight gain as steady as possible. Her co-ordination leaves a little to be desired but considering the circumstances and the condition that she arrived here in,we will be lucky if she suffers no long term affects.The picture above was taken on Tuesday evening, Just two weeks after she arrived here
 And you ask yourself,what kind of people would leave a dog in this condition. They were a man and wife team, selling on behalf of a third party,,an apparent martial breakup,,It was a plausible story. But the more I listened to them, The more I realised they knew very little about the dog. "So what do you feed her on" I said.       "Ahhhhh anything and everything and spuds" he replied.
 I knew he was,nt joking. That is very often the diet of the collie dog. , "Excellent" I said. Ignorance is bliss I thought and you do not get very far preaching about the advantages of feeding a dog properly. The sun was beating down and roasting us, Her head was steady, nose moist and eyes clear but she was also breathing very hard and dehydrated..I had to get water into her and get her cooled down.They reduced the price without any haggling but wanted petrol money,,I gave them 10 euros and they were going to argue between them over it..Soooo  You get the picture.?We streaked home with the windows down, past the sleeping Yeats,round Benbulbin, Into Donegal, over the Bluestacks and home, into the restful cool.
  There is a terrible irony in all this. You could spend a fortune and buy the top bloodlines..get the praise and the co-operation of the best vets in the country(and their bills) and you could still have nothing, I mean that absolutely. Yet the chances of Sheba coming right, once she gets past the first 2 months, (8weeks) are excellent. She has already come through the mill and if there was any little weakness in there.It would have killed her by now. She will also, unless I am very much mistaken, be bang on the breed standard by early September. She is a survivor.
 I could write reams about her, I rang Nash to tell him i was naming her after Shep. His mind stepped back instantly over 10 years ontop o half a century,when we were selling pups at the fair.
 He was groggy but tuned in immediately. We talked of Topsey,Spot,Rex and Shep. We took the best dogs in the town with us on our rambles round the countryside. once they joined up with us
 they forsook their own house and hearth. Topsey was a Clumber and years later, I chanced upon his double, A purebreed and bought him out of dire circumstances, washed him once and asked him what he knew. Sold him into a family home (with a money back guarantee) where the man of the house like to go on shoots. He became the darling of 3 small girls but would still go on the shoot and outperform everything around. He gave me a good name.I knew Clumbers were scarse and he was the last one I knew.
  Dogs,  Sorry,,i have gone to the dogs once again................
 
                                                  Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 28, 2016, 07:02:35 PM
 


 After the Baff


(http://s33.postimg.org/f2s6uv2bv/010.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/f2s6uv2bv/)
                                              Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on May 28, 2016, 07:45:53 PM
Love the way she holds her head


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 28, 2016, 09:15:15 PM
(http://s33.postimg.org/4ph8h3jpn/028.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4ph8h3jpn/)
 Out cold in the Land of Nod. Dreaming.
  Only now is her coat coming right and the last of the tats were removed today before her bath. She has been hosed down a few times but today she got the shampoo and the full treatment. In a few hours time she will fluff up like a pom. She is starting to assert herself which is nice. Her shape is changing rapidly. He tummy is able to hold more.
  The long hairs on her flanks and tummy are a miracle in them selves. I have always been amazed by the way these strange creatures can change their bodies in such a short time. A phantom pregnancy is not a welcome event but it is a miracle in itself that the dog shape undergoes the complete change to accommodate the invisible pups with full milk and her body grows the most de lux duvet that descends to the floor and the tail grow the rest to come around and wrap the phantom pups in this very very real warm and comfortable,secure nest. The rib cage opens up, moving up to the front more. Then when the phantom gestation has run its course, It is suddenly all over. She is no longer angry at the male and allows him into her space. The milk disappears and the teats retreat back into the body.The proud haughty behaviour is gone to be replaced by a shy guilty one which is easy to break up and dispel. Only when you witness this type of happening in our canine friends are you able to admit and understand the possible corresponding similar behaviours in us humans. We may think we are in charge but nature dictates just as the moon does the tides.
 Sheba is bringing us a lot of contentment. She is work, plain and simple, I have lost a bit of weight, Diese is feeling younger but his poors paws are not up to the pace that Sheba sets. He enjoys ambushing her under the apple trees and she enjoys getting caught. She will get more responsibility and hopefully not get too serious. So far so good.
                                                                         Biff
 
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Nickel2 on May 29, 2016, 09:24:44 AM
Looks like there are some more females on post-image could do with a bit more body mass!  ;D

(http://s33.postimg.org/8uyvus1ln/thin.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8uyvus1ln/)

(Sorry, that was probably sexist, and I shall go to hell  facepalm)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 29, 2016, 01:51:34 PM
Worry not N2,
             If you were to go to hell for that,,then hell would be full long ago.
                                           Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 02, 2016, 08:48:07 AM
6.30am and the sun is boring through our bedroom window,
                     Wait,!! we have millions of little pets just outside the glass, They are frantic to join us inside. Who could believe that one so small could curtail your enjoyment so abruptly but you will not hang around outside with these little bleeders giving you love bites. They are simply ferocious at the moment.
  We had a bit of wind yesterday evening as the sun began to set, So i boxed clever, got out our supply of distilled and began topping up the Battery bank..Wow, it seemed liuke a good idea at the time, I had about 30 cells done with another 30 to go and a big cloud of the buxxers came out of nowhere as the wind died. I could not stop and had to keep going to the bitter end. They got up the legs of my trousers and really went to town on me. i think I am short a testicle, It took ages with a towel in the bathroom to finally settle in the one spot.
 There are a great lot of bees about this year and even a few bumble bees. The place is like the rain forest without the rain,,green, Heavy green.   but by gum,,lurking in that greenery are the worst little creatures on god,s planet.. Mrs Biff has new Midge roll on that seems to work for her, so today,,i will give our new resident pets a treat.
 Meanwhile, Sheba and her boyfriend Diese enjoy life to the full. She has settled down well and not quite as anxious as she was. Still on 3 meals a day (low protein). She is 3 weeks here yesterday. It is lovely to see her expand and come out of her shell. She has this great humor that Diese loves. Oh,! she is cute and crafty but so is Diese and it is nice to see them go to sleep, head to head. Enjoy it while you can, Diese my friend. She will be an exceptional female Shepard of she did not try and reconfigure the pecking order but you never know, She could be gracious,respectful and protective to you,,like old Nat was to 4 legged Biff in his old age. That would be nice.
                                                                     Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on June 02, 2016, 09:38:34 AM
my latest Navi-pet  :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHiIEXBH2Fk


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 03, 2016, 10:40:06 AM
We have trillions of little Navipets,
                           Nano vampires each and every one. It is really serious outside this morning. I never saw as many starving little critters.
  I feel weak from the loss of blood but at least, I can say, I am losing weight, :-X ::)
                                                                         Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: dhaslam on June 03, 2016, 10:46:28 AM
This duck arrives for a swim in the pond beside the house most mornings, sometimes with his partner.   They ignore the wildlife pond at the other end of the garden that includes a  floating nesting box.   


(http://s33.postimg.org/m0obqdjvf/Duck10.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/m0obqdjvf/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: djs63 on June 03, 2016, 11:54:09 AM
Do Biff's "millions of little critters" bother furry pets? Do any of the lotions and potions keep them away from humans?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 03, 2016, 11:19:40 PM
Yes djs,
     They do bother the hounds if there are large angry numbers.I spray their heads with "So Soft"  (avon) and then wipe them down with a tissue when we come inside.
                                                                                       Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 05, 2016, 01:55:46 PM
(http://s33.postimg.org/rq38o51kr/012.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/rq38o51kr/)  Cor,! Its hot,,

(http://s33.postimg.org/9cyij7inv/019.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9cyij7inv/)    Oooppp,s Sorry darling,,

(http://s33.postimg.org/nfphvaud7/011.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/nfphvaud7/)   Ah, This is better. It is no fun getting stepped on , or running into a 70kg+ x 42" chest. I am a lady after all and should be treated as such. Things were different in my last place. I could jump on things and flatten the opposition but playing tig with this guy is like being chased by a large mobile brick poohouse, sooner or later he falls on top of me and it don,t half hurt,,. Sure he says sorry and give me a lick and a nudge and a wink.
  I have a secret weapon but it will have to wait for a few months and then he will be very sweet and kind..H,Mmmmmm
                                                                          Biff
 Nb, Chest filling out,flanks rounding off,,muscles building slowly in the legs, Low protein diet with the odd splurge of chickie..mackerel ,salmon.,liver
     More work required on the coat. Very difficult to keep her from running and making her put on weight. Nice happy disposition and a pleasure to work with,
    Full of mischief and surprisingly strong willed. Little short training sessions that hardly dent her mindset, At the moment her attitude is,
    "Yer aving a laugh mate,,yer are,  arnnt,yeh,,"  " But Ok,,I,ll tolerate it."
    (All is good.)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on June 06, 2016, 12:13:40 PM
Dale at 11 weeks

https://youtu.be/pD86NrYSKa4 (https://youtu.be/pD86NrYSKa4)

The aviary i built for him:

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/GreenBeast999/General/Animals/20160523_164226_zpsmuuyt8vr.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on June 06, 2016, 12:26:02 PM
oh sweet ... , how did you find that Raven ?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on June 06, 2016, 12:40:00 PM
I know a breeder, put my name down for one after seeing last year's clutch. Collected him in April.

He's great fun, hard work like a puppy sometimes, but rewarding


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 08, 2016, 09:05:17 AM
Great pics GG,
              I hope all goes well. Ravens are very intelligent and one of the few animals that can use human speech in it,s proper context.
   This was one of Lorenz,s observations that baffled him. Apparently his raven would fly on ahead of him on his walks, calling to him every so often.
   I would be afraid,he might get bored. It might be a good idea to get a mate for him, so that you can alternate their free range flights and have a
   genuine reason for them to return to you until they bond with you properly. If you were there when he exited the shell then you do not have that problem.
   I lived next to a family of Ravens that returned to the same nest year after year. I raised ducks right under their noses and they never touched a
   single duckling. When disaster did strike, it was Mr fox who did the dirty deed.
   I used to watch their courtship displays , the way they dropped like stones one time and then the next they would be cartwheeling to the ground,pulling back at the last moment.
   They would drop sticks in midair and the other would catch it or fly upside down with their feet sticking straight up. They had competition from various hawks and when the hawk
   would try and dive on them, they just turned upside down in midair and waited,talons outstretched.
   They were very laid back and easy going. They lived almost at the top of a steep cliff which was made of a soft shale and pretty impossible to climb, They caught the thermals from the sea
   and could stay aloft over our place for hours on end. They were supposed to take ducklings and young rabbits and all sorts but to be truthful I never got close enough to find out.
                                                                                              Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on June 08, 2016, 10:03:19 AM
It seems to be pretty typical to get them at 3 weeks in this country, hoping he will bond to me sufficiently. I will avoid getting him a mate unless i really can't give him enough time. It's early days.
I've started training him, the obvious commands like come, wait, perch and target.

Lucky you to have seen that behaviour, there are some local to us but i rarely get a glimpse


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: dickster on June 10, 2016, 11:54:39 AM
Always fancied a raven, free flying but tame. Took a very poorly kestrel (dead next day) to the local bird man and there was a 10 week old raven sitting on a cardboard box. Fantastic creature. Had a go at feeding etc whilst kestrel was being examined. Did I want him said the man? The wife didn't look happy. After 30 mins, Master raven had sh*t one and a half bucket loads of poo. The wife bundled me back in the car never to return.

Was given a jackdaw chick a few days ago, looking like a survivor, a lot less poo.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on June 10, 2016, 08:18:53 PM
Always fancied a raven, free flying but tame. Took a very poorly kestrel (dead next day) to the local bird man and there was a 10 week old raven sitting on a cardboard box. Fantastic creature. Had a go at feeding etc whilst kestrel was being examined. Did I want him said the man? The wife didn't look happy. After 30 mins, Master raven had sh*t one and a half bucket loads of poo. The wife bundled me back in the car never to return.

Was given a jackdaw chick a few days ago, looking like a survivor, a lot less poo.

ha ha yeah they do make some mess! He's outdoor permanently now in the aviary, so i've cleaned up the office where he was spending his time with me.
I have bought him a 'flightsuit' that can contain a few hours worth of mess so i can have him indoor or take him places when he's properly bonded to me and out of the aviary

a few weeks in when he was starting to become mobile i was thinking perhaps a jackdaw might have been a better bet, but i wouldn't change him for the world


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 10, 2016, 09:04:11 PM
Well they are going to poo a lot when they are growing, but I would expect they poo a lot less as adults
                                           After they wake up,they will need to relieve themselves and that is when you aim for some perch outside and praise them for pooing in that spot.
  I wonder would that work,? You cannot expect to be able to train them at this early stage because of their food intake and because they are growing so fast, I guess all that
  you can do is to create a situation where the Bird has to poo in a certain  spot and get rewarded for it,,So that means measuring his exact food intake, his exercises and the
  time it take for him to process the grub, so that you can have a good idea when to expect him to do his toilet and take the necessary precautions to make it as painfree as possible.
 Timing and routine pay big dividends in the canine world. Even awkward dogs can get fooled into thinking that they are winning and have their confidence boosted by the method above.
 Then they start getting it together themselves.s
  Ravens are renowned for being clever, so I guess they could learn quickly if you could get the message across.There was a time in my life that I would have loved the challenge but those
  days are long gone. We are content now with Diese and Sheba and a load of feral kittens outside somewhere. whistle. We have mink and the magpies are back..
  I almost forgot our pet midges,,If any of you would like a few million, I will pass them on to you totally free of charge. Nothing will make you as active and put a spring in your step, like our
  midges and remember,,totally free of charge,, Im a sucker, I am,,giving everything away like this,  :'(
                                                                               Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on June 11, 2016, 07:17:18 AM
Mrs T away in the UK  for a wedding. So all alone with the mutts and cat.
They are taking full advantage of her  absence
The cat has taken over her side of the bed.
It gets light extremely early here by 5am it is full daylight.
The dogs of course are awake and thinking of a walk closely followed by their tuck.
You can hear the tap tap of claws on the wooden floor. They wait by the bedroom door until they sense signs of life and in they come .
You dare not speak as this is interpreted  as hello dogs.

Mrs T away so why wait! They take it in turns to stick a cold wet nose in your face. Resistance is futile.

So the day gets to start a bit early!





Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 11, 2016, 10:49:16 AM
Hi Tod,
    They seem to have settled in very well.
   I would worry about the moose (Elk) in the forest. They are solitary creatures but they will attack and kill dogs
   or anyone along with them. They can run at 30mph and keep it up for ages.
   They are a mushers nightmare or any dog owners nightmare, they just do not like dogs.
    I think Sweden has more of them per sq km than any other country.
                                                                 Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on June 11, 2016, 08:32:33 PM
A bit of a laugh Biff there are signs on the road beware of elk between 1km and 3.5 km I wonder if anyone has told the elk!

There are a lot of wild pigs hereabout as well.

Elliott is kept on his lead.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on June 11, 2016, 09:24:34 PM
Yes they are house-trainable and the perfect opportunity would have been when he was indoors and it was predictable (he would go immediately after his first/second swallow of food)
I'm just not bothered enough for that now he's outside.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 15, 2016, 01:05:48 AM
Our new party member,
               Four weeks and settling down.
   She can be quite physical which is surprising but I like that because she can ask for something by nudging or pushing.
 It is a steady journey and we have come a long way. Diese is charmed and she is doing him a power of good.
 They compete good natured,  her speed against his raw strength and nimble footwork.
 She gave up trying to bodycheck him some time ago ;D.They go well together and everyone is pretty pleased. :genuflect
                                               Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: billi on June 15, 2016, 11:36:02 AM
 our  sweet in dreams Luna  cat  , cool  sleeping position ... wackoold



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 20, 2016, 02:14:37 PM
 The weeks go by and Sheba,
                             Goes from strength to strength. She makes the odd mistake, we all make mistakes but it is up again and onwards.
 She is now on two good meals a day, roughly the same as Diese.She has a bit of a tummy showing,,very faint but a massive difference to the Greyhound coupling
 that she arrived here with. She is casting hairs at an unbelievable rate but that is normal. She just has to be groomed every day until her internal control systems
 level out. There has been so much that has happened to her over the past year that the reversing procedure will not happen overnight. It takes time.
 Meanwhile,,she absorbs as much info as she can. She is good for Diese and puts a spring in his step but apart from that, she is quite a character and has a great sense of humor.
 She is settling in nicely and should come into heat around September or before. there is absolutely no question of breeding but getting a heat over is very important for her head
 and general well being. There is no panic or rush in that respect. I get more time to train her before nature lays down the law. We never know what these adventure throw up.
 Like I have said many times, you could have the very best of everything and it could all blow up in your face at great expense and heartbreak. So we accept what we can and be thankful.
 All is good,
            Biff
 
 
 
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on July 05, 2016, 12:52:03 PM
   We watched "The Call of The Wild" once again, yesterday, Diese is a big fan of Buck,s.
                           Little Sheb, is getting used to the telly and now she gives out when the wolves attack the dogs.
(https://s31.postimg.org/5arpex7yv/008.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5arpex7yv/)
  There are as many differences in Dog,s courtships than there are in Human courtships, We do not really understand why one dog could be a violent rapist and his son a tender lover who showers patience and gifts on his true love. But that us how it is. Aggression and the ability to violently subdue other dogs does not mean that the dog in question will take advantage. In fact, the opposite is mostly the case. Perhaps it is because they have got rid of the opposition that they can relax. But I have known a stud dog that was downright dangerous to be near when mating and the female dog in question had no say in the matter. (The same dog was later sent to a rescue centre for that particular breed). He would have been an excellent case study but with each mating he became more dangerous and unpredictable. I was given the opportunity to take him for free. I thanked and declined. The more I looked at him the less I liked him and yet his pups were winners in every field. (never show dogs back then)He was an absolute charmer but nobody could tell him what to do and he was so powerfull and strong that when he made it clear that someone was annoying him, it was time to give him space. Back then, He was also very expensive and rare. The present breed is a more relaxed one and they have been turning up in Crufts for the past 10years,

(https://s31.postimg.org/5ihljjvfb/005.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5ihljjvfb/)
 It is nice to see her relaxing. She is also trying really hard to fit in. There is not a lot positive that I can say about the previous owners but then again, If they were any good,she would never have arrived here. She will soon be here 2 months and by September,she will be a different lady. There will be no pups in the foreseeable future, It is simply not an option, I doubt that she would be able to carry them the full term,such was her condition when she arrived here, However,come September and things will be different. Meanwhile, it,s salmon oil, sunflower oil,,liver and regular routine, Time is the greatest healer.
 I often think of old Nat. Never was a dog that got abused and mistreated as her, She was 3 months in a rescue centre before she came here on the end of a 10ft heavy chain with instructiion not to take the chain off her. It was years before I realised that she was a product of a puppy farm and had missed any kind of socialising in her early months. This meant that she was unable to communicate properly, She was all over you or else she was running away from you, A feast or a famine of affection. She overreacted to praise,,praise got her into trouble,,praise was bad news, praise was treachery incarnate. She also had problems with spaces , narrow confines and choosing a route,,always the most difficult one.
  You could not possible dwell on her steady,,she needed space and as much exercise that totally exhausted her and then let her sleep to wake to a decent meal and quietness. it is not that easy, no way, she would test you to the end and want to be your victim, I could see where the previous owners fell foul and entered the cycle of punishment and satisfaction but never progress.
  But she fell in love with Mrs Biff who never asked anything off her but gave her comfort and peace. That was the starting point. The rest began to fall into place bit by bit. Even after a good 12 months,she was still seeing the world on her own terms but by now she formed an attachment to the place and would have to be watched when unwelcome visitors came into the yard,
 Nat always moved silently to cut off the retreat to come in from behind. That took ages to soften up but we did not get many people wandering about the yard. Bit by bit she softened up and learned to enjoy life. She adored 4 legged Biff and humbled Xena in front of him in the nicest possible manner. She had perfect record for being clean and non destructive in the house which was surprising, She raised Diese as her own but put him in his place when she had to. It took her ages to realise I was deaf and when my hearing aid battery was failing and my voice raising to compensate,,she would stand four square to me in front of Mrs Biff,,give me that look that said,,  "Hey you,, what is your problem"?  I loved her for that..That charmed the hell out of me, It really did. We had great years together and the last few years of her life she allowed me to walk down the stairs beside her.In the end I had to help her up and down. She got a great run. I still have to plant that rose bush on her grave beside 4 legged Biff. Little Sheb has a hard act to follow but it is all there to play for.
                                                                                 Biff



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on July 05, 2016, 02:08:14 PM
That's a lovely post and photographs Biff.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on July 05, 2016, 06:15:49 PM
Can only agree Stan, smashing post and pictures Biff.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on July 05, 2016, 08:08:30 PM
 After the dinner,
               Exchanging files via mental bluetooth,
  I honestly believe that they can do that, in fact I am convinced, Old Nat and Diese could certainly pass info to one another with out a sound,

(https://s31.postimg.org/vxgmal3pz/032.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vxgmal3pz/)
                                Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on July 24, 2016, 12:47:57 PM
A little sad news this weekend we lost Confort one of our collies at 11 years old.

Playing happily on Thursday evening. As well as being a great thief (she one nicked and ate a whole baking tray of jacket potatoes)  she was the world's skinniest dog.

Friday morning on her normal walk Mrs T said 'Blimey she is getting a tummy on her'. Friday afternoon she continued to expand, so straight down the vets.
 
No idea that there was anything serious. An x-ray revealed the worse she was full of liquid, and cancer. No chance of an operation.  She gave the prognosis as a week at best of great discomfort for the dog.

So the decision was made for us.

Her mum died at the same age of the same thing.

It is strange not to be woken with a brown nose in your face at 5am 'Surely it must be time for a walk stupid to just lie and sleep!'

We look back at the fabulous times we had with her, she will be greatly missed.

She has been buried in our back garden we have made a trellis over her soon to be planted up.





Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on July 24, 2016, 03:17:48 PM
Sorry for your loss Tod,
                  It is quite upsetting to lose a canine friend like that. you miss them for ages.
   Our new addition is locked up and confined to barracks. She was planning to elope with Diese and he squealed on her.
  It is not all bad, She gets out to play on her own on the end of a lead (mostly) until the fever leaves her or her tail stops making that ? shape.
  They had a fantastic courtship but then the time came and they fell in lust. He howls in a deep baritone like blowing across the top of a bottle,
  She squeals back like some one is trying to kill her from over 50 ft away. It is funny and then it is not so funny,
  We knew this was going to happen and I made all the preparations, Internal cage totally secure, then outside chained run and of course inside where she normally resides.
  Friday last was the first real use of the cage, like today,she is wracked with waves of passion and beyond reason, so she has to be listened to and comforted but still left on her own
 to try and sleep or rest and wait it out, luckily she will be out of danger by Tuesday and then returning to normal over the week, It is tough for both of them but I put a high value
 on the courtship.In a few months time when she is strong enough I will have her spayed and by then she will be pretty well trained up.
 They do remember the kind words and the patience because "they are worth it"
 I plant roses on the graves, It is a bit strange really, Old 4 legged Biff got a red rose and Xena got a white one befitting of Xena, Xena  is on her third rose plant,they don,t do well with Xena,
 However Biff rose always blooms like it is on show and last right through till the depth of winter, Old Nats is only getting going but I guess it will probably lean a few feet to the left over Biff grave, Xena did have this kind of dark, dour humor, with little time for pleasantries. Nat when, her star rose, was all embracing,friendly,kindly generous and still the ultimate business lady.
 Her rose is bound to do well. We do miss them.
 
                                            Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on July 24, 2016, 03:44:06 PM
All the very best to you and yours Tod.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on July 24, 2016, 03:58:14 PM
So sorry to hear that Tod.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Nickel2 on July 24, 2016, 10:56:11 PM
My condolences Tod.
When one of my best friends 'Nogs' (Blue Merle) left us to scamper around another field at a good age, it was a sad day. We still have pics of him doing what he loved best, being himself.
N2.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Philip R on July 25, 2016, 01:49:17 AM
Hello Tod,

I am sorry to here about the loss of your four legged friend.

I recall the loss of my wifes Collie Cross dog, Moss, about 20 years ago after developing prostate cancer, and our 9&1/2 year old black dwarf rabbit, Toby. Both were characters. Yes. the bunny too. (from having him as a rescue pet, I now understand how the Bugs Bunny character was devised .) Have photos of the pair of them in the garden. We did not have another dog for another 11 years. A dogs trust Whippet Collie something  with a great pair of ears and a character so sweet and good natured.     

Kind Regards,
Philip R





Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on July 25, 2016, 08:24:43 AM
Little Fifi

(https://s31.postimg.org/q2qsljrxj/IMG_1923.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/q2qsljrxj/)

is now 1yr old today, and not so little

(https://s32.postimg.org/c5imz5wvl/IMG_2300.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/c5imz5wvl/)

She's with us till late September (at least) before heading off for big school for guide dog training and her new life. We've started counting days!

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on July 25, 2016, 03:51:24 PM
Thanks for the kind words chaps much appreciated.

Mart such good pictures, will you be doing it again?  I would find it terribly hard to say goodbye even though it is preplanned.

Hats off to you and Mrs Mart. ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on July 25, 2016, 04:56:42 PM
Thanks for the kind words chaps much appreciated.

Mart such good pictures, will you be doing it again?  I would find it terribly hard to say goodbye even though it is preplanned.

Hats off to you and Mrs Mart. ;D

Well, the plan ....... it all gets a bit messy.

Apparently we've done well, so our supervisor wants us to have another. However, we'd like our own 'forever' dog first, and Wifey has started to understand what I mean by 'a good mate' now that Fifi is getting older. Nothing wrong with pups, but a faithful friend is the real reward.

So we are going to hang on till the spring, just in case Fi fails, as we'd get first refusal. But she's been accessed and they are very happy with her, so even if she doesn't make it as a guide dog she's almost certain to pass as a support dog, companion dog etc. She comes from a good line, her dad has fathered nearly 400 pups, with 130 making it as guide dogs, and only 70 being withdrawn.

Assuming Fi doesn't come back we'll then get our own pup, but have to wait a year before we can have a guide puppy (to avoid cross training problems, and general chaos). Or we may try for a withdrawn dog, but that'll simply be down to chance.

I think we'll do it again, but have to see just how bad it is when the 'puppy snatchers' come for Fi. Believe it or not, we spent 10 years pondering doing this as we reckoned we were just too soft. Our trick has been to think of Fi as someone else's that we are just looking after for a year. We love her to bits, but are always aware that she's not ours and will be going.

Other puppy walkers have told us it's very upsetting but not a tenth as bad as losing your own dog, for whatever reason, so I think we'll be ok, but check back on me in October (or so?) when the eyes are sore, and the cheeks are wet ...... I may have a different opinion.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on July 25, 2016, 05:06:13 PM
And just to add, Wifey has just shown me some facebook chats from other puppy walkers with Fi's siblings, so today is also happy birthday to Finn, Flora, Frankie, Fizz and Parker (sponsored dog, so they get to name it).

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on July 25, 2016, 08:55:04 PM
Well done Mart,
  I think I would be really sad to rear such a dog and then have to part with her. I don,t know if I could do that,but imagining the dog,belonging to someone else would certainly help.
           We are in the middle of a passionate romance between Diese and Poor Sheba, It is tricky. I have to move before it gets too physical and lock the dame away. Then He goes off his food, No Tuna, flash cooked mince, lovely jubly or any of his favourite grub could entice him to eat for 48 hours +  however this evening around 6ish, Mrs Biff went down to his feeding station and hand fed him half a bowl, so that is good news at least, meanwhile I also got Sheba to eat a full meal this evening.
   He makes the most human noises. He borrows up under my arm and tries to lift me out of the chair, His eyes tell me he wants to go and have a chat with his true love, I gently calm him down.
 There are no harsh words or laughing, It is a serious matter and hopefully, by Wedensday night we will be out of the woods and by the weekend they will be able to sport and play on our rear lawn once again. You will really get to know your dog in these circumstances. If he will obey you now,then he will always obey regardless. Yet my commands are few if nothing.
 Even Sheba, will wait by the cage till I put the lead on her and go back in under her own steam. She suffers enough without getting bossed about and the patience and care are truly appreciated and not forgotten and in the future when they have a problem,they will never be afraid to tell you or let you know.
 Roll on the weekend,
                          Biff
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on July 26, 2016, 11:24:43 AM
Times are tough,
               Poor Diese is heartbroken, He has been denied the right to propagate his line. He has lost weight.
  He sang baritone all night long, His 42" chest resonated on the wooden floor. I slept through it all but Mrs Biff woke a few times.
  Little Sheba slept 20ft away, seemingly untroubled but burning up inside. She ate a hearty breakfast. He once again refused to eat.
  The good news is,that it will soon be over. Soon they will be able to go back to sporting and playing on the rear lawn.
  She will be wiser and so will he..
  I talk to him, I tell him it is all for the best. He will still have his best friend in a week,s time but if he had mated, he would have had to
  endure a life of severe denial, Her family would take preference over him and she would slap him around should he try and interfere.
  Love is blind. He is fast asleep at my feet as I type, She is safely in her cage some 50ft away, He tail is settling down.
  It has not been too bad, We made the necessary preparations and their were no upsets, (touchwood)
  As a young teen,such happening in our town, were regarded with ridicule and bawdy jokes. Ignorance was bliss.
   I checked back through the old pics we have of Diese and discovered that the little bars were there all along, but not as prominent.
  So,,,so much for my powers of observation, facepalm
                                                            Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: MR GUS on September 01, 2016, 02:00:51 PM
We booked the needle for tomorrow night, plus a night for the remaining pack to grieve before driving down to the pet crem, (wife's wishes, cold earth & all that I think).


He is past the point of good days / bad days, & has been coaxed as a happily demented dog over the past few months when he showed signs of improvement, but now is starting to show anxiety, still wagging his tail but barking at thin air.

I've been nursing him along, i've learnt a lot (second canine dementia case), whilst the wife remains frazzled (he's "her" dog)

(http://mirubyboxers.weebly.com/uploads/7/2/9/6/7296940/7218784_orig.jpg)
As I saw him most often in winter months crying when the dancing flames died down.

(http://mirubyboxers.weebly.com/uploads/7/2/9/6/7296940/545150_orig.jpg)
As a pup, ..they've both grown so much, he's only 5.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on September 01, 2016, 02:34:30 PM
We booked the needle for tomorrow night, plus a night for the remaining pack to grieve before driving down to the pet crem, (wife's wishes, cold earth & all that I think).

Best wishes to you and yours.

Martyn.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on September 01, 2016, 02:56:52 PM
It is a horrible situation Gus,
                     Your,s is the only way. In our Roxi,s case, I dawdled and faffed about hoping for a cure but there was none. I was actually angry with her and i still feel guilty about having her put down.
   I should have done it sooner and saved her a lot of pain and anxiety. I still see her eyes looking up at me after each time she fell over. The puzzlement gradually was gradually replaced by fear and I was her only hope as she staggered toward me to heel.and  I could do nothing to comfort her and help her. She went from a young dream dog that hung in your every word,did everything perfect, to a dog that took fits and became terrified of the night. In the end, her coat began turning grey/white. The needle was a relief. There are some battles you will never win.
                                                                                   Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on September 01, 2016, 03:01:20 PM
Thinking of you Gus.
Truly horrible decision.
Perhaps the last kindness you can do for your much loved dog.
Still doesn't stop you feeling sh*t even though it is the right decision.
Very best wishes to you and the family.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Nickel2 on September 02, 2016, 12:31:10 AM
My condolences go out to you Gus. I've been told on more than one occasion that I am too sensitive, so sadly I no longer keep animals of any type, but make friends of other people's pets. His time on this planet was a good and happy one, much better and longer than his chances with the wrong family.
N2


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on September 02, 2016, 09:18:04 AM
My condolences go out to you Gus. I've been told on more than one occasion that I am too sensitive, so sadly I no longer keep animals of any type, but make friends of other people's pets. His time on this planet was a good and happy one, much better and longer than his chances with the wrong family.
N2

Thought I'd mention this for anyone who would like a part-time dog!

Through our guide dog puppy experience (bad day probably about 2 months away!!!!) we've learn't of guide dog boarding. (https://www.guidedogs.org.uk/supportus/volunteering/what-can-i-do/boarders#.V8kvBpgrKhc)

When the dogs go for training, as a boarder you drop them off in the morning, and pick them up in the evening. This can suit people who work, or can't guarantee being home most of the day, and you get a dog for evening walks and weekends. Depending on what phase of training they are in, it could be 8 to 12 weeks (I think?).

Obviously you'd need to live close to a training centre, or spend too much time driving around, but possibly an idea for pet lovers, who can't commit to a full time dog.

This isn't an advert, I don't know much about it, and I don't think there's a shortage of people (there might be?), but whilst Wifey and I are expecting some upset soon (hopefully not heartbreaking) when Fifi goes, I'd have thought boarding wouldn't be too bad.

The dogs would probably be between 1 and 2 years old, so quite a handful. Labs, retrievers, GSD's, all combinations of these, and even Labradoodles.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on September 02, 2016, 09:43:16 AM
Your,s is a kindly and noble act Mart,
                                I just hope you don,t feel too bad when your young dog heads off to training school.
 Many years ago, I considered breeding dogs as a kind of sideline. I got too close to the prospective parents
 and developed a steely responsibility towards them and any of their would be future offspring. I knew exactly
 the kind of people that would buy the pups and with great regret, I locked even the thought of it away. I did
 sell my hunting dog breed into decent homes. They were highly respected and much sought after but the
 GSDs breeds that I owe so much to only, had a small chance of landing on their feet properly. I found that I
 scored much higher, introducing mature GSDs into family homes or families with owner businesses.(not pubs).
 It is good that you can follow the plan for the guide dog people but I have to warn you, that if you meet the
 right dog,that gets into your head, It will crush you to have to part with him/her.
 It don,t half piddle you off.
                                    Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on September 02, 2016, 09:47:19 AM
I have to warn you, that if you meet the
 right dog,that gets into your head, It will crush you to have to part with him/her.
 It don,t half piddle you off.

I suppose wives are the same Biff!!!
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on September 02, 2016, 11:45:00 AM
   " I suppose wives are the same Biff!!!"
      Honest to God Tod, I am not really sure if that is the case.
    You see, I always sought the company of women who were smarter than I was for the obvious reason that perhaps some of their intelligence might rub off on me,
    But it don,t work like that. I was fine as long as I kept quiet but the moment I began to talk, the game was up. Then , Intelligent women can well look after themselves,
    so you are not left with the feeling of responsibility towards them,,If you see what i mean, ;D
    However,I can build a relationship with a very good dog, the feelgood factor is massive, yet I soon become aware that this special dog needs me to make sure
   that his/hers life does not go off the rails through my lack of responsibility. This "Convenant" as Lorenz called it, is of course a two way thing and the responsibility becomes
   a privilege, or should do.
   There is a very good book, I cannot remember the name nor the author but i well remember the true story. it involved a Croat soldier returning from the war, who had raised a
   wolf pup. He endangered, not just his health but his life on several occasions ,till eventually the wolf attacked him and crushed his thigh bone leaving him with a permanent injury
   Some folks might think that the guy was clean bonkers, but I could understand that guy being trapped and wondering if this special relationship was all in his mind, was he imagining it,
   or was it for real and he followed the wolf on it,s hunting trip,s shared it,s meals and froze in the snow. I will do a search for the title and hopefully dig it up.
   It did not have a bad ending or a happy ending but because it was a factual account it was a victory of sorts.
                                                                        Biff
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: MR GUS on September 05, 2016, 02:04:42 PM
We had to put it off (long story) due to work issues, ..he's been molliecoddled & fed too many treats (that won't kill him right)!? & after picking daughter up from school we all go to it as a family then bring him back for the girls to understand.

..i've only been getting emotional 10+ times per day, lots of tears & anguish, we should have got a bit more time for him but this fr!gging court case accusation has done us / him in ..as i've stated previously i've been coaxing him along these last few years with the curtains closed round the house (really to keep him calmer) ..he's the wife's baby, ..her decision I have been able to minimise behavioural problems & if it weren't for the damn neighbour & EON w@nkers lies he'd likey have another month or two of pretty good (interspersed with bad day s when he has a flare up for the main condition) ..but the wife won't have it.

I'm feeling like i've cheated him out of a bit more comfortable time, Why the f__k are stupid humans so self important as to feel they can ignore (& endanger) animals / people by their actions!?

yes I'm angry, but through this still not angry enough to wallop someone (like I didn't in the first place).


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on September 08, 2016, 01:39:04 PM
Sorry to announce the demise of my alta ego Todthedog , aged 16.H e had a good knock and  It was his time, he has been a loyal friend  to us both and there is a Tod shaped gap in his armchair. We shall miss him hugely. He had been ailing for the last couple of weeks and we couldn't bear to see him suffer.  We have buried him next to Comfort at the end of our garden.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on September 08, 2016, 02:45:11 PM
There aren't the right words at this time Tod, so many of us know how it feels to lose a loyal friend.  You did right by him, be so thankful that you were there for him when he needed you the most.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on September 08, 2016, 02:48:13 PM
Sorry to hear Tod. Has Elliot reacted to this?
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on September 08, 2016, 02:59:03 PM
That is indeed sad news Tod,
                             I know the feeling only too well. You did the right thing..He did not suffer.
   Take care,
                Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on September 08, 2016, 04:49:27 PM
All the best.

16yrs, that must be a lot of happy memories.

Martyn.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: dickster on September 09, 2016, 11:20:03 AM
Phew! Our 3 collie crosses are still up and running, but George (10yrs) is starting to puff and pant a bit. Judy and I have had a couple of light conversations about end of life, but J has never had kids, so it's all a bit scary.

However, Charlie the Jackdaw (rescued from being pecked to death on track) has been transformed via an unscheduled moult into a fine and dandy specimen. Now becoming a tad demanding (aggressive almost). He's free flying and we're now going to taper his food down in the vague hope that he'll go play with his mates permanently rather than just for a couple of hours after brekky.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on September 09, 2016, 01:17:52 PM
Thank you all for your kind words they are much appreciated.

Stan, Elliott seems fine, still daft.

His latest (job) is patrolling the hedge, waiting patiently at one end and as passersby go up the lane hurtling at full speed up and down the length of the garden to accompany them on their walk. He could easily clear the fence with a single bound but doesn't, he has worn a track in the grass with his effort (bless). Could this be a sheep substitute?

I'm not sure if the sudden promotion to number one dog hasn't gone to his head.  Oh the responsibility!

Dickster a semi tame Jackdaw what fun. I'm sure George will have many happy years ahead of him. Tod and I puffed and panted up many hills  after the age of ten Mrs T said it was a competition as to whom was the best wheezer.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: MR GUS on September 09, 2016, 02:23:01 PM
Condolences Todd, I feel your emptiness.

Having sobbed my eyes out for days, the worst part was feeding the other 3 who would wait, & left his dry biscuit remains present in his bowl for 2 days before we binned them, whereas they'd normally have snaffled them, you know thats got to them when it go's against their nature.

I anticipate you are seeing the same sort of everyday actions that have perceptibly changed just enough to tilt your windmills emotionally speaking.

I maintain that bringing your dog home for the others to see, sniff & accept life has left their buddy is the way forward, ..it is a heavier but shorter burden to bear imho.

We took him down to the crem, where we found out they use oil to feed the burners, it was a big place & pretty busy, despite our feelings I couldn't resist asking what amount of energy / litres  it took for a typical crem, nor did the office lady know.

..such is life, & death, I'd like to know it is greener than it is, but too late!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on September 09, 2016, 03:49:04 PM
Thanks Gus our feelings are with you and yours as well.

No matter how correct your decision you still feel guilty. Human nature I guess.

To sort of change the subject many moons ago I worked for a company that manufactured a revolutionary new board product out of gypsum and phenolic resin. It rather resembled the interior of a crunchie bar. Amongst it's alleged attributes was a burn at a very predictable rate.

One of the marketing ideas was coffins.

If you are easily shocked stop reading now.

The problem of wooden coffins is they all burn at different rates at the cremmie it is essential that it reaches full heat before coffin burn through. Otherwise it gets very messy. I have no idea of the practicalities nor do I want to know.
So a test coffin was made at the factory and needed to be taken from there to HQ in Slough.
A much younger me was volunteered to drive this there in my bosses XR3 around the M25 late Friday afternoon.
The car broke down on the M25 during the rush hour.
The boys in blue were soon on the scene.
Do you have any idea of how difficult it is to explain why you have a sub size coffin in your car on a Friday afternoon.
My explanation was not readily believed. I got the idea they thought I wanted to brake down.
Amusing now...... but at the time.



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 06, 2016, 10:02:59 AM
An little Update on Sheba,
                        She is a quite a gal, very determined,quite ruthless and 100% intense sheepdog. It seems like years ago since she landed here last May but it has only been 5 months and she
   Is still developing and learning. She still dashes for the door if we lift the brush but her eating habits have become normal and now she leaves a mouthfull in the dish these past few weeks.
   Her weight more than doubled but cut back to a sensible 35kgs and she has learned to cope with that and not crash like she was doing after the first few months. She is also on a normal diet without
   supplements or added vitamins. Personality wise she is a jealous little thing, very very intense. Training is hilarious with times where she cannot contain herself with excitement and takes off around the
   apple trees like a dervish only to return to the exact position at my left calf..Walking to heel without the lead and swinging right and left still confuses and annoys her but I decided to replace the weight
   of the lead on her collar with a corresponding weight and that fooled her long enough to get the idea, She thought she was still on the lead and did not take off dashing round the apple trees like mad
   and completed her rounds successfully to both our satisfactions.
   I have mixed her in with the visitors but only after asking their permission,Still she never takes her eyes of them,,never and they burn bright. A good friend of mine made a visit to us and of course
   asked to allow Sheba to come along. he is very deaf like me and we were both discussing a UPS in the shed and talking very loud and W said, You know that Blxxdy dog is looking at me kind of sharp,
   I could not help but laugh. "Here Miss" I called and Sheb came over immediately and threw herself on the ground with her 4 feet up in the air for a game.
   From day one, I could send her out to the left and to the right and freeze her anywhere. She just streaks out in the semi circle following the trajectory of my arms. so exercising her is easy. She was
   easy to train to stay. She must have been severely punished for carrying things, perhaps stealing but she has never stolen anything here(touchwood)
   In May, When she was only 2 days here and we allowed her to sniff the house over, she went into the bedroom and settled on a shoe. She was still that hungry that she ate the leather of the shoe.
   She did not chew it at all,just bit clean through the soft leather,the tongue and the top of the shoe right down to the toe.Leaving this clear bite mark on the top of toe area. No tugging or chewing.
   This was the only bit of damage she has done (touchwood). She was on 4 small meals a day back then.
   Her training has given her good self esteem and the release sends her into a frenzy of joy. I had to be careful in the beginning because she crashed a few times and once into a tree stump that left
   her sore for days. We don,t leave her in the house when we go out, There are two reasons, one is that she is happier without the responsibility. The other is that she can give Diese quite a hard time
   of it. Yet she has learned to switch off now, only this past few weeks, she can slow her breathing right down. There will come the time when she gets the place when we go out. The fawney dog is
   leaving and the true heart is settling in. Lorenz did say that it takes 5 months but I have known females dogs that switched to my side in the first 24 hours that i knew them, to the detriment of the
   previous owners who could not approach her never mind stroke her. Xena, (They had cracked two of her ribs) but then she was mad about 4 legged Biff as well. Sheba is very very normal, yet you
   could not tell her that. She was gifted the constitution of an ox and the energy of a dervish,the two together make for hard work,Still she is a joy to be with and wonders of wonders, she turned out
   like the ugly duckling a real class act with a coat and looks that would easily  be at home in the show ring. She has a lot to teach me yet but we are on the open road.
                                              Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 06, 2016, 06:26:06 PM
Little Fifi our guide dog puppy, will be going to big school in Lemington soon. D Day (dog-gone day) is the 13th, so one more week to enjoy her. Then some tears!

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 06, 2016, 07:56:50 PM
I don,t know If I could do that Mart,
                                    I know that I would be really upset to part with someone that shared our lives and enriched them.  Yet, I can see that you are doing something generous and good.
    I must be a more selfish type. I value the company in the early morning stroll, Last walks, The routine, the Team. If I include a canine friend into it,they are in for the long haul. They become part
    of the whole fabric, not daft or useless but valued company.
    Yet I know you are doing a good thing and I admire you for it.
    Little Sheb has yet to know that I am profoundly deaf, and that is funny as well because when she whines for attention Diese understands but often refuses to oblige. I can imagine him smirking to
    himself and saying to her " He he smarty,There are still some things you have to learn". Yet when the posty arrives she drums on the stairs dashes up and jumps around in circles  ;D and I know it
    will be all working perfectly by Christmas.
    Being deaf, I value the company highly. For years old Nat used to sit behind me at the PC, she would want attention or want out to the toilet, She would put her shout under my elbow and flick it
    gently upwards at first, If I dallied,. she would get a bit rougher by degree. You could not ignore her and Diese would just bump the back of the chair. I still feel Nat touching my elbow late at night
    Little Sheb and Diese would be fast asleep and yet about once a week, I feel Old Nat nudge my elbow. It does not bother me in the slightest, I just say "Good Girl" the others never stir.
    Tomorrow is giving for good weather and I will take a pic of 4 legged Biff,s grave. It,s October and all the flowers are dying, On his grave is a single rose,fragile,dainty and vivid red.
    Goodness, I must be sounding a little morbid but nothing could be further from the truth.
                                                                             Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 07, 2016, 06:19:52 PM
(https://s3.postimg.org/a96tu2akf/006.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/a96tu2akf/). Buck is pulling the sledge in the film "Call of the Wild", Diese,s favourite. Taken at the start of summer.

(https://s3.postimg.org/tpm7alvin/015.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tpm7alvin/) Sleepy Galway girl, tired out and pensive.

(https://s12.postimg.org/4xkom198p/028.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4xkom198p/) 40 winks and dreams after dinner.

(https://s18.postimg.org/qzyolp5dx/037.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qzyolp5dx/)  Classy gal,With 4 legged Biff,s rose and our kid Diese on the front lawn.
   Rounded off with golden sunshine, A perfect end to a perfect day,
                                                Biff



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 07, 2016, 07:26:51 PM
I don,t know If I could do that Mart,                                   

It's a tough one to call Biff. I'd class Wifey and myself as too soft to do this, and we did ponder it for nearly 10 years, but (famous last words) it's not as hard as we thought it might be as we knew from day 1 that she was going. Could you look after a friends dog for a year whilst they are away? You will of course fall in love with it, and be sad, but knowing it'll go means you have a different outlook from the start.

For us we decided that if it was too upsetting, we simply wouldn't do it again, and regardless of how sad we were, it wasn't going to kill us. So worth a shot.

We will hopefully do it again, but want to get our own dog first, plus my back is playing up more and more, so need to get that sorted as even a 30kg dog is proving slightly too much at the moment.

Speaking of weights, here's a pic of Fifi with her boyfriend Alfie. No longer the tiny 25kg 4 month old we met, he's now 50kg+ and 9 months, but a loveable monster.

(https://s16.postimg.org/riwx9hd0h/IMG_2374.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/riwx9hd0h/)

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on October 07, 2016, 07:46:50 PM
Mart, I used to get backache via the dog pulling on the lead. The trick is to stick your thumb inside your trouser waistband, or pocket, so that the load from the lead is below the bottom of your spine. Hopefully, your button or clasp will not fail but hey, it will entertain onlookers.
These days they are both off the lead under voice control, unless we are on a busy road.
Stan
I love the photos guys!
How about this story Biff? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-37574881


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 07, 2016, 09:07:33 PM
Aye Stann,
            I spotted that one a few days ago, Mr Jacques needs to further his research some more before he can call himself an expert,
    The wolf family will travel a lot lot more than 250 miles to get what they want.
    The Alsation type dog her refers to originated in Alsace Loraine.
    I am wary of the experts, I remember 30 years ago round about the time they were trying to established the Druid pack in Yellowstone.
    (The Northern Rocky Mountain Wolf Rescue Plan 1987)
   They talked about how the wolf was never a danger to humans and that all they wanted was to be left alone.
   They did great work in getting the wolf well established and out of the endangered area, I would be a big fan of Mr wolf, I have always been.
   Yet I know that the wolves in the wild will take any foolish human for a snack who gads about under his nose believing such tosh.
   They are a top predator and an extremely clever one as well. They deserve the utmost respect.
    Jack London,wrote reams about the klondike and of course the wolves that hunted there. He wrote best selling fiction and one of the stories he
    he wrote concerned a trapper who was being stalked by a group of hungry wolves. He had one round left in his rifle and could not work up the courage to shoot
    himself. The wolves were just a little out of range and they sensed he was out of ammunition,He woke up to find that the wolves had gathered round him in a semi circle
    as he lay back against the base of a tree, He described the way that the wolves looked across at him from 10ft. They made low guttural noises so as not to upset him ,
    and their eyes had a friendly benign look in them, He knew if he shot one he was dead anyhow but suddenly in an act of sheer madness he jumped up and started shouting and cursing
    and daring them to attacking him, he was delirious and ranting.. The wolves jumped back and spread out to study him for about 5 minutes and then they turned away and left him, completely
    insulted and disgusted,,This was supposed to be fiction but Lorenz stated that for anyone to know and describe exactly what would happen in such circumstances,they would have to have
    been in that situation themselves.  It must have been London himself or someone very close to him because it was not fiction, it had to be true. But there is logic present as well.
    In her time, Anny Oakley rode Pony Express very successfully and survived many encounters with the native American. She was naturally dressed as a man and rode like a man and when the
    they got too close and she was trying to outrun them, She would stand up on her horse and make very crude hand signals at them dancing up on down on the horses back going hell for leather,
    The Natives  ;D would just wheel away and think themselves lucky to have avoided her,,They believed she had rabies and were terrified of even going close to her. It was they who had the lucky
    escape or so they thought, It is possible the Wolves drew similar instinctive conclusions..
                          errrrr  did you hear the one about the Bear and the Rabbit walking in the woods together, ?
                                                                           Biff
    


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 08, 2016, 03:20:25 PM
Cure for backache let Mrs T hold the lead.
 facepalm

Great pictures and stories.

Mart will be thinking of you, hope it goes well. I admire what you are doing but know I could never do it. :genuflect


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 13, 2016, 01:32:24 PM
D-Day has arrived, Fifi packed her bags

(https://s14.postimg.org/49ns8bcul/IMG_20161013_092958.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/49ns8bcul/)

then our supervisor arrived with Jake, and they got to have a play a great play and make friends

(https://s9.postimg.org/me6e4nsaz/IMG_20161013_102229.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/me6e4nsaz/)

then it was time to jump in the car for a nice trip to Leamington, where, if they've bonded, they will hopefully get to share with each other

(https://s15.postimg.org/7uvtv7m9z/IMG_20161013_103743.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7uvtv7m9z/)

then school starts and the test begin

(https://s13.postimg.org/997883xkj/FB_IMG_1474566644726.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/997883xkj/)

There have been a few tears here, but it's all good, and mostly smiles. Fifi will be very happy and fingers crossed will be helping someone next Spring.

All the best.

Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 13, 2016, 04:44:33 PM
Congratulations Mart.
Job well done despite the sad goodbyes. ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 16, 2016, 08:45:33 PM
Helga,
        He was quite famous before we ever met. At 14 months he leapt on an armed robber who was sticking up the Green line filling station, the first one on the right as you exit the Mersey tunnel in Birkenhead. The guy walked in and pulled out a gun but Helga who had been asleep suddenly reared off the floor and grabbed the offending arm and floored him.
  He was all over the Liverpool echo for an evening. He was mine for the taking away as long as he got a good home. The petrol station had closed and now he was patrolling an insurance compound on the  Wallasey Docks. The compound was also closing and the owner wanted a decent home for him.
  First he was big,,very big, I was told,, and he is not keen on strangers,,  We arrived at the compound and D shouted ,,Helgaaaaaaaa.. The next instance this bear bounced of the wire fencing..Yes he was big  very big but he was also long haired and maybe not as big as he looked. He was super confident and steady. We kept walking around the compound and talking and getting the dog used to my voice and accent before putting him in the car. So after 20 minutes D puts him in the back of my car and I am in the front drivers seat. I drop D off and head home and as I am about to drive away he says to me, If you get out of the car, take him out on the lead with you because he will never let you back in, unless you both get in together,,  :-X.
  I drove the 5 mile and fed him,,then I tried to groom him but his coat was was tatty and needed quite a bit of work. I did cut the worst tats off, wiped him down with a damp cloth . He slept well that night, no howling or complaining,I groomed him each day when I got back from work, walked him and fed him and came to the conclusion that he was no fool and had the making of a really good one.
  I had several people wanting good Shepards and one was a lass who worked in a filling station on the Upton road. She was young and it was her first job and she was mad about my top dog P. She had no hesitation opening the back of my station wagon and stroking P and chatting to him. P was not particularly friendly but he liked her a lot. So I got Helga ready for a demo at the filling station.
 These things happen..Like 4legged Biff falling for Xena the blonde at first sight and falling asleep at her feet,,just like that.. This was how it was at the filling station, I hauled Helga out and asked the girl,
  "So what do you think" I did not notice the tears at the start. She repeated that she had no money to pay for him. She was hugging this guy Helga like mad and he was wagging his tail, the first time I saw him wagging it. I asked her could she afford to feed him and she said a big yessss.
  I knew her circumstances, her mother lived in an upstairs masonette ,She was an invalid,and could not leave the premise because she used a wheelchair to get about. She had to endure twice weekly visits from thieves who ramsacked her rooms and stole anything of value, while she sat in the wheel chair and watched, they entered the premises through a rear window above a flat roof,easily accessible from the rear garden because the garden sloped down.. if she locked the window, they broke the glass.(nice folks)  This girl was the carer and the breadwinner. She would walk Helga the 3 mile home and to get to know him. I supplied her with a decent lead .
  Helga enjoyed the thieves visits until they stopped calling. He would wait until they were on the roof and the mother would let him go. The thieves always just managed to reach the back wall and destroy themselves trying to get over it, Helga could bounce down into the garden from the flat roof. He could bounce back up on the roof with very little effort. Sometime he came back with a shoe and I guess they must have worked it out that the shoes were costing more than they were able to steal. I tanked up at her filling station each weekend and got the news on his progress. She had my number if she ever needed to call me but she never had to call, which was excellent. Then she went on night shift and got paid for Helga as well.
  Sometimes she would call him over to say hello but he just looked through me. He only had eyes for her. She worked there for a few years and then I noticed that she had not been about for a few months and asked how she was and was told that she had changed address, her buddy Helga was going strong and I was satisfied with that. At the start, I was going to try and persuade her to change his name but then I had a think about it and suggested that she let it stay,,If ever she was in a tricky situation at home,she could always ask "Do you mind if I ask Helga,? and call him. and Helga it was.
    I could not possibly keep him myself, I already had two very good Shepards and I was reluctant to cause any upset by bringing in Helga...He would simply want to be boss and my P would never allow that. It all worked out good in the end. The lass was a natural dog handler, She assured me she never had a dog in her life before..she was no way foolish and the dog took to her immediately.h
                                                                                        Biff
  Some of the people who asked me to find them a dog, You could easily tell that their best bet was a gold fish but you would never tell them that. A lot of them would be self confessed dog experts who would give you a lesson on how to approach a cross dog, how to get round it. The question was,why had they not been eaten alive already. The obvious answer to that one is. Our canine friends are a lot smarter than we give them credit for and the fool will get a pardon for a little while. ;D.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 17, 2016, 10:35:33 AM
Back in those days above,
                            I attended a dog training school twice a week. One hour on a Sunday afternoon which was a relaxed affair,where I helped with the tea and butties. On the Sunday we got to see how other dogs performed and we had a Gala day every months or so where there were obedience competitions for young dogs. It was semi Civie back then ,the police still controlled half of the management or so we were told. It would have been excellent place to recruit good police dogs.There were easily 40 dogs present on a Sunday. All kinds. The name GDS was not used there. It was certainly in use in the Republic of Ireland and it would be a few years later before England would adopt the GDS name. Back then the naughty bad dog that every one frowned on was the Rottie and sure enough any that turned up at the classes had serious behavioural problems. In fact ,from what i could see,they were a nightmare on 4 legs and were banned on the Sunday training sessions.
  Dog owners starting off, were encouraged to turn up in a Church hall for an hour,s training and this was where the difficult dogs would surface. The management would study the difficult dog,(which would be trying to take a lump out of every dog in the hall) and then decided to either allow the dog to continue or else tell the owner to take it out and exercise it for half an hour and return for the second half of the training session. I witnessed one such evening when a large Babs Woodhouse type lady turned up with a crazy Rottie, When she came back for the second half her Rottie was frothing at the mouth and really intent in getting up close and personal with the other dogs in the hall. One of our trainers asked for the lead as drew the dog out into the centre of the hall, Telling him to sit. you could cut the silence with a knife, I knew that this same trainer was one of the best that there was in the group, After some short consideration the dog decided to attack him and we watched as the dog fought for traction and lunged back and forth on the slippy wooden floor, then I realised why the hall was the venue on a Wednesday night. ;D. Every time he attacked, he got dumped on the broad of his back till finally the trainer took him back to his owner and told the red faced woman to take him away.
  The training sessions were very pleasant social events as well. To be honest, I never won a single thing in all the 3 years I attended but I got great enjoyment and got to realise that there was something big missing. The training methods used were those of the police and the military and they did not allow for dogs using their own initiative. The only books available then, that were able to convey any sense of it all to the reader were the ones by Lorenz. It was many years later that Desmond Morris decided to throw his "Naked Ape" into the ring which was in fact a glossy part copy of Lorenz,s work. There were loads of other books that went off into the fringes ,books on human thinking, ;D that led nowhere. Books by big names that have now been confined to the rubbish bin. It was only the case histories,dealing with wolves that held the key to it all, Lorenz himself as a big fan of the wolf. there is nothing romantic or silly about it ,it had to start somewhere.
  The military and the police would hit the news every decade with accusations of cruelty and mismanagement of our canine friends. They still do. The tales of the many thousands of GSDs that were left behind in Vietnam by the retreating US army are enough to chill you to the bone.
 One of the things that the school looked out for was Good dogs that needed a home and that was why i took an interest in Helga and other Shepards.
 The years go by and the different breeds show improved traits,The Rotties seems to be a very placid easy going fellow these days. the Irish red setter is on a roll. The Germand Shepard are all displaying nervous anxiety traits. The Akita has split in two,the US Akita and the Japanese Akita. I need not say anything about the pitbull only to record that they were not about 40 years ago. You can buy any dog you like in Ireland as long as you have the money and a place to keep it. I am guessing that there are more dangerous breeds of dogs in Ireland per head of population. You can also buy a Canadian timber wolf and take him home with you to keep him on a ordinary dog licence. I recall a job that i was doing for a lady in the heart of Dublin. I saw a massive big wolf looking across the top of the low wall at me. Frank his owner invited me in to meet him. Wolf was his name and he was a fantastic big lump. really cool. I was able to learn from Frank first hand how they worked,how they thought,how they could see through our eyes and that is really scary,they can.
   Like I said before, there are natural dog handlers, I would not class myself as such but yes,there are natural dog handlers and ones who should keep well away from dogs, they just cannot help but bait and tease the dogs to distraction,mental cruelty. you can actually see them doing it in your presence. There is one for everyone as there is a mate for every human, the old dog that lies by the fire breaking wind and barking in his sleep does just as good a job for his owner as the trials dog working sheep his master..They get along good.
                                                       Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on October 17, 2016, 12:04:47 PM
Great reading Biff! Keep it coming.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 17, 2016, 08:27:52 PM
Saving for tomorrow's morning coffee :crossed


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 18, 2016, 07:33:31 AM
Another great one Biff.
I recall watching a documentary about Helene Grimaud the concert pianist who has a wolf sanctuary.
Wonderful animals.

As Stan says keep em coming.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on November 25, 2016, 11:35:19 AM
My collie Bryn started to develop problems with his rear hips about 2 years back. I must say that it brought a tear to my eye when I had to rescue him from mud on the bank of the brook. From then on we only used gentle entry to the water for stick games. He also began to find it difficult to cross the cattle grid and would end up with the rear legs both falling in the gap. I tried feeding codliver oil for a while but the real breakthrough was glucosamine sulphate tablets. Now both he and I have a 1gm tablet per day at about 6p each. The startling result is a perfect crossing of the cattle grid with him now knowing where all his feet are landing. He also walks very nicely on the level but has had enough at 4 miles, followed by a good sleep.
It's the stone stiles that are the problem now on our walks. A young dog would clear, climb or squeeze through but unless they have a decent gap then a lifting operation follows, something like this; hand OS map to Wife, get into an efficient position, arm under chest, hand under thigh, lift 25kg with front legs scrabbling everywhere and not helping, pass through the wider gap at the top, try to lower gently at the other side whilst falling over, then observe mud on sleeves. On some walks this is repeated many times and mentally recorded as one to avoid. The difficulty is compounded when a small spring-loaded gate is adjacent to the stile or when there is wood and barbed wire there.
Anyway, this is a message of hope because the glucosamine has led to a noticeable recovery in my dog's health.
Stan



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 25, 2016, 04:39:32 PM
That is good news indeed Stann,
                              Years ago, I used to get a small anti inflammatory from the vet for my old dogs, It worked wonders and gave them a decent quality of life for another good 2 years and more. I gave 4 legged Biff small doses of asprin after meals and it made a fantastic difference. He was a big age for such a big dog and his old hips were clonking quite badly.
   It is sad to them them in pain. Touchwood our lot seem to be doing well. Diesel will be 7 in March and because of his weight and size, it means he will only have a couple of more years left. He was not supposed to grow as big as he did but he has a brother about 30 miles away in Ballyshannon who is half as big and heavy again..Leon, what a name for a dog.!!.
  Diesel,s dad was around the 45kg max and Cassie His Mam would have maxed around the 40kgs, We are very lucky with him health wise because he is so healthy. Every time we go near the vet,she goes , "Oh Dear,,he is much much too heavy" and I end up making excuses, like he is heavy bones and he has a 42" chest (And he really likes his grub) etc. and we promise to make sure that he goes on a diet .
 He never looks big to us and he is unbelievably clever in small spaces.If you are coming through with a tray of food, He is up and out of the way before you have to speak.
  There are certain parts on "The call of The Wild" that he jumps up and barks at the telly. One is where the indian shoot his master and Buck heads off after the Indian to sort him.There are plenty of worse scenes than that one but for some reason, Diesel will get quite annoyed, the suspense in the music does play a big part but he understand a lot of what goes on.
 I am going to get some of those Glucosamine Sulphate tablets as soon as I can and take the myself. ;D. I don,t know about you lot but this cold weather makes me ache from head to foot
                                                           Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on November 25, 2016, 06:19:33 PM
It's best to feed the pill with kibble but his game is to finish all the kibble and leave the white pill. Scissoring the pill in half helps and feeding it in the dark helps even more....and if that doesn't work then it goes in the next meal.
As for my own consumption of glucosamine, I really don't know whether it is beneficial; I still have aches in cold weather.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on November 25, 2016, 07:35:02 PM
Delighted to hear about the dogs improvement Stann
Might give them a try me not the dog ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on November 26, 2016, 12:38:39 PM
Does anyone know if you crush cat worming tablets they are still as effective? Or do they have to go down whole.

I have just finished staunching the blood from giving Trex (tyrannosaurus rex) her worming tablet her claws can be quite painful.

Things tried

Covering tablet in cheese,fish,chicken,  no joy
Hiding tablet in food bowl empty except for the tablet.
Having one of those flicky things a bit like a syringe that puts the tablet at the back of the throat. results in bloodshed ours.

She is now twelve and rules the house.

Glucosamine tablets ordered from Big River and we will give them a go.





We are merely her feeble servants.

Any thoughts
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 26, 2016, 01:02:14 PM
Hi Tod,
       I would guess that they would be more effective crushed.
 Put her in cage just before you are supposed to feed her, Don,t feed elliot or her for a good 4 hours, then get Elliot,s dish next to the cage and feed him only,
  Get nice cooked sausage, take out innards, mix the crushed tablet into the innards and push it back into the sausage. If you place a crushed garlic clove next to the sausage it will mask the smell of the tablet,
  Put her dish on the floor next to the cage and leave the cage door ajar.then be busy doing something else but don,t stay to watch her but keep her locked in the room for fear she might bury the sausage.
                                               Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on November 26, 2016, 02:01:43 PM
In this clip it suggests that you ask whether the pill is suitable for splitting Tod. The cat overcoat seems a good idea.
http://icatcare.org/advice/how-give-your-cat-tablet
Muggins here always volunteers to hold the cat whilst Herself administers the pill, AND I always get shouted at for holding the cat at the wrong angle, AND the pill usually ends up on the floor.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on November 26, 2016, 05:50:40 PM
Hiya Tod, I was going to suggest the flicky syringe thingy, but clearly that's no good. Pill crushers are great, so long as the tablet is suitable. But this is what we used for about a year to give 5 daily tablets to one of our old boys (as long as the tabs are smallish):-

Cat stick treats (http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=286544152&sc_cmp=ppc-_-sh-_-msh-_-bt-_-px_%7c_shopping_gsc_%7c_all_products_+_brand-_-&gclid=Cj0KEQiAguXBBRCE_pbQ5reuq8MBEiQANji2Lc06WOdv7TvPvXEL1-6fpBe5QwVJVsfaWuBTpfK81-UaAg0x8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds)

Loads of makes and flavours out there. Just snap off about 1/2 inch, split half way with fingers or fingernail, then pop the tab inside and squash it back together. You might have to experiment with flavours as some are like beef jerky, cats love em, but you can't 'work' with them as the tabs drop out if not eaten quickly, whilst others are more like cheese consistency, so split and mold back easily.

Also good value at about 10+ tabs to the stick, and perhaps 10 or so sticks to the 1, and easily stored by the tabs as the stick will slide back down the tube a bit, between uses.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on November 26, 2016, 07:54:08 PM
Thanks chaps

It is amazing how something so small etc😀

She was born in a cellar and came to us at about 6 weeks no human contact that or a one way trip!!!

She lived up stairs at home hiding during the day and then sneaking under the duvet and sleeping on our feet before going back into hiding in the morning.

This went on for several weeks of occasional glimpses.

She gradually became less nervous. I should add she ate her food Lidl fish the only thing she would eat, us panicking about her starving, and always used her litter tray.

Now at 12 still a fussy eater sits on my lap when she wants, never in Mrs T, hates being picked up a total 5hit. We still love her.
Runs away from Elliott then has enough stops and chases him . Ignores him then goes to where he is sleeping and miaows in his ear.

Are any animals normal


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on November 26, 2016, 07:58:33 PM
Stan how old is Bryn?



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on November 26, 2016, 10:30:29 PM
13 and a bit now Tod.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on November 27, 2016, 08:15:34 AM
A decent age Stan its sad when they start to slow down.
With luck a few years left yet. ;D

The original Tod became very choosy about when to venture out loved the wind hated rain.
Had this sort of off you go then, see you later look and when he really didn't want to go would turn his head away.

Quite tough walking where you are?


Going to be interesting to see if Biff and I start leap over stiles on the new tablets!



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: MR GUS on December 09, 2016, 11:15:32 AM
In this clip it suggests that you ask whether the pill is suitable for splitting Tod. The cat overcoat seems a good idea.
http://icatcare.org/advice/how-give-your-cat-tablet
Muggins here always volunteers to hold the cat whilst Herself administers the pill, AND I always get shouted at for holding the cat at the wrong angle, AND the pill usually ends up on the floor.
Stan

The squirty down the throat stuff was a good one for us with our ginger to55er (that was on of his names) ..it was fast, & after years of towels & claws experience similar to stanns, quick, ..apart from the "deathly looks" as he sat drooling some of the stuff for the next 20 minutes, ...hate filled, ..you can imagine the indignity he felt.  :hysteria ...god I miss that cat so much.

Last night was needle night for my beloved protector at 10. 3/4 year old girl laying beside me  as I write, she was ready.

First time in 15 years we've been without a red boxer, & she was the last of the docked tail, ...catching my breath as I measure out their scrambled eggs this morning, routines dashed, & emotions.

Once again to reiterate, the corpse was brought home, the 2 youngsters were allowed their time, they knew the decline, but needed the closure of knowing / smelling that she was gone.  ..this morning they are doing better than me, ..that's good.

So now to wrap her & get her into a freezer (don't think bad of me, she's no more & she go's with dignity) ..prior to us taking her to the sadly kerosene burning crematorium at Duxford.

The difference between allowing her to go (she was filling up with fluid, heart, kidneys packing in, bladder "gone" lost 6 kilo's & all her muscle-tone in the past 14 days, ...always been a solid muscular person, down to 26kg ..no fat when we weighed her last night. ..compared to the feeling that we had our last "boy" ripped from us before his time made for such a difference in acceptance, ..i'm blazing with fury for the other dog to this day, ..it isn't healthy.

She good as told us she was ready to go & wasn't comfy with her bladder, it unsettled her to have to be put out really frequently.

So, after today with all the washing (blankets) ..the washing machine gets a rest, but the feeding stations placements dropped by another 25% in such a short time ..which made me choke.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on December 09, 2016, 12:39:02 PM
Very sad GUS.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on December 09, 2016, 08:47:38 PM
Oh Gus I'm so sorry for you and the family
Tod


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on January 13, 2017, 10:12:56 AM
Great call yesterday from the training team at Guide dogs in Leamington. Little Fifi is doing great and will graduate from their training in the next week or so. Then she moves on to advanced training and being matched up with her partner.

Hopefully this link will work

https://www.facebook.com/leamdogcare.000/?fref=ts

if you scroll down just a page you'll see 9 photos on the RHS, and Fifi is in the middle smiling (black Lab cross). [Edit: Now bottom left, and will presumably keep changing. M.]

Her trainer told me yesterday that they've been walking the streets in full harness and wearing a blindfold. Bet Fi looks cute with a blindfold on, but it must make the job much harder!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on January 14, 2017, 11:24:40 AM
 exhappy: :genuflect :genuflect


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on January 14, 2017, 05:32:44 PM
Well done M,
            You have done a good job. :genuflect
                                          Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on January 14, 2017, 06:20:50 PM
Well done M,
            You have done a good job. :genuflect
                                          Biff

TBH, it's quite a relief, as we just sent a happy/doppy 14 month old pup off to school. We had no idea if she was a good un or not, and apparently it's almost impossible to tell, till they get to school, and decide if they want to do it or not.

We'd have felt sad, but also guilty if she hadn't made it, silly as that may seem.

Wifey is going up in 4 weeks to see her train in full harness. Apparently you hide and watch sneakily, so as not to put the dog off, before being introduced to them afterwards. It's too far for me to travel, as I can't sit for long in a car, but Wifey will video it for me.

Still hope to get our own dog this year, but need to see how I'm doing to get an idea on size (for pulling) and also for home activity. Never considered one before, but all the whippets I meet are lovely, and the owners say that they burn out on a run, so are quite quiet at home. Cockapoo still top of the list, though I'd prefer a Labradoodle, but again size is an issue. If I could it would be a Rottie, Mastiff, or Irish Wolfhound. I fuss a Dogue de Bordeaux (Turner & Hooch) every day when I pass the gate, and I love them to bits, but their life expectancy is only about 6yrs, and that would upset me too much.

At the moment I'm happy with my daily walk round the lake/park. I always come back with muddy paw prints on me, a great measure of success.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: RIT on January 15, 2017, 01:42:29 AM

Still hope to get our own dog this year, but need to see how I'm doing to get an idea on size (for pulling) and also for home activity. Never considered one before, but all the whippets I meet are lovely, and the owners say that they burn out on a run, so are quite quiet at home. Cockapoo still top of the list, though I'd prefer a Labradoodle, but again size is an issue. If I could it would be a Rottie, Mastiff, or Irish Wolfhound. I fuss a Dogue de Bordeaux (Turner & Hooch) every day when I pass the gate, and I love them to bits, but their life expectancy is only about 6yrs, and that would upset me too much.


Maybe a Golden Retriever as their life expectancy is nicer and when I last lived with one, sit/stop was a command they would follow, even if the look you got was one of 'YOU WHAT - I was having fun and the muddy puddle over there is where I want to be'. Such a beast is part of my retirement plans in a few years time, but I need more free time, a better location and fewer carpets around the house.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: heatherhopper on January 16, 2017, 02:59:10 PM
Quote
Cockapoo still top of the list

(https://s23.postimg.org/4nqy7y95j/DSC02921.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4nqy7y95j/)

Highly recommended even though I don't hold much with all the fashionable mixing going on. This one came as a rescue case and was a "failed" hearing dog - something about being over-possessive with toys etc, a trait which disappeared very quickly with some "firm" guidance. Probably the quickest learner I've ever had but needs an awful lot of activity. Slotted in with the rest of the pack beautifully and keeps us all from decaying too fast. Doesn't cast his hair which is a blessing of sorts. Note supposed colour is peach but most of the time you wouldn't know.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on February 19, 2017, 10:17:27 PM
Old Bryn isn't one for the hill climbing these days, although where we live you're going to have to climb a hill somewhere on the walk. So, along with Moll we'll do about 3 miles first thing in the morning. It's all about sniffing and pi$$ing really, the dogs that is, although I sometimes join in. We just go that bit slower now. The reward is to fill our faces when we get back home. However, around midday, I have to remember to go and pick up Betfred from the farm. She's the one on my solar farm post. I put her on a long lead to walk down the hill on the road along with Moll who is walking free. This is because Bett is as nervous as hell if we should meet anyone walking or a horse but also because she's itching to round up sheep. It's quite clear that she has been mal-treated by whoever trained and sold her. Then, at the brook, we cross the hump-back bridge and enter the meadows. Another 2 fields and we cross the narrow footbridge to the church and they are back on their own farm, with no sheep visible on the route to their quarters. I release Bet, the dogs both sniff around in the reed tufts of the marshy area, then one of them starts the race which takes them up a very steep hill, back home, at a heck of speed. I can see them all the way and hear them barking when they get there and meet the other 3 collies in cell-block A. Myself, I seem to arrive about 10 minutes later, huffing and puffing.
I shut up Bett and we go home to Bryn, who is quite pleased to have missed all the excitement.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on February 20, 2017, 08:04:45 AM
Lovely post Stan.
Our routine is similar, up coffee, out with Elliott. We have two regular morning strolls, the moose walk which has deer wild pigs and guess what!  You very rarely get a glimpse but in the snow the tracks are plain to see.  Our neighbour puts out waste food from the supermarket everyday for the wild boar and they turn up between 17:30 &18:00 to eat it. The other is called the ridge walk we can do either from the back door with no car.  They take about 45 mins, a couple of times a week we do a longer walk up to a couple of hours. He then gets another walk late afternoon. Elliott has extended lead 5m as dogs here are not allowed to run free we do go down to local lake accessed by a dirt track not near anyone or anything and we can let him off.
No where is flat but it is undulating rather than hilly and woody everywhere.

Today our friend who runs an alpaca farm and offers guided walks has asked for help as she has a group of 16 and a 2 and a half hour walk, we will help put the head collars on and then ride shotgun at the rear, there is a brown alpaca called Tobasco  and we have 'issues' he spat out his vitamins solution and had to be redone and tries to kick while you are doing it. Attitude problems.  I have to say generally much nicer than sheep, the snow has now gone so should be fun.  Elliott will come too !! Our friend thinks this is a good idea??? Hummmmm.

All that exercise probably means you have a shiny coat and a cold damp nose as well Stan.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on February 20, 2017, 09:29:32 AM
You guys are the real athletes,
                               We just dander about.15 minutes 4 times a day, ;D They know the circular route better than I do.
 Both dodge the mud and puddles better than I do. Both sleep like logs,,,,,,,,Better than I do.
  Watching TV can be exciting though, Especially when that Caesar dog food add come on,   :o :o
                                                   Biff
        


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on April 24, 2017, 06:41:27 PM
Just had a phonecall from Guide Dogs, and Fifi has qualified. She's been training with her GDO (guide dog owner) for several weeks now and today made it to the finishing line, so to speak.

The good news for Fi is that the young lady has been able to keep her 10yr old retired GD, so Fi will have a housemate, and also the lady has a boyfriend who also has a guide dog, and lives nearby, so she'll spend a lot of time with two dogs, and also be working with another dog when out walking.

Hopefully I'll get a picture I can post, but in the meantime here's a pic from the early days, and one of her on her last day with us.


(https://s30.postimg.org/8i8o185il/IMG_1926.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8i8o185il/)


(https://s23.postimg.org/cnnfdiraf/IMG_20161013_092958.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/cnnfdiraf/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on April 24, 2017, 06:52:06 PM
You did a good job Mart,
                  Fair play to you, :genuflect
                                  Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on April 24, 2017, 10:11:03 PM
That is great!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on April 25, 2017, 08:18:56 AM
 :genuflect fantastic Mart, well done!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on April 25, 2017, 08:46:22 AM
I take my hat off to you for being able to train a GD Pup and then pass her on to a new family, not sure I could do the last bit.....


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on April 27, 2017, 05:36:08 PM
Hiya guys and girls, got some pics of Fi. The best show the Lady and her partner, and I don't think I should post those (as I don't know them). But here are a couple of nice ones, one with chuckles looking up at the camera, as usual, and one of all three dogs. I think Fi is the nearest (based on shiny teeth, as she's younger (21 months v's 10yrs)) but black dogs are hard to tell apart ..... that's my excuse ..... #BadParent!

(https://s28.postimg.org/h60w7r3bd/fifi_march_3.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h60w7r3bd/)


(https://s23.postimg.org/66oda9lzr/gemma_andy_fifi_zimba_april_17_6.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/66oda9lzr/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on April 28, 2017, 07:12:32 AM
Our chums had 5 black labs the youngest​ and the old boy were easy, the 3 in the middle always a puzzle. Sadly I'm usually better at remembering dogs names than people. ralph:


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 25, 2017, 09:44:42 AM
After the storm,
(https://s22.postimg.org/lhkftcjzx/001.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lhkftcjzx/)  I thought we were gonna get married, settle down and raise a family.

(https://s18.postimg.org/4rk4usaet/003.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4rk4usaet/) So did I,

(https://s16.postimg.org/lxoc4luv5/014.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lxoc4luv5/) Mr and Mrs are not altogether happy, but in a few days time they will be back to normal. His front paws are quite bad.He carries such weight that they suffer in broken rocky ground and he would not feel a thing while he was in the romantic mood but he feels it now. They will be right as rain by next Monday. She is in good nick apart from feeling let down.
It is a measure of how much they trust me that they use me as a guide and do everything exactly as they are told. You would expect it to be different. Her kennels are 50ft to the right of our front door and on exiting, he never ever turned right but headed left, off down the yard and the gardens to read the signs and messages she left,same on the return journey, He would not go to her kennels. My guess is that he was afraid of losing control and that it was easier to do the right thing. He has a very difficult time and would have lost a minimum of 10% of his body weight in that short time. There were no mishaps, no upsets and thankfully everything is coming right again.
                                                     Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on May 25, 2017, 12:37:52 PM
Fabulous pictures Biff.

Tod used to have exactly the same expression as the 2nd picture down similar colouring as well

Would not mind loosing 10% of my body weight myself. I'm afraid the root cause of that lies well in the past! ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: GlenW on August 14, 2017, 07:53:48 AM
Fabulous pictures Biff.

Tod used to exactly the same expression as the 2nd picture down similar colouring as well

Would not mind loosing 10% of my body weight myself. I'm afraid the root cause of that lies well in the past! ;D

(http://lifeattheendoftheroad.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/040112027_thumb.jpg?w=476&h=634)

He's so cute, now you got me wanting a little pocket pig.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on August 28, 2017, 12:01:09 PM
I lost my old collie, Bryn, about 5 weeks ago at age 14 years. He had a stroke and a lady vet came out to inject him on the lawn where he lay, whilst Moll was close by to give some appearance of normality. I now do not have my own dog but feel very lucky to be able to walk this pair from the farm, Molly and Kim. Molly is BSc failed and we though that Kim was going the same way. However, she began to take an interest in the sheep and lately has been doing successful collects of  up to 2 dozen ewes.

(https://s2.postimg.org/53ekeshxh/IMG_1831.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/53ekeshxh/)

(https://s2.postimg.org/92brxm6kl/IMG_1834.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/92brxm6kl/)

Kim does a pretty good turn in stripping a tennis ball rather quickly. I can still get the thumbs and middle fingers around her waist.

(https://s2.postimg.org/jey2jp03p/IMG_1835.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jey2jp03p/)

(https://s2.postimg.org/8w2o89mth/IMG_1832.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8w2o89mth/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on August 28, 2017, 02:24:57 PM
Nice pics Stann,
               Kim don,t half bring back memories of a dog that I knew years ago, He was left back with a breeder friend of mine because he had absolutely no interest in sheep at 16 months  old, so he went down the country as a pet on a farm of an English people who kept ducks and chickens, He was only there a few months and he was rounding up the ducks and the hens and then going next door and taking their sheep to the English couple,s farm. So My friend was asked for another collie dog, "one with more sense"  :hysteria.. No problem he said, Take him back and I have another better looking smooth coated one waiting for you. The English couple were delighted with the new all black smooth coated collie, he also has sticky up ears, So My friend took Joss out to see his sheep once again and lo and behold off he went and bunched them all up in a pile in the center of the meadow,, The following months saw the most laid back relaxed training sessions, My friend W had at least 7 other mature dogs to handle, but Joss was a genuine puzzle, he had every advantage that his breeding bestowed on him,except that somehow he had a little too much brown hair on his flanks,which mostly disappeared as he grew taller but stayed on two of his legs. We thought that maybe a ewe or two give him a hard time during his early efforts as a pup but he worked perfect at 2 years old. W never sold him and always pointed to him later if some one came back with a pup that did not start before 10 months. I recall him as a nice mannerly dog, generally speaking good sheep dogs are snobs. W had breeding ladie who would not give you the time of day,, They just lived for sheep.
  I recall two elderly brothers who had a champion sheep dog that they paid serious money for. This day they send the dog up the field to take the sheep out onto the road. A load of tourists stopped to watch and marveled at the speed of John,s dog,  John mentioned to one of the tourists that they could open the gate and allow the sheep out onto the road and they did,,So this lady asked John how he controlled the dog and John sent the dog right out the field checking for sheep and then dropped him almost out of sight sight, Then he call the dog because the sheep were everywhere all over the road,the dog knew this and came barreling down the hill , Just as he was about to shoot through the gate opening ,a child of about 10 pushed the gate and the dog ran headlong into the solid edge of the galvanised farm gate. The dog just dropped on the spot ,like he had been shot. The neighbors came running and put the sheep back in the field. John carried the dog home and laid him out beside the big open fire. He came round during the night,when the place was in darkness and nearly went mad in the living room until John calmed him down.
  He never looked at a sheep for the rest of his short life, once they discovered that he no longer wanted to hunt sheep and could see no possible way of bringing him round to the idea. The brother picked up the shotgun, threw the dog a sausage and give him a round in the back of the head. It was a nasty exit for a very fine dog. They would not even let the neighbors breed from him. The people who sold him and even my friend W were horrified at the waste. The brothers never had any luck afterwards. They were old, in their late 70s back then. They themselves, had a miserable exit after being robbed several times, by persons unknown who took large quantities of cash and even the shotgun. they were never caught.
  Yup Kim would be very fast, with sticky up ears and the white bob on her tail,,She is bound to be good,given time.
                                                                                            Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on August 28, 2017, 02:47:38 PM
The 2 come racing up the up the road to see me just before I've finished breakfast. I give them a small amount of canned food, partly because there's a lot in the shed but also because Kim needs it.....she was very ribby. I'll know when to reduce or stop that game but It's been a pleasure to see her growing in strength and, as you suggest, she's very fast.
Stan
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on August 28, 2017, 02:58:00 PM
So sorry to hear about Bryn, Stan they leave such a hole in your life when they go.

Lovely pictures.

As you know we have a sheep dog failed. We love him to bits. Luckily his previous owner was a kind man and even insisted on paying for his jabs.  
This morning he heard me stir about 6:20, the cat was asleep between MrsT and me so as to avoid disturbing the cat. He walked straight over MrsT before collapsing on me and gently biting my nose as a reminder it was time to be up.  The joys of a collie.

When in France he used to herd the ducks and chickens on his own initiative and we would find them in their fenced area with him guarding the door at midday. Not a help for egg laying.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on August 28, 2017, 04:00:08 PM
I've never experienced that Tod as Herself would not let a dog sleep in the house. Cats.....that's another matter. The two park themselves on either side of her, tightly, until after a few hours the temperature rises enough for one to be flicked off.
Elliot must be raising alarm bells at customs with all the travelling!
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on August 28, 2017, 04:39:29 PM
He and Trexie will have done a few miles.
Hopefully the journey is not so long. Brittany to Sweden 2000+   3 dogs one cat one wife in a Dacia sandero. We spent one night in the car we did need the windows open, not just the dogs!

I'm afraid our dog discipline is not good, his basket is next to our bed, where he sleeps. Most of the time, he does occasionally try his luck, and you wake up with a black and white lump stuck next to you.
One of the things I am most looking forward to is letting him really run, dogs are on a lead here most of the year. Beaches and hills away from sheep here we come.

Trexie caught a sparrow this morning and bought it in to show me. Dropped it on the floor and it promptly flew off.  We then spent a half hour trying to find it. It just vanished. It turned up perched behind my bath towel. Trying to catch the little **ugger or get it out the bathroom window. Animals do keep you on your toes! ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 02, 2017, 05:04:06 PM
We have an October lodger. A lovely (if he stops chasing the cat) 19 month old Lab guide dog. He arrived Friday afternoon.

(https://s1.postimg.org/1xxgq0f9pn/IMG_20170929_195421.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/1xxgq0f9pn/)

Don't judge the belly, I've been relatively stationary for 5 weeks!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on October 02, 2017, 07:45:59 PM
Mart, you look like you're down there for a reason, rather than the pup's convenience. Is recovery dragging?
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 02, 2017, 09:50:58 PM
I,m guessing, it must be some kind of a back exercise mat Stann.
        What ever it is Mart, get well soon. You are a gluten for punishment, Taking on another dog, knowing you are going to suffer another heartbreak,parting with it.
 but it is an admirable generous act my friend, one that I am sadly lacking in. I salute you.
                                                           Biff
                           


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 03, 2017, 07:38:28 AM
Mart, you look like you're down there for a reason, rather than the pup's convenience. Is recovery dragging?
Stan

Hiya Stan, things are going well, but yes it's a drag. Had my first physio appointment yesterday and Scout came with us, as we didn't want to leave him on his own for 2hrs yet, as he's still a bit anxious. He was perfect at the hospital, clearly a professional, and the staff loved him.

Physio impressed that I'm walking evenly and doing about an hours walk each day, so pelvis mending fine.
Also surprised that I can straighten my elbow, as I couldn't go to town on it because of the shoulder, but I've been doing loads of flexing at home. So whilst it's not 'fixed' it's also not jammed, so full movement will be possible once I'm allowed to be a bit rougher on the shoulder.
Shoulder - SOB - ok, I'll admit it, collar bone breaks are a total PITA (more so than pelvis even ;-) ). But I've got reasonable movement, and after x-rays next week, should get the go ahead to start moving it more. Little bit of trivia I discovered yesterday, they prefer too little movement of collar bones, to be made up for with physio afterwards, as they really don't want to have to do surgery there as there are so many nerves and blood vessels. So it seems policy is to err on the side of caution, and let the bones really fuse first before testing them out, which makes sense.

So, yes, you are right, mat on floor (replaced camp bed) is for me, as sitting is a bit sore, but perfect for doggie cuddles. He really seems to like laying next to me, or even squashing up and shoving his head in my armpit (brave dog). Be interesting to see if this is nervous bonding, or genuine personality as the month goes on.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 03, 2017, 07:43:41 AM
I,m guessing, it must be some kind of a back exercise mat Stann.
        What ever it is Mart, get well soon. You are a gluten for punishment, Taking on another dog, knowing you are going to suffer another heartbreak,parting with it.
 but it is an admirable generous act my friend, one that I am sadly lacking in. I salute you.
                                                           Biff                

Hiya Biff. Not sure I'm a gluten, as I get the ups of a month's worth of cuddles as payment. Also Fifi taught us that when they move on it is sad, but not as bad as we'd expected, the crucial thing being that you know they are going, whereas an unexpected loss would certainly break my heart.

Must think seriously now about getting our own dog. Lab or Labradoodle high on the list. Is it stupid that I've still got (in the back of my mind) a wish for an Irish Wolfhound!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 03, 2017, 08:38:33 AM
Great to hear that you are making progress Mart.
Go on go on go on get one of your own as well you know you want to!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 03, 2017, 07:38:57 PM
Hi Mart,
       I am not so sure if the Irish wolfhound would be a good idea. I knew a friend who kept a few of them and used to exercise them behind his new Mk 2 Cortina estate along Dollymount strand.
 He and his wife were going to breed them and took them to shows. I had my first Shepherd back then and I could see no way that you could ask them do do anything without a bowl of food in your right hand. They were not deaf but just could not care less until they spotted the bowl of grub..That was a long time ago and breeds do change but the few wolfhounds that I have seen since that time, were unfortunately,,no different. Some people read that book  "Marley and Me" and think it is beautiful, I read it and I feel sorry for everyone for getting involved with Marley.
  There is one very old breed that folks don,t Pay much attention to and is a first cousin of the Irish Wolfhound, In fact many years ago, the Scottish Deerhound was introduced into the few remaining Irish wolfhounds to improve the bloodlines, so they are closer than you would think. The deerhound is trainable and has an excellent reputation around this neck of the woods. They are very tough and healthy as a breed. They are a great family dog, very loyal. they are also very very deep, They know what you are thinking, They were bred as hunting dogs but they are much more than that. They are naturals on the lead. Even though they are a very large dog, they can curls up in a ball folding their legs to take up very little floor space., then they go to stand up and everything shoots out into place. Like transformers , anyone who ever knew one will know what I am talking about. They are gentle and kindly to their owners and quite reserved with strangers. If you wanted a dog with the strongest 6th sense,,it has to be the deerhound.                                                          And  their broken merle coat casts very few hairs.
                  Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 04, 2017, 07:02:25 AM
Thanks Biff, all ideas welcome. A sensible dog for us would be no bigger than say 30kG and about Scout's size, but I do like big Mastiffs and 'hounds'. Too much choice.

Scout and I fell asleep watching TV last night. I'd probably still be there now if he hadn't started chasing rabbits.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 04, 2017, 07:32:48 AM
Alternatively a border collie, reading an article about them someone asked how large a garden was required for a collie. The reply came WALES!  When Elliott arrived he had been used to sleeping outside and we were told he would not settle in a house. First night I slept downstairs with all three dogs in case of emergency. They had far more sleep then me taking it in turn to stick a wet nose in my face to check if all was well.  Night two back upstairs, 3am a huge cerfuffle from downstairs, descending rapidly two dogs asleep the cat the middle of the kitchen. No sign of Elliott, who emerged a moment later from hiding under a kitchen unit.
They maintain a dynamic relationship he follow her around until she hops him. He can be fast asleep in his bed and she will stand and  yell at him until he wakes up and follows her. tumble:

Great dog loves to walk, but brilliant in the house.
Good for rounding up chickens, sometimes when you didn't need them rounding!
If in doubt ask Stan exhappy:
We are not trying to convince you Mart, really!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on October 04, 2017, 08:30:08 AM
I would only agree if you have a lot of time time to exercise them. Tod & I are retired.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on October 29, 2017, 02:11:25 PM
I find Noel Fitzpatrick (supervet) to be such an inspiration as he drives himself on and on to fix pets. In one recent episode he had carried ot a near-impossible operation to fix a dog's nervous system to let it walk normally. We saw him creep up to the cage next morning, fully expecting failure, and the pup got up to greet him. Noel threw himself into the cage and sobbed, saying what a strain it is working all hours and through the night, with acute back pain, and wondering why he does it. This is why.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 29, 2017, 04:28:01 PM
Doesn't time fly.

We've had Scout for just over 4 weeks, and every day past the original request of 4 weeks is a bonus. We still curl up on the floor watching telly at night. Around 7-8pm he approaches, I get a big lick, then curls up with his back to me. Then around 9pm he gets up, another lick, then tucks down my side and buries his head under my shoulder/armpit - the signal that he's down for the night.

He's off tomorrow to the trainer's house for a few days to see how he is living with another dog. That suggests to me that a match has been made, and last checks are being carried out. I suspect our days with Scout are now numbered.

Turns out he's a Scottish doggie from Aberdeen. A scout group raised the money to name a dog, I think it's 5k, so a very well done to them. Seeing a photo of the large group with a very young Scout pup in the centre front brought home just how many people and how much work and generosity lies behind what to us is just a genuinely lovely pooch.


Good news, he's been such a dream to have that we're putting our name down for a withdrawn dog, so hopefully we'll have a forever dog to post about soon. We've also ticked must be good with cats, as I volunteer one morning a week at a local rescue centre and a lovely fluffy ginger and white emotional blackmailer won't leave me alone, so another moggie may be with us soon, so long as Flash (remember F4 - Flash the Ferocious Feral Feline) says it's OK.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 29, 2017, 05:13:53 PM
Great news Mart ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on October 30, 2017, 11:59:00 AM
So we've added numbers 9 and 10 to our pack, and this lad is my first dog. (his mum is the other addition)

Meet Frank

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Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 30, 2017, 01:17:50 PM
What a gorgeous fluffy face.

(Add your own punchline.)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 30, 2017, 01:57:09 PM
Oh Well done GB and Frank,
                    He looks the picture of our Diesel at 12 weeks, He will be a big kind hearted softee.
                                                     Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on October 30, 2017, 06:14:12 PM
Oh Well done GB and Frank,
                    He looks the picture of our Diesel at 12 weeks, He will be a big kind hearted softee.
                                                     Biff

Yes that's what i'm hoping for, kinda want him to have the look and sound of a fierce dog, but be a softy really (like our rotti)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on November 07, 2017, 01:44:02 PM
Had some bad (actually very, very good) news last week, that Scout had been successfully matched, and would be moving to his new home on Monday. So we made the best of the weekend, went for a play in the river, and it looked so much fun I went in too


(https://s1.postimg.org/1che99yo6z/IMG_20171104_110820.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/1che99yo6z/)

That tired us out a bit, so Scout and I briefly rested our eyes (for an hour or so apparently)


(https://s1.postimg.org/1ngzglmjrv/IMG_20171104_223512.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/1ngzglmjrv/)

Then yesterday arrived, Scout packed his bags, and got ready to go to work


(https://s1.postimg.org/7rlix7py3v/IMG_20171106_064650.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7rlix7py3v/)


I was doing OK till I had a clean up and stepped on 'honky pig', which gave out a noise that had been heard about 1,000 times per day up to then. [Edit - just to say, we didn't deprive him of his favourite toy, we packed a new one for him in his bag, as the original is getting a bit too close to becoming a three legged piggy.]

Still, he's been matched locally, so we've passed on our contact details and offered to board him if needed.

Good boy Scout, good boy.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on November 07, 2017, 01:53:51 PM
I take my hat off to you Mart, that's an amazing thing that you've done.  An emotional nightmare for those of us reading about it never mind you who actually did it.

Have an applaud, in fact better still, have a standing ovation!!!!!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on November 07, 2017, 04:44:14 PM
I would very much like to join the applause.  :genuflect :genuflect

Good on her Mart!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 07, 2017, 08:05:02 PM
Absolutely Mart,
        Very well done. :genuflect
                                    Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on November 10, 2017, 01:58:21 PM
Just when you need a cuddle, the shopkeeper magically appears!

Got a call last night from a local guide dog owner asking if we could look after her dog for a couple of days whilst she's away with family. Apparently the dog is a 'right cuddler'.

So next Thurs/Friday sorted!


Sadly. Actually that's not true, it's not at all sad, but the gorgeous tom cat that befriended me at the cat shelter, and which I planned to nab once Scout left, was given a loving home the week before. And in all fairness to the adopter, they saw him first, but had been waiting on a home check. Lots of posted piccies and he looks like he's landed on his feet (as a cat should). Oh well, there is another ex-feral and slight bruiser who is now working hard on my emotions ...... must resist ...... but resistance is futile!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on November 26, 2017, 12:11:01 PM
Finally got a dog. Though I have to say I was a little concerned about how it looks, but the lady at the Canine And Terrier Rescue Centre was very convincing, and said he was a rare Eurasian breed and will look more dog like when he grows up. I hope I haven't made another mistake like the time I bought a long nosed, long tailed, short legged African Terrier from the bloke down the pub wearing a zookeepers jacket.

(https://s7.postimg.org/wgc6jxe9z/IMG_20171126_112313.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wgc6jxe9z/)


(https://s7.postimg.org/ykwjl1ihj/IMG_20171126_112606.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ykwjl1ihj/)

OK, I admit it, he's the bruiser I mentioned in my last post. We're giving him a trial with the other boys, and if that goes well, we'll foster him and hopefully keep him. Photos are after only 30 mins of arriving, and he came to me for a fuss and a flip, so he's no fool.

But I haven't given up on a forever dog.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Philip R on November 26, 2017, 01:54:07 PM
I have looked at the attached photos.It does look a moggie not a doggy!

Philip R


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on November 26, 2017, 02:53:23 PM
It,s hard to tell when it is lying down like that,
  The tails and the ears are all in the same place. :onpatrol
                                         Biff
                 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: desperate on November 26, 2017, 05:20:50 PM
Yep he pulled a fast one on you there Mart, you've obviously been appointed as his "junior diddler" and you might be promoted soon to "lap in waiting".
has he let you feed him yet??

Desp


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on November 27, 2017, 08:27:43 AM
Well done Mart, one of the best breeds of Dog you're ever likely to get. 

We have four of the same breed at home and you can be sure that with a lot of patience and some careful training they soon have you doing everything they need.

I hope he makes the grade and fits in, looks like he's at home already :)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on December 01, 2017, 07:59:18 AM
Well done Mart, one of the best breeds of Dog you're ever likely to get. 

We have four of the same breed at home and you can be sure that with a lot of patience and some careful training they soon have you doing everything they need.

I hope he makes the grade and fits in, looks like he's at home already :)

Thanks, and of course he's staying, was there ever any doubt!

His name is Harley, prompting my brother-in-law to suggest I'm having a mid life crisis as that's what I'm supposed to go and get at my age.

This morning he's decided to help with my trawling of RE news:

(https://s7.postimg.org/ib0wpix5j/IMG_2494.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ib0wpix5j/)

Friends dog staying for a few days in a week, lovely 7 month Lab, so hopefully all cats will have reached a mutual disregard for each by then.

Then we really must get on with finding our forever dog.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on December 01, 2017, 08:43:39 AM
Harley looks as smug as he deserves to be for catching himself a good carer.  Keep us all posted on progres.

As for the mid life Harley thing, buy a Triumph instead. Better made, better value for money and best of all its British  :)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on December 02, 2017, 11:35:00 AM
The boy is heading for 14 weeks old and 18+ kg already

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Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 02, 2017, 02:56:24 PM
I brought Diesel home in a Renault Trafic,
                                       He was not very happy at the start. Old Natily was very good to him and raised him like her own. He used to grab her by the neck and drag her across the floor. She had infinite patience with him and then when he was about 8 months old or so, He changed into being ultra respectful towards her. We never ever seen her do anything wrong on him,,bare her teeth or snap him but something certainly happened and what ever it was,,did the trick and he grew up to be one of the most gentle and considerate dogs that we ever had.
 We think that we can plan the future but it always turns out that we have to be happy with what we get and what we get if often not quite what we planned for. Not worse,,not better  not quite.
                                                                                    Biff
                   


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on December 02, 2017, 06:57:23 PM
He doesn't like the driving, he can hold his bladder and his bowels very well now, but if i feed him even a couple of hours before driving he usually loses it during the journey.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 03, 2017, 10:08:17 AM
Generally speaking,
                      Young pups don,t like being up front in a vehicle, in the beginning. It is a bit like our first visit to the cinema, It seemed that anything could happen to us as the whole world rushed towards us and we cannot escape. Same with most pups. The dumb ones are happy enough but the more intelligent ones try and decipher what their eyes are telling them. With the results that they get stressed and frightened and that only ends in one way. When pups feel threatened,,they pee and when they get sick, the results are not pleasant. He might be a lousy traveler to begin with but I found that Quells worked for me in several near adult dogs. It just takes time and patience and a little vented box or cage in the rear of the van would get him tuned to the noise and smells of the journeys and then he can start the visual. There is another problem with the constant vehicle traveling. It is something that you don,t hear much about until your dog falls foul of it. The rear hips either left or right,,the one that he lies down on,
   Young dogs and even adult dogs can develop inflammation in the hips, especially if the breed is dysplasia prone. This happens because of the unnatural sideways movement which has a grinding effect between the young heavy bones which are not developed enough to resist. Even pups coming from parents with excellent hop scores can suffer. So while your pup is lying down and you are driving along, his young bones are being worked without the excercise that goes along with it to develop the muscles.
  Then there is the question of speed, Some dogs get really uncomfortable once you reach 70mph. They will actually complain and tell you to lay off the trottle. It is anything but funny to see a grown macho Shepard(A really good one) get confused and distressed like that. Then you realise that they process things differently and in their natural environment, their combined top speed and that of anything coming towards them never tops 70mph. So they are not set up to cope with the visuals of 70mph, Some dogs look down and away.
  This is not meant to lecture you and try and make myself out to be some kind of canine guru. Let me say that i have learned by experience and have paid the bills for the same experience. I have often guessed wrong but I sometines get it right. I would not put pressure on a dog to toilet train it so young,,especially a heavy breed,,they take longer so you just create the environment where he can chill out and relax. Everything is a game and he learns to trust and develop your confidence.. There is that lovely time where we seem to find that right wave length, it is priceless. Don,t worry, it will come.
                                                                      Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on December 03, 2017, 11:23:17 AM
thanks for that biff, luckily i never really approach 70mph! mostly 50.
He has an adaptil collar and i'm trying nutracalm capsules some time before driving.
I'm not pushing the toilet training, i give him opportunities :)

He rides in a cage in the fourtrak but with the van, the cab is the only option really.
Never really thought of the hip damage

Yes i concur on the thoughts about speed, have ofte considered this is why animals like horses travel better than one might expect. The speeds are not out of their area of evolutionary experience.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Nickel2 on December 03, 2017, 11:55:05 AM
It's not just dogs that get acclimatised to low speeds. After 1 week on a narrow-boat, even 30mph driving initially stretches my brain  :o  Approaching a roundabout and taking it all in takes a bit of doing. Poor young pups who cannot rationalise what's going on are bound to have trouble. After a few smelly journeys, our dog always traveled on the floor in the back of the car where she could not see out of the window. I suppose being low between the wheel-base also reduced pitching.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 03, 2017, 03:35:45 PM
Dogs are a lot like the lotto,
                       You are never quite sure what you have. When I was younger, i had a list of things that Shepherds had to be able to do, so that they could go on to better things. If they could not be trained to do these things without a song and dance,,then they failed. It was no big deal, they went their way and the owners made the best of what they had. I bought into a line of first generation German Shepherd messenger dogs and honestly,they were so easy to train that they spoiled me. They could fetch your keys,, your boots and outside if you were doing a bit of fencing, They could hop up onto the trailer,chuck the stabs off and grab one and deliver it to me. They loved that work.  They were fantastic all rounders, easy to work with and easy to get along with. When the last one died, I moved on. there was simply nothing available to touch them but at the same time even though they lived to be 13yrs,,their actual working life was 5/6 years at the best and then they slowed down and took it easy,,almost like they were saying "Case proven". I could jolly them up for old times sake and they would perform. Their thinking was 100% but they grew to like their comfort.
  I bought a commercial property in an area that had anti-social problems and had loads of break ins,,so invested in an Akita/Shepherd X. The Akita matures very quickly and has a name for being aggressive but also has extremely powerful eyes and do not faze easily. As a pup he was great gas and training was actually easy because the Mum was the Shepherd, even if he had the Dad,s personality,,the mum was smart to boot. Both owners were on the wrong side of the law back then. He was like a mini bear as a pup,,very very confident. I was afraid he might be a Hitler or a Napoleon but I need not have worried he was a charmer with the ladies and had this incredible nose for right and wrong. He could smell "Bad". The minute my Old Man met him, he said that he was the first dog that i ever had that he liked. The others used to give him a hard time ;D. (especially if he had drink taken).
    So his training was going well and we enjoyed ourselves. He was a fantastic swimmer and had deep webbed feet. He was deadly with car thieves and drunken thugs,,No barking no threatening , just this very quiet approachg and when he was challenged, the results were spectacular, He went everywhere with me.
 So it came to the point where he was supposed to pick up lengths of 3x2,,balance them and take them to me. He would lift them and balance them,,carry them 5 steps,,drop them and lift one end and drag it after him. This was not what I wanted. He was supposed to get to the part where he had to go through a doorway without putting down the wood. he was supposed to turn the length of timber vertical and walk through he gap. I had to give up. I was missing something serious. His teeth were immaculate, his neck was that powerful he could lift me off the ground by sticking his head under my backside and just lift straight up. So it was somethings else. I was given a book called "Winterdance" by Gary Paulson and the habits and characteristics of the lead musher,s dogs were really strong in my dog. Lead dogs had to be "Thin ice" dogs, They inherit this need to have their weight as light as possible and free to use their lightening reflexes to change direction. Carrying big thick lumps of wood about was not for them. It was like asking them to "Meaow" like a cat. He would fetch and carry small stuff and play ball to the cows come home. He was very close to my son. They got along like a house on fire. So even though I had to back off in that direction, I soon realised that he could do things that no other dog could do.I learned a lot from him. He was the only surviving pup in his litter of 8. His Dad ended up in an Akita rescue center. His last surviving sibling was shot by the police after attacking too many people. We were lucky we met. He was my Vet,s favourite and they had great rapport. He had a 6th sense unlike any dog I ever knew,,even when he was knocked out on the operating table getting stitched,,he would growl if the wrong person entered the room. That was creepy, even my vet was quite impressed with that. i still talk to him as i pass his grave in the evenings. He was a "One Off" he made sure of that. He was infertile. He spent the remaining few years of his life in the company of Natily,,who adored him. My wife and I still talk about him as if he is still here..It,s good.
                                                                                  Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on December 03, 2017, 04:38:36 PM
Lovely history Biff ;D
Wish that I had saved it for my breakfast coffee!!!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on December 03, 2017, 06:58:32 PM
Cracking stuff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 20, 2017, 11:59:37 AM
I have often wondered how the different gifts that enable different people to communicate with different species are allocated,
      Horses and dogs we can understand,but when it gets to bears, wolverines, honey badgers and meercats, it takes quite a special knowledge,combined with patience and the right chemistry to succeed.
Last night I was watching a program on some guy called Roger Horrocks who was feeding crocodiles by hand and it triggered something in my memory of a poor fisherman who rescued a crocodile from sure death, The fisherman had to hide the crocodile from the public officials because no one on Costa Rico was allowed to keep a crocodile without a licence , He had managed to get the licence and then his wife left him because he had started lying down and napping beside the crocodile. Gilberto told the neighbours that he could always get another wife but he would never be able to get another "Pocho" again.
When Pocho was strong enough, Gilberto too him to the river and released him back into the wild but next morning when he awoke his first wife was oin a state because Pocho was lying asleep on the front veranda. She upped and left shortly after. Gilberto was elated and realised that if the Crocodile returned under it,s own freewill, then it could be trained.,,
  At that point I assumed that Gilberto would eventually become part of Pocho,s diet and forgot all about it..So when Horrocks was faffing about in the river,,water up to his ankles and feeding the crocs,,my mind immediately went back to Gilberto and Pocho and remarked to Mrs Biff,," Now there is a guy who could show Roger a thing or two about crocodiles..So i googled " The Man Who Swam With Crocodiles" and to my astonishment ,, I discovered that Gilberto was still alive but Pocho had died a natural death but not before Roger Horrocks had gone to Costa Rico, Met up with Gilberto and Pocho and recorded some amazing footage.. Roger had eventually worked up the courage to get into the river and try and meet Pocho in his patch.. It was obvious to anyone watching that Pocho was the apple of Gilberto,s eye and vice versa. Pocho actually behaved very much like a well behaved shepherd or Rottie would behave, ( cannot believe that I am writing this)  and like any Rottie worth his salt,, he would be suspicious of strangers, especially ones pointing cameras at him..I realised very quickly that Pocho did not want Horrocks to come between him and Gilberto,, yet he demonstrated quite politely that getting friendly with roger was not an option,, those few moments of breath holding tension saw Pocho glide by Roger,s head just 6 inches away and turn and disappear out into the middle of the river. The part that fascinated me was the actions of Gilberto,s hands in controlling pocho,s positions. Pocho,s eye was up on top of his head and Gilberto had to hold his hands up above Pocho so that he could see the properly to communicate and obey. Pocho did not dawdle,, he obeyed immediately. If you can find the time or spare half an hour to watch the video (Its free) pay specialy attention to the way that Gilberto uses the hands,,the way that he shapes his palms making sure that pocho can see them. I found this absolutely amazing, totally astonishing because it is also the way that i would start off a young dog on hand signals..   "The Man Who Swims With Crocodiles" is well worth a watch, you will be richer for it,,It is really about the power of love, it simply cannot be about anything else. Of course Gilberto made a lot of money  but that came long after Pocho and he had established their special relationship. Gilberto is also a very normal guy but intelligent to boot. He has a good sense of humour and incredibly,,he had transferred this to Pocho.. When they meet up,, Pocho comes bearing down on Gilberto with his jaws wide open ans closes them at the last moment to get his greeting kiss on the nose..
  There has to be something in this relationship that we could transfer to international diplomacy. Patience, understanding and lots of love.
                                                Biff
   


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on December 21, 2017, 02:25:18 PM
Wow!
Fascinating video Biff great spot and thanks for sharing. ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on December 28, 2017, 04:41:34 PM
Some good news today. Remember Scout the guide dog we boarded for 5 weeks this Autumn. Well his GDO (guide dog owner) rang us today to say hello, that he was doing great, getting loads of cuddles, and also may need a home in June for 2 weeks (off on holiday) so would we ...... YES YES YES ... be able to ..... YES YES YES ...... have him ..... YES YES YES ...... guess what our answer was?

We've also had a couple of short visits from another local guide dog, so that's been lovely too. We also boarded our friends 7 month old Lab for a week, lovely dog, but boy them pups is hard work, he'll be great when he's two!

New cat Harley doing fine, he's been allowed out now, and was kind enough to come back just short of the 'don't panic Mr Mainwaring' time limit.

Neighbours are away for a week, so nearly time for me to pop over and put sausages out for the foxes, and mealworms out for the hedgehogs ....... it's almost like a suburban petting zoo?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on December 31, 2017, 12:01:11 PM
Day 33 of 49. Another walk along Ridge Lane with Mollie the collie at dawn. It was an accident waiting to happen. She cannot resist the farm quad-bike but this time she fell off with her hock caught in a hole. The result was a clean break above the hock on the rear left.
The vet screwed the 2 halves of the break together and fitted a glove over the wound to keep it clean. She had one of those annoying conical collars to keep her teeth away from the stitches and one week in the big cage, with toilet breaks. That week was hard on both of us. At day 8 it was collar and glove off. The vet said she was allowed a half hour of walking per day for 6 weeks, no running or jumping. And so to traffic-free Ridge Lane with its solar farm. I have to say that it was astonishing to be behind a dog walking perfectly so soon after the operation.
So here we are at day 33, stretching the walk to 1.5 miles before she goes back in her cage.
Stan





Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 31, 2017, 12:12:18 PM
You are doing well Stann,
                   The collie is a lively breed and normally it is impossible to get them to stay in the one spot for a second. So just 2 weeks to go.
         Hopefully all will knit well together.
                                       Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on December 31, 2017, 12:28:14 PM
She's 8 years old now Biff, which helps. Also we have not been perfect in that she does run a few dozen yards each time that she gets the chance, back at the farm.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on December 31, 2017, 12:42:36 PM
She's 8 years old now Biff, which helps. Also we have not been perfect in that she does run a few dozen yards each time that she gets the chance, back at the farm.
Stan

Slowing down a Collie, rather you than me. Hope it continues to go well.

We've got another visitor in 2 weeks time. Not a guide dog, but a Cocker Spaniel puppy belonging to a guide dog puppy walker. They are on hols for a week, so we offered to help out. Apparently he's very respectful and a bit scared too of cats, so he should get on fine here.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: camillitech on December 31, 2017, 05:51:58 PM
Not a happy dog,

(https://lifeattheendoftheroad.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/p1130183.jpg)

The 'wee dug' is confined to the cage for six months!!!!! Molly has a ligament that's become detached so has to rest, fat chance, so it's 'in the cage'. Poor wee dug.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on December 31, 2017, 08:54:12 PM
What a sad picture to end the year on Paul.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on January 01, 2018, 09:36:36 AM
Well done Stan
Not easy to keep them calm. Great news that Mollie is recovering well.
I get my nose in the face wake up call every morning.
We have Breton friends over for the New Year and my mate has just had his hip done trotting around like a good 'en. No cage for him.
Your poor wee dog Paul, is she allowed out for brief periods?
6 months is a long sentence.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: camillitech on January 01, 2018, 09:51:34 AM
Aye chaps, gonna have to do something, can't keep her locked up for that long, it's a sin.

Cheers, Paul


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on January 01, 2018, 11:59:14 AM
Nice to know that Elliot still loves you Tod. ;D
This article describes a major advance in the treatment of shattered bones although I'm pretty sure that I saw the Supervet using it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-40366645
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on January 01, 2018, 05:57:20 PM
Is it love Stan?
There is no peace till I get my bum into gear.

Do you chaps have pet insurance?

Seems to be everywhere now if so any thoughts?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on January 02, 2018, 12:50:23 AM
Aye Tod.
         I was with Cornhill Insurance for years.
  The staff were excellent. It was called Pet Plan back then.
                 Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on January 06, 2018, 06:20:22 PM
We have the bull dog and the raven insured. Because hhe bull dog will be prone to all sorts (and has already had surgery) and the Raven is outside my OH's technical scope. The rest my OH fixes or we just stump up the cash for big referral bills when they occur (probably 5-6k in the last 3 years).

With 10 dogs, 10 cats and the bird it would be a bit much to insure them all (given we have a vet in the house)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on January 06, 2018, 07:00:26 PM
Update on the boy, now over 26kg at just under 5 months old

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Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on January 07, 2018, 01:20:33 AM
Hi GB,. 
       Diesel grew just like that.i was advised to cut back on the grub and the exercise until his bones hardened up. 2 of his siblings incurred big vetinary fees because their bones began to give serious trouble. It never bothered him even when he was weighing in @ 74kg+ but I did cut back on the car/van travel because I already found out that it was bad for the growing bones.
 Your guy looks exactly like Diesel who was a surprisingly graceful mover and full of beans. He will be 8 in March, the years just fly. I hope your lad does well. I find that if you can take them up , carefully into the 18 months area trouble free then you will be trouble free from then on. It is not quite as straight forward as we think.., Good luck.
         Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on January 07, 2018, 08:42:34 AM
He is a handsome lad GB.
Does he still imagine that he is a small pup. Climbing onto your lap?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on January 07, 2018, 11:25:41 AM
He does tend to creep along until his head and paws are on my leg like you see there.
As him and his mum are kennelled there's not really a lot of lap crawling in the house :)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on January 18, 2018, 03:32:35 PM
Sadly. Actually that's not true, it's not at all sad, but the gorgeous tom cat that befriended me at the cat shelter, and which I planned to nab once Scout left, was given a loving home the week before. And in all fairness to the adopter, they saw him first, but had been waiting on a home check. Lots of posted piccies and he looks like he's landed on his feet (as a cat should). Oh well, there is another ex-feral and slight bruiser who is now working hard on my emotions ...... must resist ...... but resistance is futile!

The cat I mention above, fluffy ginger and white called OJ is now famous, as is my left arm!

Animal lover rescues more than 600 animals including dogs, rabbits and bearded dragons in just 10 months (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/animal-lover-rescues-more-600-14169191)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 07, 2018, 05:28:29 PM
Schrodinger's Dog?

Got a German Shepherd arriving tomorrow ...... ish!

Got a call from Guide Dogs asking if we could look after a dog (young male in training) for two long weekends (Thurs-Mon), so of course said yes yes yes. But I deliberately didn't ask what type it was. So, theoretically, it's a GSD until I open the front door and find out that it isn't ...... right?  wackoold

Nothing but rain forecast for tomorrow, but hopefully some sunny walks on Friday.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on February 07, 2018, 07:11:53 PM
6 months and still no ears....

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Took the van seats out to accommodate him, will refit a LHD driver seat for the impending baby seat....

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Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on February 07, 2018, 08:15:11 PM
H,,,mmmmmm GB,
                    That looks like a Czech bloodline Shepherd, ?  I see Diesel a lot in your pup, In fact, I collected him in my Trafic and also took out the front seat for a while.
    We worry about Diesel. He is a fantastic mover like your dog will be but there are certain disadvantages in powerful deep chested dogs. When they are young and well kept with regular exercises ,they can keep their tummy muscles taunt and prevent their stomachs from flipping over, Oh It can still happen in a young dog but the likelyhood increases with age, The tummy muscles lose their tension with age and then it can happen. It is partially hereditary but also deep chested breeds are prone. Diesel,s chest was 42" 2 years ago and now that he is 8 years old in March we are watching him like a hawk. Cutting his nails is a major operation, We had a terrible time trying to find a nail cutter but we did fine one where you push the nail through a hole and a blade slides up and slices it off.
    His ears will stick like that, Years ago, I bought a Shepheard in Merseyside and one of his ears refused to straighten out before 6 months. I was advised to line them with cardboard and the dog was quite agreeable but it was a waste of time. He had the floppy tip to his ear for the rest of his life.
                                                              Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on February 07, 2018, 08:32:40 PM
Well spotted, his mum at least has Romanian papers.
Yes we worry about GDV a lot in this household, we have 5 others of breeds that are prone (in fact one has suffered but i noticed early enough for us to get into the practice for the OH and a colleague to sort him in time)

Ha ha, not quite the guard dog look but never mind if that proves to be true, he's such a lovely dog. And his mum has really come around massively. When she arrived she would cower and circle, hated men and was really hard work. Now, even just 5 months later, she is a different dog. The pair of them are out on the farm with me whenever i'm not moving vehicles about and she has really warmed to me and even loves affection and hugs from me. I take them both to training and they are both doing extremely well. She's very rewarding because she's more focused and attentive to me as she's an adult and now she's not fearful of every situation she really excels.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 08, 2018, 07:39:27 AM
Those dogs are gorgeous!


Cat + tablet trick for anyone interested. Vet suggested a trick and it works well. Crush tablet to powder then mix in something sticky such as furball paste (we've been using a drop of honey) only takes a small amount, then grab cat, smear paste on teeth, gums, face .... whatever's easiest, then retire to dress wounds.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on February 08, 2018, 08:37:02 AM
Trexie cat is now 14.
It does not get easier.
'Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.

And say 'These wounds I had on Trexie's worming day' facepalm


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on February 08, 2018, 10:23:49 AM
You can buy long sleeved gloves for the job,!
                              You can also buy a chain mail glove, stir:. Once I went to visit a dog breeder who looked after a pack of hunting hounds. As he walked down the rows of kennels, he took this right hand glove off a hook and put it on. It was chain mail. I thought maybe the dogs were that bad and asked him which ones were the nasty ones. He started laughing and said the dogs were fine. It was the rats that were the problem. He stored their meat in a large barrel in a cooler house and the rats could dig through and hide among the joints. He mistakenly assumed a few times that the Rats were unable to get in and suffered a few bites before he bought the chain mail glove. "So now" he says, "I can grab the rat who grabs me" :o :o
                                                      Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 09, 2018, 07:24:53 AM
It appears that a lack of understanding of quantum theory combined with wishful thinking is not a reliable way to get a GSD. However, a huge Labrador is just as good, especially one that can learn synchronized yawning within minutes.


(https://s13.postimg.org/fi9jghmir/IMG_20180208_212611.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fi9jghmir/)


(https://s13.postimg.org/u1gohxair/IMG_20180208_212646.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/u1gohxair/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on February 09, 2018, 08:51:25 AM
Wonderful!
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on February 09, 2018, 02:39:33 PM
Beast and man in perfect harmony!!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on February 09, 2018, 08:53:37 PM
Ha ha, brilliant


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Westie on February 09, 2018, 09:24:20 PM
Pawnography on the forum  ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 10, 2018, 07:32:25 AM
Pawnography on the forum  ;D

Yawnography?

What a big baby he is. He cries when we put him to bed, he cries in the morning for us to go down and cuddle him, and he's crying now because Wifey's gone back to bed and I'm pottering on the computer.

Such a sweetie.

Serious question, can dogs hurt their tail from wagging too hard? He's got a very solid tail and he puts his whole bum into it, it really hurts if you are next to him, and the noise from walls, doors, radiators etc is incredible. If I kneel down to fuss him, and he's alongside me with us both facing forward, then the wags on my back are actually too painful to tolerate, it's a proper 'beating'.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on February 10, 2018, 08:37:52 AM
Hi M,
       Tails are very strong. I think he is asking for something. It would be no harm to take note of the times of day that he gets most excited.
  I would try and keep him calm and not let him get too excited because he will be forced to walk about looking for a place to lift his leg against.
 Every time a dog gets as excited as that, his waterworks need to be relieved., they can only hold on so long but he will tell you,
  If you have a tree out the back garden,, take him out and watch how far up the tree he lifts his leg and aims. He is making a statement regarding power and ownership.
  You do get very caring and emotional dogs, It,s a tough life being loved like that. ;D
                                Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 10, 2018, 11:13:04 AM
He's just had huge fuss off a guy with a lovely South African accent in B&Q.

Hi, Biff, the tail is pretty much constant, whether cuddling him, playing with him, or he's offering various toys to the cats, he's just a super happy gentle giant of a Lab. I'm interested to see if he calms down a bit over the next few days, as he may be trying to impress his 'new pack' by being extra friendly and submissive.

These dogs are obviously breed for their ability to live in the moment and be re-homed / moved about, but I'm sure they are all a bit unsure underneath, at first.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 12, 2018, 12:28:57 PM
Party time!!!!!!  exhappy: exhappy: exhappy: exhappy:

Richard's (yes that's the dog's name) trainer is happy to pick him up on Mondays for 4 days training, then drop him back on Thursday, so we can keep him for the whole basic training period (around 10 weeks). Wifey and I are happy, the cats are less pleased.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on March 19, 2018, 07:27:12 PM
Growing well, little woodland walk while the truck had it's mot

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Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on March 19, 2018, 08:15:56 PM
Nice photo GB.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on March 19, 2018, 09:25:08 PM
He is a lovely Dog GB,
                   Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on March 20, 2018, 07:17:08 AM
They grow up so quickly!!! ;D
Great photo GB


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on March 20, 2018, 08:36:15 AM
Thanks guys. Continue to be extremely lucky with this boy and his mum is turning into a cracking dog too, after a bad start in life.
He's now heavier and taller than she is and only 7 or so months old


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on March 22, 2018, 02:14:47 PM
Birthday boy and his gal ,
        
(https://s18.postimg.org/62cjjoezp/003.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/62cjjoezp/),
    We have a nice Lamb dinner with stewed nuts for them this evening, He is now officially an old timer.
                                          Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on March 22, 2018, 03:31:42 PM
Happy birthday! ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on March 24, 2018, 05:21:35 PM
So ....... this happened!

(https://s14.postimg.org/xe9wo9dfh/IMG_20180320_130157.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xe9wo9dfh/)

Helping out Monday morning at the cat rescue centre. Fussed a new cat an old feral Queen who'd been caught the night before. Then moved her to a crate for a trip to the vet's to be checked out as she seemed unwell (she was). She was in pain and bit my finger. No probs, didn't really hurt, nor bother me. there are gauntlets available but I didn't want to scare her even more.

Monday afternoon finger was swollen, then hand got painful, then armpit (yep!). Went to A&E at 9pm, saw a great nurse at midnight, described pain up my arm, front and back, but no marks. She said that was probably lymph tracking and started anti-biotics immediately. Saw the doctor at 4am (it was crazy busy), and found I had red lines up my arms (there were two more on the top of the forearm.

Came close to surgery, they wanted to go the whole 'game of thrones' on me and slice my finger all the way up to clean it, but that got downgraded to a plaster cast and rest and arm in the air because I could just about wiggle the joints slightly and wasn't in agony.

Wednesday morning, and near to passing out on my feet, a bed became available, hooray. So there I was on a ward with lots of seriously ill folk, and doppy Mart with a boo boo on his finger.

Got home Thursday afternoon, and cast off Friday, plus a lot of sleeping.

I think I got taught a valuable lesson about being so blasie about cat scratches and bites. It's not the damage they do, but the time bombs they might leave behind.

On more fun, here's an action pic of Richard catching snow balls. He's in advanced training and being matched at the moment, so he should be placed in about a month, probably with someone with some sight as he's 'not the most focused of guide dogs'. This one is gonna hurt like hell when he leaves ....... so much for thinking it would get easier.


(https://s14.postimg.org/5hzmk5uv1/IMG_20180303_112616.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5hzmk5uv1/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on March 24, 2018, 08:36:59 PM
Wow Mart.
           But these things happen.plenty of good rest and after care..
            Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on March 26, 2018, 02:27:38 PM
Wow Mart.
           But these things happen.plenty of good rest and after care..
            Biff

Thanks Biff, my attitude has always been 's**t happens', but I think I have to take the blame on this one for my blasie approach to minor cat injuries. Serious infection is probably a numbers game and I've been playing too much. First day back at the center today and there's a new sign up advising folk to wear gloves whenever unsure, or with hissy cats - the sign goes on to suggest asking Martyn about A&E if in doubt!  :-[

I hope it's also good advice for all on here who are as daft as me, to be extra careful and seek medical care if things go bad fast (within hours) and if any 'tracking' appears.

On a lighter note, I just got back from the Trauma clinic as I had to pop back for a check up and official discharge. I cycled there and back, my first cycle since they discharged me last August after my ickle bike accident. Can't say it was all that enjoyable, I may stick to the exercise bike. Not sure if Wifey will be happy about my adventure, I suspect not.


Big smiles this morning - small scared cat at the rescue center actually came for a big cuddle today, it's been hiding at the back of its crate for a month, and tolerating my fuss with a look of terror, but I finally wore it down. It's so nice to know it isn't 'too' upset. Normally those that are really upset get fostered out to the volunteers till forever homes can be found, but it's kitten season and spare homes are scarce.

Lastly, Richard is almost certainly leaving us on the 17th of April (he's off at training now till Thurs), he's a total heart breaker, gonna be tough  :'(


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on March 26, 2018, 05:07:27 PM
Glad to hear that you are mended after the latest adventure.
You don't realise the risk until it's too late.
Good advice though much appreciated sorry you had to suffer to give it ;D


Stumbled upon this the other day, have been steering clear for obvious reasons!!!!

http://www.lizziesbarn.co.uk/homes-needed/

Should you ever wander westwards the kettle is always on. ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: ceisra on March 26, 2018, 09:26:01 PM
I also have the scars that prove cats can be nasty little animals.
My son and his girlfriend/partner acquired a little bundle of fur 3 years ago, as they lived round the corner from me I interacted with him nearly every day.
I soon realised he was only one step from feral and we had a few run ins with just a few scratches and bites as he grew up.
Then recently I picked him up to carry him in and found out the hard way what an evil little beast he can be. He hissed at me and before I could drop him he sank his fangs into my right hand thumb knuckle, then flicked his head round and did the same to the left hand.
My wife took me to our doctors and the receptionists first statement was you will have to go to A&E.
My reply was the sign in the waiting room was A&E is for life threatening injury's only and so I was seen by a senior nurse who cleaned me up and dressed the wounds with a base dressing of Manuka honey and I left with a dose of antibiotics.
Next day my hands and arms had swelled up and my thumbs would not move, when pressure was applied to try and move them it was agony.
It took a week for the swelling to go down and a month before I got full use of the thumbs as it turned out his fangs had touched the tendons on each hand.
The cat and its owners are currently living in our house while their new one is built, I am much more cautious of him and we have had a few run ins since.
Much to every ones amazement I still don't blame him as he was only doing what he could to tell me he did not want to go into the house and if you watch the Super Vet that showed even mild mannered cats can inflict serious injuries.

Roger   


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Westie on March 26, 2018, 09:29:16 PM
Bad luck Mart, My son is an A&E doctor, he's told us cat bites are serious, their sharp long front teeth are usually covered in nasty bacteria, the bite creates a deep puncture wound which can't be disinfected, end result is usually an infection, standard procedure for cat bites for A&E staff is to start intravenous antibiotics asap (as you found out) facepalm




Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on March 26, 2018, 11:08:43 PM
It has been a years or so since I last saw Mrs Hubs,
                                                       She was a large black cat who lived on the site before i came here. this was her abode, Her little oasis in the bog. She was totally wild and i mean wild. They few times that i did try and get friendly with her were met with the most malingering evil looks. It was as if she could read my mind. She would dump her kittens on me and i would try and look after them. On one occasion Xena and 4 legged Biff adopted a small tortoise shell colored one who she left struggling in the rain and was near death before i picked it up and put it in my anorak pocket. In the morning,I would set off with the hounds and I would walk about with this very small feeble kitten in my large anorak pocket. I gave Mrs Hubs plenty of chances to come back and claim her but Hubs had another litter on the way.
 I would work in the garden and Xena and Biff would look after this Kitten. Then the call of the wild interfered in our very comfortable little group..She mated before we knew what happened and I don,t think that she had any idea of what was going on. I remember 4 legged Biff and Xena were quite annoyed but the wild toms around here are dangerous..Tinky had her kittens and they thrived. She grew back closer to Xena and Biff and her kittens followed suit.,.I managed to trap Mrs Hubs and a lady came around and took her away to get her neutered. I warned her about Hubs, but this was a cat expert..She may have been laid back in handling Mrs Hubs in her cage on collection but when she arrived back,,She asked me to lift the cage out of the van for her. So as before, I threw a very heavy blanket over the lot and wore large heavy gloves. I remember when I trapped her, She was raging mad,absolutely ferocious not in the slightest bit afraid but would without doubt do a dam,d fine job on me if she got out of the cage. I threw the big heavy blanket over the cage and lifted it up,, A long black arm reached out under the blanket and her claw ripped across my builders boots,,right up to the ankle protectors. I have been sized up and attacked by pitbulls more than once and it did not bother me that much,,But that Mrs Hubs could move like lightening and confuse you as to what direction she was actually coming from. She was some kind of a crazy dervish when she got going. She creeped me out quite a few times. On one occasion i was working down a deep drain,,some 8 to 10ft deep,,One side was straight up and the other side had a grassy bank about 5 ft up. I stopped for tea from my flask and after a break about 10 minutes,,went back down and got to work. this time I stood up to stretch my back and wipe away the sweat and there was Hubs,,curled up in a ball pretending to be asleep about 18" from my head. I had the spade in my hand but I backed away down the drain, She just stretched in the suns rays, If you did not know better,, you would swear that she was in a friendly mood but I knew her well and waited till she cleared off. Feral cats are very dangerous animals. They are not submissive at all and will rip a lump out of you if you displease them, Tinky was a sweet soul and nothing like her mother..After her kittens went to good homes, She fell into depression. Biff was quite concerned about her but neither he nor Xena could help her. Then one morning i woke up and from our gable window, I saw her lifeless body lying on the white line on the middle of the road at the top of our driveway. Very public, you could not miss it. She had been run over. I believe that the company of the other cats who stopped here from time to time was not to her liking. She was just too caring and loving. Perhaps that is why Hubs dumped her in the beginning. We have portraits on our wall of her playing with Xena and Biff in the rear yard. She would climb all over them as they lay on their backs pretending to fight back. There was surprising tenderness between the three of them. The Dogs were in their senior years and she was their kid of perhaps grandchild. She gave them a purpose.
   It seems to me that the word feral means a lot more than undomesticated,,The mindset is different. That is the shocking thing. There must be a difference in the genes as well, even though they breed with the local domestic cats. Hubs never forgave me for sending her away to get neutered. She actually left the area and would only return every few months to check things over.
A good friend of mine once told me that she was more than likely a witch,, Oh I know what you are thinking but then again, I am not given to pissoggs and superstition but I could well believe she was a witch. If she can came at you,,like she came at me,,You would believe it too.
                                                    Biff
   
 


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on March 27, 2018, 09:11:05 AM
Wow Roger, I got off super light compared to you. The joint agony bit makes sense, it was the fact I could just wiggle my index finger a mm or so that saved me having surgery to flush it out. The doc pressed on each knuckle and I said it's sore but nothing special - he explained that if it was really bad i'd be clinging to the ceiling, as per your agony comment. just took last antibiotic and I assume I'm mostly healed as the whole finger is itching like mad today ......... I genuinely have 'an itchy trigger finger!'

Wifey got home yesterday and I told her about my success wearing down the scared black cat, and she had a suspicious smile on her face. She said she already knew, and so did many others?

Turns out my friend and neighbour video'd me (I thought she just took a pic), and it had been posted on the center's facebook site. (I'm not on FB).

Anyone interested can see it on here ARC - Anna's Rescue Center (https://www.facebook.com/annasrescue/) by this point it had already knocked my glasses clean off.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on March 27, 2018, 09:22:09 AM

   It seems to me that the word feral means a lot more than undomesticated,,The mindset is different. That is the shocking thing. There must be a difference in the genes as well, even though they breed with the local domestic cats. Hubs never forgave me for sending her away to get neutered. She actually left the area and would only return every few months to check things over.

      Biff

Totally agree, I think there's a scale somewhere from outdoor cat, to undomesticated, to feral, to wild.

And size wise, whilst a hissy female shouldn't be underestimated, a big male can do a hell of a lot of damage in a surprisingly short amount of time, but at the same time, a big male (like our Flash) can be incredibly loving once befriended and neutered (after a month or so when the chemicals go down, and the cheeks get smaller), as they appreciate the easier life in a house, than the very hard day to day existence outside, when they will probably last 8yrs or less.

The center sets traps for ferals, and hopefully they can be re-homed if they can be befriended, but if not at least they are neutered before release, but boy oh boy there are a lot of feral cats.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on April 17, 2018, 07:51:23 AM
Anyone remember me posting this pic years ago of my neighbours feral cat with his giant head in a dog bowl (that's not a cat bowl, it's about ten inches across).

(https://s14.postimg.cc/b7x1n5grx/IMG_1806.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b7x1n5grx/)


...... well ...... he's gotten a bit aggressive towards their new young cats. The lady-of-the house is my volunteer partner for cleaning out the rescue center two mornings a week, and has adopted some rescues.

I assume Chunk is defending his patch as he needs any spare food, but he's too big and scary for their small cats. So we put a trap out last week, and finally on Sunday his luck ran out. So we've moved him into our dog crate in their garage, and he's off to the vets today for a check. I'm certain he'll be FIV, so that'll make re-homing a bit trickier, but the good news is that he let me stroke his head (with gloves on), and then fuss his head and back (without gloves, and A&E on speed dial). He seems frightened and submissive, but not wild.

He's a big, big boy, and I'll try to get some better pics today. Fingers crossed (whilst they are still attached to my hand) that after neutering and some re-hab, he'll accept some human attention, and may be re-homeable where he will enjoy a much easier life.

Now, where did I leave that whip and chair?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on April 17, 2018, 08:08:28 AM
Oh wow, Chunk really is an impressive cat isn't he.  I do hope you get him sorted and re-homed. 

We have a wonderfully friendly big old boy who at his peak was 14lbs with not an ounce of fat on him and he was neutered as a kitten, I've often wondered how big a cat he'd have made if he'd been allowed to keep his tackle.....


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on April 17, 2018, 11:25:55 AM
Wow he is a chunky chap. Did you watch that tv prog about the adopted black panther at the big cat sanctuary on Kent? Good luck Mart hope you keep your fingers attached to your hand. We had ferral cats in France name of Hiss and Spit. They were as wild as anything we used to put out food for them but they would not let us approach. Hiss had kittens which she hid obviously food was short and she brought them out to show us. It was like a switch flipped and she suddenly decided to trust us, pick her up and look after the kittens. Over time we got her and the little ones 'done'  and from supplementary feeding they were fed daily (still living outside) and should you sit outside you would find yourself wearing cats!  ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on April 18, 2018, 07:37:06 AM
Poor ickle Chunky Munky.

He's so sad in his crate. But he hasn't shut down, he's eating all and any food left for him.

Vet's can't fit him in for a check up and 'snip' till Friday, so my neighbours and I are just feeding him in lots of little sessions following a brief chat and head touch, to win him over.

I've been scratching his chin, and fussing him almost (yep, almost!) down to his tail, and whilst he is submissive I'm still a bit nervous of him.

Managed some photos, but hard to take a good pic, whilst fussing him, and trying to keep the crate door escape route plugged with my head and shoulders, but here he is:


(https://s14.postimg.cc/hhk1lbrjx/IMG_2508.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hhk1lbrjx/)

Got to work hard to socialise him now as aggressive ferals that can't be re-homed are dealt with on a catch - neuter - release basis, but aggressive + FIV cats ..... unfortunately ...... can't be. So lots of attention, even if he hates it at the moment, and fingers crossed that blood tests on Friday are OK.



Back to our home - Richard was supposed to be placed yesterday with his match for final training, so this week should be super sad, but he has a slight eye problem that's not uncommon with 'saggy faced' dogs like gun dogs, where his eyelid can go inside out whilst sleeping and irritate the eye all night. So he has to have some minor cosmetic surgery, and so we are stuck with him for a few extra weeks ..... hooray (about him staying, not the eye problem).


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on April 18, 2018, 08:05:34 AM
Taking a photo of a black cat is hard enough, with your added challenges you did well to get such a good shot of him :)

Good luck with Richard's cosmetic surgery, such a shame that he has to stay with you a little longer  ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on April 23, 2018, 12:43:44 PM
So, quick update on Chunk. He's now at the rescue center, been neutered, and awaiting blood test results. He was difficult to transfer into a cat box, he tried to hide, then finally fought back out of terror when I picked him up. Managed to put a few holes in me, right through leather gauntlets.

I've been popping down to see him twice a day to fuss him (torture him, as he's so scared) and try to get him used to people. Another volunteer who appears to love and specialise in ferals has said she will take him on in her feral room at home and re-hab him. If he's FIV he can't be released, or go to a home with other cats, or be allowed out, so it all depends on him now and whether he can become a house cat.  :crossed

There are two old campaigners back at the center that I haven't met before but was told I would love, and I certainly do. They are both ex-ferals, and also FIV, and had been living happily for nearly a year in a house, but the lady is moving and can't keep pets, so they are back and looking for a house they can be kept in.

I thought Chunk was big, and our old cat Hobbes (aka fat ginger) who weighed 16lbs, but this teddy bear faced bundle of joy is far far bigger, and also far far fatter, I can only guess at somewher in the low to mid 20lbs.


(https://s14.postimg.cc/qzix6bzm5/IMG_2517.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qzix6bzm5/)

(https://s14.postimg.cc/ct36aybul/IMG_2522.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ct36aybul/)


And at home Richard the guidedog (wanna be) has clarified who is in charge out of him and Flash.


(https://s14.postimg.cc/sekhuydj1/IMG_2509.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/sekhuydj1/)


Richard went off today for some fun and games with the trainer, then tomorrow he's having some cosmetic surgery on his slightly too baggy eyelids which occasionally fold in when he's sleeping and irritate the eyeball, so he's having a slight eyelid tuck, Back tomorrow evening, and then we get to keep him for an extra week or two, after which he leaves to be trained in house with his guide dog owner.  :'(


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on May 05, 2018, 09:31:50 AM
When Harry met Sally.

So, we still have Richard as he had to have his bottom eyelids shortened as they kept going inside out at night, and giving him sore eyes. I've never heard of this before, but apparently it's not uncommon in baggy faced dogs, such as Mastiffs, Shar Peis and gun dogs. So we got to keep him for a few more weeks, and he might be going end of next week(ish).

In the meantime we'd arranged to meet Scout's GDO (guide dog owner) as we are boarding him for 2 weeks in June whilst she's on holiday. Scout was the dog we had in Oct/Nov for 5 weeks and loved to bits.

So we met up with Scout and his GDO, and also another GDO with a massive curly coated Retriever called Alfie. Instant friends.

Here are the three of them, Scout leading with Richard and Alfie in hot pursuit:

(https://s14.postimg.cc/wby7kktml/IMG_20180504_142920.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wby7kktml/)

and here are Richard and Scout, with Richard doing his usual stick trick to get dogs to chase him:

(https://s14.postimg.cc/mreky1c3x/IMG_20180504_163719.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/mreky1c3x/)


Quick update on Chunk the feral bruiser. I've been visiting him every day for a fuss, but he's still terrified of human touch. His blood tests show he's not FIV, so worse case he can be released on a farm, where he will live outside and get food but doesn't have to interact more than that with humans. But yesterday he went off to the lady who specialises in making friends with ferals, so fingers crossed he'll learn to appreciate human contact and a nice safe house to live in.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on May 05, 2018, 12:25:33 PM
Great pictures Mart. i love to see them playing.
A regular joy of 'old boys early morning dog walk' is watching our various muts play thugs with each other on the beach
Any further thoughts on getting a full time dog? :angel:

Good luck with Chuck.  We had a feral called Spit who as the name implies her nature. Happy to eat the food put out but no more. Then one day I was sitting outside and she just came and plonked herself on my lap.  After that was as friendly as you like. Nout so queer !!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on May 05, 2018, 07:48:35 PM
Latest pack shot, now including a baby
From left to right:
Charley (and Robin), Betty, Frank, Norman, Hari, Alan, Maddie, Joanie, Rodney, Nessa, Tinks

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ItvhCoQ_uIkEzxXW5EpGYe_N75fl-ZPMXdN0S4rsvyiNNgV2bGuUPd4RgX6Wl7us3QKQL4EL1qsyommCOlgM5-AHuPPn7p4fP1epzN_3v4O-xVe8_HQyh2zkdZ_f5vhzsdFRSeciwaz230Wftt1yqYZwlo3a1D5cbVaZrOB_IVKo_t02arTkQOVgPG-6xbyCeQ46QuUQRRf-WGMg4n_Oo2Pl_REw9yyRIaPs3zkSDlTyq4D56Mrv1VNRiFZqwicQYa1uzRzNB-OOnyEIl4trry7J2Wq5Q3JelUi9Hv-xGK78kjLYP4DshQm91H0jYkXbqZt0WrfkNP5dp251G8DsW2sX9HfsJLyn0RWA-JVcqHHYHN4zwoNGhlm2ZyW-ihTciMhGrK0CgBePbQWEvEif2uPfCTf-nSgLxA5lQcs20BjpnNUg6l2I42ATgnWuWQ4vc27b3ojnjaDq71Nf-hkd00MAnDj9dOEh-6t7JyG-oUEo6xtP_3dGWQ4K88yyqlOuPmjsB5qC-SeKpddkbq27KImZQ6-9uyZL7lxufP8Su5uAOwNVE3n02lH67NxN2thGh3mhlkcMP-fLeAyw2mAKz1A58AWZkStLyRYb2Gs3yf1THU-FpwHWX0tsaktqEbCVJcClI_lWJnlcTx6sU1hbfXbO3Wiu1H8x4A=w944-h530-no?.jpg)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 05, 2018, 07:59:57 PM
Good Lord GB,,What a handfull !!,,
                                  They all look happy and relaxed. You both have talent with dogs, Frank,s ear is still down and will probably stay that way but that is nothing. I once bought a pedigree Shepherd who had a floppy ear and the breeder told me to line it with cardboard and tape it up. It was a waste of time but it might work with his ear. Vossies ear would not rise at all, your dog,s is half up and you never know, it might work. Voss was a brilliant dog but died of a heart attack when he was 8 years old..
                                                                        Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on May 05, 2018, 09:47:21 PM
 The ear has spent some time up but the last week or so stayed down. We shall see, it certainly softens his image but perfectly matches he's temperament (massive softy).

Charley is the whizz but i am definitely getting there now I've had to train the two shepherds myself. They still both need work for different reasons, betty is focused and attentive but nervy and has confidence problems because of her start in life, Frank is a blank slate and has picked things up very well and has no confidence issues but is easily distracted still, given his age. Very rewarding though and great fun on the farm, they are kennelled on the yard and are out with me unlike the rest.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on May 06, 2018, 07:15:42 AM
Love it GB, love it. And you got em all to pose for the pic too, well beyond my skills.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on May 06, 2018, 08:43:02 AM
 Once they all know their sit and wait commands it's not too bad. Betty had to be put on a lead as she would wander immediately, don't get me wrong she's great at it in isolation but with any other dogs she gets nervy.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 06, 2018, 11:44:17 AM
Dog leads,
           Dog leads are like dogs , they come in all shapes and sizes. There is quite a lot of confusion in the terminology but first we will deal with the long leads. Long leads can come in various lengths from 40ft down to 10ft. The 40fter is used to calm down excited collies and the 10fter is used to control normal breeds. It is looped in the one hand and fed out between the index and the thumb with the other hand ready to apply the brake as needed.
When buying a lead like this, you need to look at the clip and the spring mechanism and check to see is it strong enough for the job. Very often there is just a silly little alloy rivet between you and your dog breaking free. Then you need to buy a lead that you can see in the dark and be able to prevent it snagging on objects. With big powerful dogs that you are getting used to, A combination of a choke chain and a haltie carefully applied is the best way forward. The choke chain or check chain should have big links, so that the dog is aware of them clicking as it tightens and he can ease the pull before he feel the pressure. Once the dog is happy with the choke chain and used to it, It can be replaced with a heavy duty combination of nylon and chain,,It can only close so much but the links still click and remind the dog to ease off the pressure.I found that certain pound shops sell a lightweight 25mm wide  load straps, bright orange ones,,some with a reflective white band up the center.These are very strong and can be adapted and have good durable clips fitted. The orange strap feeds out through the index and thumb with very little trouble. It is really important that you can see the leads in the dark. Bad things happen when you cannot see the long leads.
Extending leads are a spring loaded coil of lead that is fed out of the coil and controlled by a brake that is worked by the thumb. when the brake is released,the lead recoils back into the casing a bit like a spring loaded measuring tape with a handle. Eventually the brake mechanism sticks on or refuses to work and the thing becomes a complete liability.
  Extending leads should be avoided by people with a dog over 20kgs. they are an accident waiting to happen,,especially the ones with the black nylon cords and the dodgy brakes. I know that we all have them and that we all use them but they are dangerous and you need to avoid them if possible. Do not use them with a dog over 20kgs. Eventually you will suffer. Muzzles are good and a "must" to keep on the right side of the law but you need to be able to flick it off if you suddenly find yourself in enemy territory and your dog is being attacked by some little mutt that knows exactly what a muzzle is for. Your dog needs to trust your judgement and he will have serious doubts if you keep him muzzled when he is getting his head chewed off by some halfwit mutt. Funny enough, you will often find the attacker melting away when the muzzle drops off. Never hit of beat your dog if he is fighting. Just pull him out and gently calm him down. A lot of people that i knew carried a small bag of golf balls and a putter. I never knew them to actually play golf but they did use the putter quite frequently.It is not something that I would advise.
  The long lead hanging on the wall brings back many happy memories,,various dogs have sat looking up and wagging the tail. Angel sits regularly in front of hers, looking up at it sitting stock still.Some of these days ,,that lead will self levitate off the hook and drop round her shoulders. The best made standard dog lead that I bought recently was one out of Aldi ,the one with the ring on one end and the clip on the other approx 6ft long.3.50 euros. The handiest lead of the lot is the 15ft lead adapted from the 25mm orange load straps. It can be rolled up tight and fitted into a normal pocket while you use the standard lead. Halties are an excellent investment. Again,very often the quality is expensive carp and you can make a better one yourself. In my own case, i had to make one for Diesel because i could not get one to fit his head, I used it for only 4 or 5 months. He simply did not need it after that. He turned out to be a very responsible kind of a dog.
If you go prepared with the right lead and equipment you stand a better chance of enjoying your walk and avoiding stress.
                                                                             Biff
 NB, Over 40 years ago and to this day, People debate the use of the choke chain,,I should be calling it a check chain but that term is used on other leads in the States. It is the responsibility of the dog handler to handle his dog correctly and not abuse the choke chain. Properly used,the choke chain links send a clear signal to the dog that is easily obeyed without any upset or distress. I have never used and will never use an electric collar or sonic beepers. These are definitely cruel items. Cesar Milan does impress me. There is  no two ways about it. I know he has his troubles but he has done great work. We all make mistakes and I am no exception. Every day that goes by, we should all learn something new, we should,.

              
        


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on May 06, 2018, 05:18:21 PM
Good thoughts biff.
We hate extender leads here, have various long lines, we have used haltis on heads when walking the original 6 on public land. Now we just walk them all off lead and carry slip leads for occasional use. My two shepherds have front loading harnesses for when we go off site (training, etc), they allow a lot of control without potentially cutting into the face.
I know there is debate about electric collars, and they are likely about to be banned, but we have a set of 6, once again from walking in public woods where the hunters amongst the pack would shoot off taking everyone else with them. We don't use them now but i think in the right hands they can be a useful and not necessarily cruel thing. Easy to abuse though


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Nickel2 on May 06, 2018, 06:09:15 PM
One of my friends has what I'd call a 'friendly' choke collar for her shepherd cross. The actual collar is leather adjustable to fit the dog's neck, with a 'D' ring at either end that the leader-chain runs through. When the dog pulls the lead tight, the collar can only pull up to the limit that you set, so it will never cause the gagging that you hear from some collars. It works well and the dog never gets 'choked', only a reminder of who is in charge. In normal use it sags as slack as you set it.
I believe it is called a 'Half-check' collar.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on May 06, 2018, 06:15:42 PM
Are electric collars banned on children? wackoold ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 06, 2018, 06:19:56 PM
 :hysteria
 Good one Tod.
  Biff.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on May 06, 2018, 06:21:13 PM
Are electric collars banned on children? wackoold ;D

Ha ha yes but not electric fences...  whistle


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on May 06, 2018, 08:43:19 PM
 Our Kid Diesel and his gal Angel,
   The years fly by. He was 8 in March and I know that having a body like his puts terrible strain on the heart. So we reduced his weight down from 74kgs to 68kgs a couple of years ago. (he was never fat) I exercise him gently but he loves his grub. He is one of the most kindly souls on the planet but an excellent house and companion dog. Angel his soul mate. He is one lucky little dug.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/9ih8soo0n/100.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9ih8soo0n/)

 She is looking guilty as sin there but I don,t recall anything out of kilter. Maybe she was in a hurry to look for the newts that hang round the right hand side of the roller door. She can sit ans stare at them,till she nearly falls over. They might be hypnotising her. wacko
                                                  Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on May 07, 2018, 06:53:39 AM
They are looking great Biff. Relaxed and happy. Wouldn't you love to know what they are thinking.
I'd love to shed 6 kilos!



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on May 24, 2018, 01:42:30 PM
Slight problem at the cat rescue site, with a gypsy invasion nearby, so all cats had to be removed very quick (worried about theft for dog fight training).

So we now have two extra feline's, a 20lb porker with a teddy bear face, and a 16lb chunkie with mangled ears (old injuries and cabbage ears treated a few years ago) which make him look angry. Last night was fun, I had to get Wifey out of bed as I was trying to get into their room with food and litter etc, whilst they were both trying to get out, and our three all wanted to get in.

Teddy Bear and Ears are both lovely friendly boys and hopefully get a forever home together next week.


(https://s7.postimg.cc/bgnohcspz/IMG_2536.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bgnohcspz/)



(https://s7.postimg.cc/4rh50swxz/IMG_2535.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4rh50swxz/)


Great news (and boo hoos  :'( ) for Richard the Guide dog. He's just back from a vet check, and has been cleared for placement, so he leaves us on Tuesday for his next big adventure.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on May 29, 2018, 10:15:43 AM
Good luck with Teddy Bear and Ears, a bit of a worry having to move them all but understand why.....

Great news for Richard, I still have the utmost admiration for you doing it, way beyond my emotional threshold to go through all that.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on May 29, 2018, 03:38:17 PM
Good luck with Teddy Bear and Ears, a bit of a worry having to move them all but understand why.....

Great news for Richard, I still have the utmost admiration for you doing it, way beyond my emotional threshold to go through all that.

So ..... I assumed that there would be problems for months, but after the land owner had a chat with the visitors and suggested the use of a bulldozer or two, they've moved on. But Teddybear and Ears got a proper home on Thursday, so we are keeping them for now as they are just adorable.

Richard left at 12 noon for his new adventures. He's now with the GDO (guide dog owner) at a hotel in Cardiff for two weeks training together. Apparently she was extremely excited about getting him (they have met), and that's great to know. But there have been a few tears.

Good news, is that Guide Dogs may have matched us with a young retired guide dog, so we are waiting to see if that pans out. Also a new boarder may arrive in late June, we may also be used for a weight watchers program to get podgy dogs fitter and thinner (over two weeks), and we have Scout (our boarder last year) back in late June for a two week holiday. So lots of good news.

Last run this morning

(https://s15.postimg.cc/591o9w4k7/IMG_20180529_102450.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/591o9w4k7/)


Packed and ready to go


(https://s15.postimg.cc/46rhrf6c7/IMG_20180529_112813.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/46rhrf6c7/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on May 29, 2018, 04:41:24 PM
Oh Gosh, I'm in bits just reading about it all.

I love the use of a bulldozer, or two.....

Great news for Teddy Bear and Ears.

I hope your young retiree works out and I love the idea of weight watchers.

Clearly you are an animal hero, good on ya !!!!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on May 30, 2018, 06:54:12 AM
Hats off Mart. Well done indeed.
Hope your young retiree goes well for you.
Like Tigger I don't know how you do it

I am available for adoption  and most definitely could use the weight watchers fortnight. ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on May 30, 2018, 07:26:38 AM
Oh Gosh, I'm in bits just reading about it all.

I love the use of a bulldozer, or two.....

Great news for Teddy Bear and Ears.

I hope your young retiree works out and I love the idea of weight watchers.

Clearly you are an animal hero, good on ya !!!!

Teddy bear and Ears (Woodie and Freddie) both have FIV, so re-homing is a bit trickier as they shouldn't be allowed to roam free just in case they spread FIV to neighbouring cats, but tomorrow they go to a long term foster who has 5 other FIV's (I think). I'd keep em in a heartbeat if we didn't already have cats and cat flaps ..... not that Woodie could fit through the outer catflap.

Just waiting on Guide Dogs to hear officially about the re-homing, yesterday Richard's trainer was just feeling us out about her, so we shall see.

Tod, you are welcome anytime, be it weight watchers or just coffee and cake. Sometimes the GD's get a bit podgy if spoiled and also if they don't get much exercise, as this depends on the availability of someone to free run them, and of course that's not always possible depending on the circumstances of the GD owner. So all we'd have to do is stick strictly to the food weight we are given, and then enjoy the dog for two weeks with lots of walks.

Not sure if I've mentioned this before, but when we had a guide dog puppy, we were only supposed to free-run them 3 to 4 times a week, whereas most folk probably free-run their dog 14 times a week. Basically, you don't want a super fit dog that expects regular walks, in case the GDO isn't able.

Maybe we could tie a fat cat to a fat guide dog and let em burn of calories chasing each other? I might approach Dragon's Den, though I suspect the police and RSPCA would be there waiting to meet me.  :o


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on May 30, 2018, 02:26:53 PM
Mart we have Penbury park near us, dog heaven. 11 miles of beach attached to woods. There are  pre 8am walkers (mostly folk that have left the first flush of youth behind) there are several circuits and often you find yourself falling into step with someone for a chat. The dogs lout about to their hearts content. Dogs are banned from a section of beach in Summer which means you have to exit a little further down. The dune of death wackoold imagine if you will a very steep 25m climb with soft almost liquid sand. One step up, half a step slid back.
Add to this 2 red setters 4 labradors, and a border collie, and 4 humans.
 The dogs charged to the top and then dashed back to 'help' . By the time we reached the top we were nearly wetting ourselves with laughing.

Fabulous walk and pretty flat great for day to day.

Would love to see you if you venture West.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on June 14, 2018, 08:10:48 AM
Fabulous walk and pretty flat great for day to day.

Would love to see you if you venture West.

Sounds great. I haven't travelled much since 2000 due to back issues, but things are improving a bit lately and car journeys are getting easier.

But could you cope with someone with hands as big as mine, for instance here's a photo of me yesterday fussing three adult cats all at the same time.  ;)


(https://s15.postimg.cc/tbzqbi8g7/35232918_866096323578042_591238970264780800_n.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tbzqbi8g7/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on June 14, 2018, 09:56:21 AM
Bidding for cutest photo of the year ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on June 19, 2018, 04:55:37 PM
Animal update.

Doggie news - Like buses, 3 guide dogs all came along at once, but we can only handle 2. So we have Scout back (he boarded with us last year) next Monday whilst his owner is on holiday for 2 weeks. And we have a new training dog boarding with us from week Thurs for 10+ weeks, so a fun crossover.

Puddy news - Wifey (reading Facebook) warned me in advance that the cat rescue centre had taken in a Maine Coon (in a right mess), knowing that I think the breed is great. So on Monday I arrived pre-warned, but I didn't expect a 'proper' Maine Coon - Wow, I didn't know whether to fuss it, feed it, or ride it around the block? He was a gorgeous (ly disgusting and smelly) big boy, and very friendly. See the story on the charity's facebook page, as the RSPCA are now involved.

ARC - Anna's Rescue Centre (https://www.facebook.com/annasrescue/)

Here's the pic from the site, check out those PAWS!

(https://s33.postimg.cc/9z9w15luj/Goliath_-_Maine_Coon.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9z9w15luj/)

I've now got a before photo and feel half sad and half furious, poor fellah!

(https://s33.postimg.cc/a87gqudzv/Goliath_before.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/a87gqudzv/)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Greenbeast on June 20, 2018, 08:00:06 AM
Good work, we briefly had a maine coon last year as i love them but he didn't get on with many of our animals here and went missing  :(


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on June 20, 2018, 08:56:27 AM
Oh wow, what a spectacular transformation and so deserving of his name  :)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on June 20, 2018, 10:53:36 AM
I was hoping that Goliath would be back from the vets this morning as I do Wednesday mornings too, but sadly he didn't make it. Whilst under to have his mouth problems investigated, it turned out he was extremely ill, and so only one option was fair and kind at that point.

At least his last few days were spent being fussed by all of us, rather than on the streets, and it was amazing how we all took to him instantly.

A week of ups and downs.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on June 20, 2018, 10:59:28 AM
Oh Mart, that is so sad, such a lovely looking big old boy too.

Indeed, he had a great time at the end and was loved and fussed as he deserved.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on June 20, 2018, 12:18:07 PM
So sorry to hear that Mart.  You did all that you could for him. He was loved at the end.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 20, 2018, 08:52:04 PM
Very sorry to hear that Mart,
              Take heart in the fact that he finally met a true friend before setting off for the happy hunting ground. These brief but powerful encounters leave us sad but richer. He was lucky to have met you.
              Biff.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on December 06, 2018, 07:07:10 AM
Doggie news. We started boarding a new guide dog trainee in the summer. He'd just arrived in Cardiff for advanced training. The first words from the trainer when she dropped him off were - "I've no idea how he got this far".

Absolute sweetheart, but finding training stressful and displaying anxiety, he panted for the first two days we had him, and I had to sleep in the kitchen with him on the first night as he was crying. Anyways, having won our hearts (and everyone he'd met beforehand too) and after another 10 'last chances' he was finally withdrawn.

We asked if we could have him, and GD's said yes.

So we finally have our forever dog, and Buster's* stress levels have dropped off now that he has a forever home and isn't being moved around anymore.

Also, now that he will no longer be a GD we can relax some of the rules which are there to avoid bad habits in case the GD owner doesn't want them to do certain things - such as going on the furniture or up the stairs, not that you can tell  ..............


(https://i.postimg.cc/bsT5LLzf/IMG-2588.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bsT5LLzf)


We're giving him a few months to fully settle in, so won't be boarding full time any more GD's till Jan(ish), in case it undermines his confidence that this is his home. But we've had short stays (just a few days) with other dogs, and he's brilliant with them all, and seems to be a calming influence, even on our friends nutty retriever puppy who never settles and never stops barking - but she was a sweetheart here with Buster.

*He was originally Hobson from a 'H' litter with lots of H siblings, but became Buster at some point.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on December 06, 2018, 09:23:47 AM
Hobsons choice for Buster Mart.
     Good luck with your new dog. :crossed
   Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on December 06, 2018, 09:50:24 AM
Great news Mart, he's obviously embracing the opportunity to explore those previously restrictive boundaries :)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on December 06, 2018, 11:39:25 AM
Great news Mart. One lucky dog. Good to see his bed training progressing well!  whistle whistle wacko


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: stannn on December 06, 2018, 11:50:18 AM
Well done Mart. Id like to see an upright pose.
Stan


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on December 08, 2018, 08:21:48 AM
Hobsons choice for Buster Mart.
     Good luck with your new dog. :crossed
   Biff


We like the name so much, we got a new cat yesterday just to call Hobson!

Actually, not exactly true, I've had my eye on him for weeks at the cat rescue, and my Mon/Wed cleaning partner has been teasing me to take him home, but we were planning on two kittens next, as we haven't had any for 20yrs as a multitude of cats have 'found us'. But I finally gave in.

His name is Cello, but it doesn't suit him as he's more of a double bass, I've been calling him BeBe (Big Boy) as he's big, fat, and has a large round face. But then I realised I keep calling the dog Bigboy, so that's no good, and Hobson will become Hobbsie, but that'll confuse everyone as Hobbes (my avatar) passed a few years back. So we are looking for suggestions, and are thinking Xmas ideas, a great one suggested by Wifey's Facebook friends was Claus, but he's such a gentle giant that seems unfair (but did make me think Ben form the childrens TV show Gentle Ben).

Currently 'Puddin' is topping the charts.

Pic to follow, but don't want to disturb him as he's settled on one side of Wifey on the bed, whilst Buster is settled on the other ...... things could get 'interesting' fast!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on December 08, 2018, 09:26:20 AM
The battle for bed space is always tricky. Trying to maintain your own place is hard.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on January 11, 2019, 12:21:40 PM
More animal pics.

Here's one of Buster vertical, meeting a young Guide Dog puppy. They adored each other. Buster is very tall, but all legs, only 28kg, and has managed, to my astonishment, to squeeze through the railings surrounding a nearby children's play area.


(https://i.postimg.cc/YGcXG1KG/IMG-20181119-105408.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YGcXG1KG)

Next we have a recent 'Ohhhhhh!' picture of cat/dog harmony, but actually Buster just stayed still and hoped old Flash didn't thump him. But thumps are less frequent now, and he has started to do big head rubs against Buster's snout. I guess you can take the feral out of the garden, but not out of the cat.


(https://i.postimg.cc/BXW1rM51/IMG-20190109-192342.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BXW1rM51)


And lastly gorgeous Puddin the new boy(ish)


(https://i.postimg.cc/3k8Wh6kW/IMG-20181218-202137.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3k8Wh6kW)


Sadly, whilst we adored him, and he was great fun, I suspect he was a Crunchie short of a selection pack. Basically, despite him being about 2yrs old, we got a muscle bound 13lb kitten that was as solid as a Staffie. He quickly settled in, then decided that Flash was a friend, and began to kitten pounce on him (up high in the air then down with a thump) at every single opportunity. Flash has never, till now looked small, but the 'fights' that kept developing were entirely one-sided. Despite his best growls, hisses and spits, Flash couldn't seem to convince Pud that he wasn't a toy, so would end up hiding under furniture and getting distressed.

So Pud's stay with us became a 3 week foster session, rather than the hoped for adoption. But he's happy back at the rescue, and is being advertised as dog friendly as he and Buster got on so well.


That's about it for now. We are now open again for Guide Dog boarding, so hopefully we'll have more to love, hug and report on. And maybe a couple of kittens, as Flash likes the ones that have visited for a few days, and kittens seem to like Buster.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on January 11, 2019, 02:48:19 PM
Hi Mart,

A shame about Puddin but at least knowing he gets on with dogs should help with his credentials towards finding his fur-ever home.

As for the pic of Flash and Buster, that's definitely an ooh.  OK Buster is being smart and avoiding thumps from 'the boss' but still a great pic :)

Ian.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on January 21, 2019, 06:53:41 PM
Hi Mart,

A shame about Puddin but at least knowing he gets on with dogs should help with his credentials towards finding his fur-ever home.

As for the pic of Flash and Buster, that's definitely an ooh.  OK Buster is being smart and avoiding thumps from 'the boss' but still a great pic :)

Ian.

Thanks Ian, and good news, Puddin has been rehomed and the new owners have sent an update saying that he's settled in, and already in charge of the two collies! Cool.

So here's the new boy (temporary).


(https://i.postimg.cc/21sdW3kd/IMG-2589.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21sdW3kd)


This is Casper. he's been at the shelter for about 2 months but does nothing, absolutely nothing. He finds somewhere to hide and then hisses at you when you get close, but then just turns into a granite lump whilst you stroke him.

Decided today that I couldn't watch him struggle anymore, so we've brought him home for some TLC to see if that brings him out of his shell. Couldn't get him out of the rescue cat nest tower, even after turning it upside down, so had to tie a sheet around it, and take the whole thing home.

30mins of laying next to the nest and stroking his chin and ears and he started to purr. Went downstairs to get the litter etc, came back and he hissed like hell at me again. Oh well, early days.

He's been to the vet 3x but they can't find anything wrong, so we think he's just shutdown being in a pen with other cats around. Some like it, some get scared but come round, but occasionally you get one that just can't cope.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on January 21, 2019, 08:50:49 PM
Great news about Puddin :)

So you have another challenge, I hope Casper works out well for everyone, just keep working your magic on him and hopefully he'll suddenly start to change.  We took on a little girl who was 6 months old but terrified of people, always ran to the back of the cage in the rescue centre so of course nobody really wanted her.  We took her because we wanted her to have somewhere to feel safe even if she never took to 'us' as being part of her family.  For the first few days she hid away in places we didn't think were big enough to get into but we kept at it and slowly but surely she accepted us and now she lays on my lap whilst we watch a bit of TV.  She's the smallest of the four cats in our 'family' but she has the biggest attitude and rules the roost..... 

I admire your determination and perseverance Mart, and the fact that you want to do the best for these 'special ones'.

Keep up the good work.



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on January 22, 2019, 06:36:21 AM
I know where you're coming from with the scared ones. At least a safe house means they hide in peace. My neighbour and cleaning partner is great for the kittens and small cats like that, but they've had to call a halt to doing anymore as her husband gets too attached and upset when they get adopted. It's a shame because he obviously has the knack as they all work their way to him for cuddles over a few evenings. Plus they have 3 cats and a small dog which are all social, so the cats can prosper. Two of the cats and the dog are from the rescue ...... too hard to let go!

Currently there are 3 huge looking, but actually quite light Burmese cats. Massive, massive coats, two of which will probably get shaved today due to matting. They look grumpy, and I expected 'diva's' but they turned out to be 3 of the sweetest cats I've ever met. One followed us round for nearly 2hrs yesterday as we worked, checking out what we did, and asking for a fuss every 10mins or so.

I also meet several dog foster'ers on my walks with Buster, lot of re-homed Greyhounds at the moment. You don't realise how much goes on in your community sometimes.

Edit - BTW, Casper hasn't shutdown, we've heard several large thuds from the living room ceiling where he must be jumping down from the windowsill (looking for an escape route?) But he's always back in the tower when we enter, and always greets us with a huge hiss as we approach, but no bites, scratches etc.. He's definitely a complicated little fellah. No idea if he'll come round, but we really don't know what to do with him. He can't be released back onto the streets (like some of the psycho ferals, after neutering (trap and release)) as he doesn't seem to be a street cat, but can't be re-homed if he won't interact at all, and might leg it at the first opportunity. Fun and games.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Nickel2 on January 22, 2019, 08:16:57 AM
My sister's cat didn't like me at first. I was feeding the cat/watering plants/house sitting one week. The cat watched me everywhere from a safe distance but wouldn't approach. I sat on the back doorstep nibbling a piece of lean ham pretending to ignore her, then flicked a 3/8" piece into the gap between us. Curiosity won, Tess had to have a look and sniff. Next bit closer, and closer. Twenty minutes later she was on my lap purring and having her head massaged. After that she was in the drive yowling every time she heard my car: "Where have you been? Where's the ham? Head-massage NOW!" She lived for 22 years and was a good friend, sadly missed.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on January 23, 2019, 07:13:16 AM
My sister's cat didn't like me at first. I was feeding the cat/watering plants/house sitting one week. The cat watched me everywhere from a safe distance but wouldn't approach. I sat on the back doorstep nibbling a piece of lean ham pretending to ignore her, then flicked a 3/8" piece into the gap between us. Curiosity won, Tess had to have a look and sniff. Next bit closer, and closer. Twenty minutes later she was on my lap purring and having her head massaged. After that she was in the drive yowling every time she heard my car: "Where have you been? Where's the ham? Head-massage NOW!" She lived for 22 years and was a good friend, sadly missed.

I have been feeding some nice looking lumps out of his foodbowl, when he's in the 'tower'. He took the bits and left holes in my finger (my fault, too much liquid).  :laugh:

He's hissing less, and purring more. Last night, after about 20mins of gentle fuss, he half-flipped in his hidey hole, and I risked a belly rub (his, not mine), which went down very well.

Starting to wonder if he might be partly deaf or blind, not uncommon in some white cats (and dogs/rabbits), hence his hissing and fear.

Anyways, sorry for all the waffle, just think silly, good news (hopefully) stories are nice sometimes.

I'll update when we get somewhere, but a pic/video of him fussing/being fussed outside of the cat tower would be an achievement, just hope it's not asking too much. If we can win him over, then he can be put up for adoption for folk who'll be willing to win him over, something Anna (of ARC - Anna's Rescue Centre) can't do at the moment as we really don't know what we have!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on January 23, 2019, 08:54:35 AM
Mart,

It's not waffle, keep sharing all the good news, great to know Casper is beginning to relax a little.  Interesting comment about the deaf/blind issue with white cats as we took in a white cat from one of my cousins who was having to move house and he went temporarily blind (the cat, not my cousin).

Nickel2,

Great story about your sister's cat, playing on her natural curiosity and being rewarded with a friend for life, just wonderful.


We need lots of good news stories :)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on January 25, 2019, 06:39:30 AM
With all that is going on at the moment it is a joy to read something normal.
Carrying on posting Looking forward to hearing of progress.

Trexie the cat was born in a cellar we got her at 8 weeks  ferral. She lived upstairs hiding for a few weeks. During the night she would come and crawl under the duvet  and sleep next to our feet before sneaking off at dawn. The food bowl being emptied every day.
We eventually tempted her downstairs but she never gave in to selling her soul.
She is 14 now and runs the house very occasionally she will sit on my lap but rarely. Her preferance is to arrive for an ear tickle before settling on the arm of my chair.
Elliott (collie) is fascinated by her and they have a love/hate relationship. She bops him for no real reason and then will miaow loudly at him sleeping in his bed to get his attention.
She does not like being picked up, but will converse with me. Rather along the lines of skippy the kangeroo!
She agrees to share her house with us, in return for food but on her terms.
Good luck


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on January 25, 2019, 07:42:54 AM
Tod, what a lovely story about Trexie and who she allows to share 'her house', very rewarding and also a great demonstration of feline independence and subtle control of their staff.  I love that she makes use of Elliot's bed to get his attention and remind him who the boss is :)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on January 25, 2019, 07:59:05 AM
OK, by popular demand then, quick update. He's purring now within seconds of 'inserting arm in hole', but still shy/scared. He seems to love a good rough rub of his head, I put my hand completely over his head and just scrunch it while it he purrs. And after a 'borderline assault' of slowly forcing my hand under him and between his four legs to stroke his belly, he slowly relaxed, stretched out, and when I was able to really rub his chest/belly he started to flip over.

He's also nervously crawled out of his hole twice whilst I've sat there, but after making a show of putting new food in his bowl. When he loses confidence and scuttles back in, I get a whole raft of hisses, but he let's me fuss him, and goes back to purrs straightaway.

Anna is very happy, and we are getting more confident that he can be re-homed if he makes more progress. There will be folk willing to take on a nervous cat, and one that might not interact too much with them, but not fair to give them a cat that might leg it at the first opportunity, and we still don't know what he is. Have to say he's one of the most complicated cats I've met, and he's scared of something, so perhaps mistreated, not sure. Not sure if he has full sight, but his eyes look ok, but his hearing is fine as he scuttles back into the hidey hole when I walk up the stairs (we have a small camera set up to watch him).

There is a 'fun' video of me somewhere, last week shut in a large crate with five ferals. I was trying to fuss them all, 4 large kits and their mom, but they were all trying to dodge me, whilst I was on all fours and trying to keep the door blocked with my back end. So finally I just crawled in, locked it from the inside, and fussed them all (just a few light strokes). Four of them gave a few hisses, but tolerated some fuss, whilst the smallest hissed herself daft, but couldn't avoid a bit of contact. The idea is to get them a bit more relaxed with people, so they can be rehomed at a farm, or stables, where they can be fed, but live 'free' and interact with people if they want - a much easier life than a full feral which might only live for 8yrs or so.

But, I spend the whole video talking in a stupid voice and saying stupid things to keep em calm, so perhaps best left lost!  :-[


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on January 25, 2019, 10:17:07 AM
Oh Mart, imagine tempting us with a video you in a strange position speaking in a silly voice. What fun. Go on you know you want to! surrender:
Do keep us posted and help keep us sane.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on January 28, 2019, 08:46:32 AM
Come on Mart, send the link, you can't tease us and then not deliver.......


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on January 28, 2019, 06:11:14 PM
Come on Mart, send the link, you can't tease us and then not deliver.......

I asked my cleaning buddy (Di from across the road) about it this morning, and asked if she could forward it, but she has sadly (oh what a shame) deleted it off her phone due to memory issues (phone's not her's) as she takes 100's of photo's as we work away, so that the good ones can be posted on the main site.

Just checked the site's Facebook page, as Di sent it to Anna (the boss) but no vid or stills were posted. I was in the crate again this morning, but only half in (Actually they now have two crates as we found that two were identical, same make and model, so the side doors could be lined up giving them more room. And please don't think too badly about the use of 'crates' they are very big dog crates, and the ferals go in these rather than the larger pens as you can corner them with a carry box, whereas in the big pens they run around you and are nigh on impossible to catch, especially when scared. Perhaps I'll climb in on Wednesday ..... just for a laugh and a photo opportunity! They are getting a bit calmer, still hissing at me, but not as quick to run away, really adorable.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on January 28, 2019, 08:15:48 PM
That's strangely convenient Mart and you somehow expect us to believe you.....

Still, another opportunity is awaiting so we're all looking forward to seeing the result :)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on January 29, 2019, 06:31:55 AM
How often have we heard of the vital video disappearing fpig:  ;D ;D
Looking forward to seeing the new pics Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on January 29, 2019, 07:07:19 AM
One day when I'm famous, Wikileaks will try to track down the video of me locked in a cage with Tom, and four Queens!

[That's the clean version, as I was going to go with me trying to grab five pu .............. ddytats.  :o]


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on January 29, 2019, 08:14:55 AM
Mart,

>>That's the clean version

I'm not sure that being in a cage with four queens is actually that much better  ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on January 29, 2019, 12:41:35 PM
Mart,

>>That's the clean version

I'm not sure that being in a cage with four queens is actually that much better  ;D

Don't knock it till you've tried it.   whistle


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on January 30, 2019, 04:33:07 PM
May have  cage photo and vids to follow, but for now, here's a ginger Siamese, never heard of that before. Don't know if it's a breed, or a 'mishap'. Lovely cat, came in yesterday, so I only saw it today, and all it wanted was fuss. Very noisy, and neighbour promises to forward a video.

(https://i.postimg.cc/N5LK0Y4H/IMG-2597.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N5LK0Y4H)

and Buster's new best friend who we keep bumping into this week. He's 45kg of 'Bully' which is apparently a name for an American Bulldog / American Staffie cross, as oppossed to what I think of as a bullie, which is the gorgeous long nosed English Bull Terrier. This guy is an absolute sweetie, but one look sends some park visitors running for home. He came from America, so ears were already done, owner doesn't agree with it.

Anyways, here's the 'Devil Dog' Sunnie.

(https://i.postimg.cc/WqNXZt3j/IMG-2590.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WqNXZt3j)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on January 30, 2019, 08:15:57 PM
So you have the combination of the attitude of a Siamese cat coupled with the attitude of a ginger cat, wow I bet that makes for some fun :)

I can imagine a 45kg 'Bully' really does make some people leg it.....

Keep up the good work Mart.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on January 31, 2019, 06:21:36 AM
That is one solid dog surrender:
Love it Mart. One special cat I've never seen one like that. Looks fabulous.
Great work.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on January 31, 2019, 08:23:49 AM
Video of me fussing the ginger Siamese won't copy, but I'm sure my Alpha Geek (Wifey) will be able to fix it later.

I was down there this morning putting up shelves, and he never shut up. Fussing him only made it worse. he needs a home, ideally with someone with less than perfect hearing.

Silly pic of me playing with the five ferals yesterday. They are getting much better, mum is hiding by my shins, but the braver two snuggled up against me, or more likely, were getting as far away from my hands as possible.

(https://i.postimg.cc/MfKC0FmP/Navipets-cage-pic.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MfKC0FmP)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on January 31, 2019, 03:57:23 PM
No way Mart freeeze
     I am but a humble canine lover.
    Cats. Errr no I like other people's cats but neither Mrs Biff nor myself are tuned into the felines.
         Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Ricc on February 04, 2019, 10:36:22 AM

  Hi could be an Abyssinian....

   cheers

       Richard


May have  cage photo and vids to follow, but for now, here's a ginger Siamese, never heard of that before. Don't know if it's a breed, or a 'mishap'. Lovely cat, came in yesterday, so I only saw it today, and all it wanted was fuss. Very noisy, and neighbour promises to forward a video.

(https://i.postimg.cc/N5LK0Y4H/IMG-2597.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N5LK0Y4H)

and Buster's new best friend who we keep bumping into this week. He's 45kg of 'Bully' which is apparently a name for an American Bulldog / American Staffie cross, as oppossed to what I think of as a bullie, which is the gorgeous long nosed English Bull Terrier. This guy is an absolute sweetie, but one look sends some park visitors running for home. He came from America, so ears were already done, owner doesn't agree with it.

Anyways, here's the 'Devil Dog' Sunnie.

(https://i.postimg.cc/WqNXZt3j/IMG-2590.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WqNXZt3j)



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: linesrg on February 04, 2019, 04:37:20 PM
Ricc,

Looks Abyssinian like to me, my favourite breed although I prefer the Blue........... but would have expected more tabby like markings to the body?

Regards

Richard


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 04, 2019, 05:19:24 PM
Ohhhhhh, yes, I can see that. I've Googled 'em' and whilst images vary, some do look like her.

Good news, she got adopted yesterday, and I was there, just a co-incidence as I was loading up my tools and ladders etc etc.. The lady taking her has others and thought she was great. She was surprised that we could just scoop her up and cuddle her ....... but that's how we greet all visitors ...... boom boom.

Cat vid still fighting back, and alpha geek now at A&E having sprained her elbow (yep, turns out that's a thing) having tripped over all the wood and tools I dumped in the garage when the weather said no no to any more porch roof building end of last week. She says it wasn't my fault, so we all know who's fault it really was ......... mine!  surrender:


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on February 05, 2019, 06:15:13 AM
Sounds painful, hope all is well.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 05, 2019, 07:23:37 AM
Sounds painful, hope all is well.

Good news, elbow isn't sprained. Bad news, the radial head is fractured ...... and we all know who's fault it is, don't we!

Great news with Casper, he lets his guard down about once a week, and last night not only did he come out of his hidey hole for food, with me in the room, but he butted my hand, and when I lent forward, he butted my head several times and stood in front of me whilst he ate.

This morning he doesn't want to come out, which seems to be his routine, he lets his guard down, then gets over protective for a few days, as it seems to scare him. Very, very slow progress, but strongly suspect he's a lap cat, he just doesn't know it yet.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on February 05, 2019, 09:25:51 AM
Great news about the head butting Mart, Casper's definitely thinking about possibly considering perhaps allowing you to be part of his family  :)

Not so good news about the fracture but at least you know your place in life  :hysteria


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on February 05, 2019, 12:42:45 PM
 facepalm Oh Mart sounds like a spell in the dog house! .
Good news with Casper, our Trexie has been stuck in tickle my head, where is my fish, you are now dismissed, stage for about 14 years. She will sit on the arm of my chair in case she needs something urgently but on the lap about twice a year. Walking my supine body in bed is considered acceptable. Good luck looking forward to the next chapter.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 06, 2019, 07:08:11 AM
Surprise progress. He came out three times for us yesterday, so a massive improvement on his previous policy of shutting down for a few days after 'risking' contact.

Also he is meowing more, and when we go in, he meows at us before running into his nest, whereas before we'd just get a hiss.

There's an awful lot going on in that little brain of his, he's definitely torn between fuss and hiding. This morning when I went in, he was curled up outside the nest (he then ran in), but that's a positive feeling safe to sleep outside.

Anyways, quick breakfast, then off to muck out the cats, then back to help my mate Bob move the battening from garage floor to porch roof ..... a bit late for Wifey, but if she will play in areas where there's 'man-work' to be done! [God I hope she doesn't read this.  :fight ]

Funny problem for Wifey, because she's hurt her left arm, she can't take Buster for a walk, as he's left side trained like all Guide dogs. And Buster being Buster, he just gets upset when we do odd things to him. Apparently that's a Retriever trait too, as they like routine. One of the trainers told us how if there is two routes say to the shops for a GDO (guide dog owner), a Lab will try to vary how they get there for a change, whilst a Retriever will prefer to stick to one route. Buster's 3/4 Ret + 1/4 Lab, so presumably he only takes a different route every 4th trip .......!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on February 06, 2019, 04:22:45 PM
I do hope your wife can vacuum right handed Mart!!! :fight  Can't believe I wrote that surrender:

Mrs T does not read this, it is hard to do anything with two broken legs, she does not take prisoners.

Interesting about the route preferences.

Good news about the cat progress.

Hope Mrs Mart mends quickly


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 08, 2019, 07:41:32 AM
I do hope your wife can vacuum right handed Mart!!! :fight  Can't believe I wrote that surrender:

She's doing pretty good. I had to drive her into work on Monday (pre X-ray) to get laptop etc, so she could work from home - but I didn't mind!

She's also perfected walking the dog with the lead across her, so quite versatile. But she is taking longer to cook meals, and I have to open all the jars, but again, I don't mind all the extra work, too much.

She even had time to sort out the cat vid for me, so here's a vid, with non-stop noise and rambling, just won't shut up, and the cat is loud too:

Noisy Cat (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ekiiyirdvibsez/Noisy%20Cat.mp4?dl=0)

and a pic of me and Casper chilling out. He's getting much better, and quicker than expected:


(https://i.postimg.cc/BLB8qXwN/Two-Bro-s-hanging.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BLB8qXwN)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on February 08, 2019, 01:18:01 PM
Thanks for the vid Mart, definitely lots of rambling but wow what a voice that cat has.  That's made my Friday :)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on February 08, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
Mart don't go overdoing it. You could destroy your wife's self confidence, and give yourself repetitive strain disorder!

Great video.

I hope that it is a bit less windy and wet where you are.

How do you post a you tube link,
just tried and it didn't want to know ?



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 15, 2019, 08:25:15 AM
Casper (the timid rescue cat) has come on leaps and bounds. He's still nervous, but we've been getting lots of fuss (when he's brave) and has recently started meowing and even scratching at the bedroom door looking for more interaction.

This is great timing, as a lovely older couple came to see him last weekend as they were willing to take on a shy and timid cat. They thought he was great, and we're taking him to their house tomorrow. Hopefully he'll get on with their 'garage' cat, that comes in occasionally, and will have a great life. He absolutely loves being fussed, he's just scared to let his guard down, so almost 100% certain that he'll be a super affectionate lapcat going forward.

Also good timing that he's going now, as Wifey and I are close to the point of not wanting to see him go .... ever ....


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on February 15, 2019, 10:10:56 AM
More great news mart, thank you for the update.  Indeed good that he's going to a good home and good that it's before it's difficult for you and Mrs Mart.

Please keep us updated on how he gets on.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on February 15, 2019, 04:24:48 PM
Great news Mart. Keep posting and let us know how you and the 'Martlets are doing'

On a much sadder note driving home found a terribly injured young cat by the side of the road, took him down the vets who dropped everything to put him to sleep. Really don't understand the mentality of someone who could leave a mutilated animal alive and just drive off.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 15, 2019, 05:03:17 PM
Thanks guys, and yes timing wise also lucky as we are really bonding with him now. Good on you Tod, you can't save em all, but you can help a few, and nobody wants to let an animal suffer.

JACKPOT!   Wifey and I were fussing Casper this afternoon, and also giving him some bits of cooked chicken to see if that will help us catch him tomorrow for his trip (if he's in scaredy cat mode) ..... the chicken works, really works.

Anyway, whilst we were fussing him and he was strolling between us looking for more fuss, I went from kneeling to sort of 'side-saddle', with my bum/hip on the floor. And Casper explored my leg a few times with some pawing, then climbed onto my leg and settled down. Job done!

If he's going to a person and asking for fuss and attention, then I can't really ask for anything more. I think we have a lapcat. So long as the new owners are patient, and they certainly seem so, choosing to take on a timid cat, and keep him in for a few months till they are certain he's bonded, then I no longer fear that he'll bolt at the first opportunity.

Whatever created his anxiety of humans, he seems to have mostly gotten over it, and is willing to give us (the royal us) another chance.

One down, quite a few more to go!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on February 18, 2019, 08:16:27 AM
Wow, a major milestone achieved there Mart, your patience has paid off  :)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on February 18, 2019, 10:16:38 AM
Awww. I dun no Mart.
            We have a couple of charming puddy cats hanging around our green store and we would gladly give them tee yee. They are covered in bumps and gashes with scars from the tips of their ears to the tips of their tails. They have charming bald patches where their fur refuses to grow back. They are all action babies. A purely local breed not available anywhere elsee in the world. More aggressive than even our Robins . One of them has a bit of Robin in him for sure.
You are welcome to bring your own cage and trap one. Then get in there and charm it but only on condition that you bring your own surgical team and ventilator.
Some are very huggy and grab their fellow feline in their famous all action cat hug to pedal away like the divil with their back legs and tickle their opponents tummies. That one is called Fatal Attraction.
I have to be honest though..I am not too keen on them. I prefer the ones that bark and wag their tails
          Biff
         


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on February 18, 2019, 12:55:18 PM
Awww. I dun no Mart.
            We have a couple of charming puddy cats hanging around our green store and we would gladly give them tee yee. They are covered in bumps and gashes with scars from the tips of their ears to the tips of their tails. They have charming bald patches where their fur refuses to grow back. They are all action babies. A purely local breed not available anywhere elsee in the world. More aggressive than even our Robins . One of them has a bit of Robin in him for sure.
You are welcome to bring your own cage and trap one. Then get in there and charm it but only on condition that you bring your own surgical team and ventilator.
Some are very huggy and grab their fellow feline in their famous all action cat hug to pedal away like the divil with their back legs and tickle their opponents tummies. That one is called Fatal Attraction.
I have to be honest though..I am not too keen on them. I prefer the ones that bark and wag their tails
          Biff

"pedal away like the devil" - I know exactly what you mean, last Wednesday my cleaning buddy and I got a call asking if we could take three of the black ferals to the vet. With hindsight, I should have scruffed them, but I don't like scaring them too much, and we really rushed to make some appointment times that had come free at the last minute. So I gave a little fuss, gently pinned them down, then did the 'proper' cat hold of 4 fingers under each front leg, and thumbs on the shoulder blades - perfect, and no problem till they spotted the cat box, then Bruce Lee style, up came the back legs for a bit of friendly pedaling. I didn't think much of it, just a few 'love taps' off each cat, perhaps half a dozen scratches to the front and back of my right hand, but the vet phoned Anna (of ARC) and said I should go to A&E. Good job she hasn't seen me when I really get it wrong!

Soooooooooo Casper has gone to his new home. Wifey and I dropped him over, and we got to watch him slink out of the cat carrier and into the cat tower thingy, that's his safe place. He took some bits of chicken, and purred, so no big setback. Fingers crossed he'll keep getting better and become the lapcat we all know he really his. Odd fact, but I was fussing him Saturday, and he was laid out in front of me, and I was giving him a really rough 'scrunchy' fuss, digging my fingers in like kneading bread (which he likes) and I realised he has no scruff. The best I could get was about 1/2 inch pinched between my finger tips, or some flesh further down but below his shoulders, which is just baggy/stretchy cat skin, not their scruff. Bit weird, but for a medium sized cat, he does have a very thick neck, and the vet who neutered him last year did say he had the biggest 'peaches' he'd ever seen!  No wonder he didn't trust us.

Little git really got under our skin though, thought I'd toughened up with all the guide dog boarders coming and going, but really missing that silly little cat.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on March 15, 2019, 10:24:00 AM
One cat her servant, and faithful collie

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbfZbhUdyy2nhYRLbf1Mn1g


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on March 15, 2019, 10:45:25 AM
Lovely video Tod.
           That is one lucky cat.
       Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on April 22, 2019, 05:46:30 PM
Canix dog and partner racing on Penbury Sands today.
There have been proper races in the woods all weekend.
This is end of term fun 200+ competitors.
The noise of excited barking was incredible.
Mrs T on camera, neither of us have a clue on editing wackoold

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbfZbhUdyy2nhYRLbf1Mn1g


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on April 22, 2019, 08:49:00 PM
Looks like great gas Tod.
   There will be some stiff muscles after that.
  I feel sore already. Getting towed along like that in soft sand would leave both man and Dog unable to  get put of bed for a week.
           Bifg


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on April 28, 2019, 01:42:07 PM
So many animals, so little time.

So we have a new Guide Dog's trainee boarding with us called Vesper.

Here's a pic about 1min after Vesper and our boy Buster met. Buster impersonating a windswept blonde model, whilst vesper pretends he's a security/attack dog:

(https://i.postimg.cc/VdHBDJCm/IMG-20190417-170956.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VdHBDJCm)


Then Vesper needed to meet the rest of the family. One of these things is not like the other ones:


(https://i.postimg.cc/WFbhB7BK/IMG-20190417-172649.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFbhB7BK)


After Casper was re-homed, we took in Bear, formerly Gummy, then Gummy-Bear, an ex-feral who was handed in as his owner/feeder had become infirm. He was too scared at the rescue, so after a month I took pity on him. He was renamed due to his strength, and the fact "Gummy" seemed somewhat misinformative after about the 10th hole he put in me, but after a week of being terrified (him too) love blossomed.

(https://i.postimg.cc/V09s50PM/IMG-20190422-075344.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V09s50PM)

And lastly a new boy at the rescue. Friendly feral that people had been feeding. He came in on Sunday evening, and was cuddling with me after just ten mins of meeting on Monday morning. He's been named Ser Gregor:

(https://i.postimg.cc/bGHjxcBc/IMG-20190422-084707.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bGHjxcBc)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on April 29, 2019, 09:20:10 AM
Hi Mart,

Some lovely photos and stories there, I love the 'Windswept Blonde Model' :)



Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on May 04, 2019, 07:20:44 AM
It's time for the Professionals.

Haven't had kittens since 1998, we just keep picking up waifs and strays, so wanting two at the same time, meant waiting for our clowder's numbers to drop to one, especially since I think more than three cats is the tipping point into insanity. So we've had a standing order in with Anna at the rescue for two ginger tom's, since Xmas.

Well, since then the waiting list for kittens has grown to 40+, then the last month dropped to zero as kits started popping out in all directions. But still no ginga's. But we've had our fingers crossed for a small ginger and white girl that came in a while back, was 'slightly' fat, and had a really bad attitude to any cat that came even close to her pen, suggesting maternal instincts perhaps? Fat, turned to pregnant (I'm not sure that that's how it works scientifically!) and yesterday morning she popped, and the foster'er confirmed three kits, two of which were ginger Toms.

So say hello to Bodie and Doyle (and their tortie sister Renee), who hopefully will be boosting the redhead numbers here to four (if Vesper is still in training) in eight weeks time.


(https://i.postimg.cc/w1P1zbHb/59524303-2370060523226064-7016639516869918720-n.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1P1zbHb)

And, another Queen that Anna herself was fostering also popped, producing two tortie's/calico's and a male ginger and white ....... so a bit like buses, and a possible candidate for 'Cowley', but I think two will do ..... for now.


(https://i.postimg.cc/dh8GWYGj/59894967-344833829720343-8738012673385431040-n.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dh8GWYGj)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on May 07, 2019, 07:59:53 AM
Great news Mart, they're going to be lots of fun.

>>I think more than three cats is the tipping point into insanity

We currently have four, I think I might just agree with you........


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on May 07, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
Our furniture bears the scars of many years of cats wackoold

Going to be fun


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on June 15, 2019, 05:45:04 PM
Quick update on the kits. Nothing special, no importance, just some blatant cuteness as we borrowed Bodie & Doyle for a couple of hours yesterday to bring back and meet the dog, as apparently weaning age (6-8 weeks) is when they are most accepting of change.

It all went well, and they should be be with us permanently in a fortnight when they reach the grand old age of 8 weeks.

This is Doyle showing off his Kung Fu moves:

(https://i.postimg.cc/r0qrJkLj/IMG-20190614-145654.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/r0qrJkLj)

Then we have Bodie sizing up Buster:

(https://i.postimg.cc/fStT72k5/IMG-20190614-150508.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fStT72k5)

And Buster quite sad when they both climbed back into the cat box for a nap:

(https://i.postimg.cc/75VDz8mw/IMG-20190614-152118.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/75VDz8mw)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on June 15, 2019, 08:47:08 PM
Good luck Mart  ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on June 17, 2019, 09:03:11 AM
Oh wow Mart, those pics remind me of just how much fun kittens are, especially so during the early 'fearless' stage of curiosity.  I hope Buster understands that the kittens are now in charge  ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on June 17, 2019, 10:41:15 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/SjkZG3tM/009.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SjkZG3tM)
  The gal herself taking full advantage of my shed seat. Eating , sleeping and growing like a weed.
                                Biff


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on June 29, 2019, 04:39:54 PM
We have a broken dog!

(https://i.postimg.cc/t7LQZt0R/IMG-20190629-155634.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t7LQZt0R)

Didn't even know they could do a 180d?


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on July 01, 2019, 06:10:11 AM
Amazing how they can go from this to full attention in a nano second at the slightest sound involving food or walking!


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on July 30, 2019, 07:35:17 AM
Bit of an in-joke having 30kg retrievers that are scared of Flash (the cat), but here's a pic explaining why the dogs were crying and ringing the bells (we have a string of bells hanging by the garage door so they can knock them when they want to go out) despite the doors into the garage, and out to the garden being wide open:


(https://i.postimg.cc/rD4Dmz92/IMG-2628.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rD4Dmz92)


So I had to stand with one foot in front of his paws, so the 'ickle' dogs could safely run past on the other side of me.  ::)

Buster's solution to the new kits (Bodie and Doyle) is to jump up on the settee and pretend they don't exist, but they've started to close in on him now.


(https://i.postimg.cc/phHG79sW/IMG-2624.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/phHG79sW)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on July 30, 2019, 08:00:33 AM
Fully understand why the dogs didn't want to try and get past Flash, he's clearly a vicious killer ;)

We need more pics of Bodie and Doyle.....


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on July 30, 2019, 11:03:05 AM
Don't  believe that butter wouldn't melt in my paws look, seen it all before! :D ;)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Nickel2 on July 30, 2019, 10:23:06 PM
Old Flash there looks like my sisters moggy did a few years ago.
Lovely old thing he was and very friendly to everyone, except to the dog who arrived in his territory as a pup.
I was sitting with my sister and her husband in their sitting room, he had his feet up on the dozing dog, that by then was 6 or 7 stone of fat golden lab. The 'lovely' cat, (who had spent the evening sitting on the hall window-sill looking up the road), jumped down and sauntered across the hall floor, then in front of me, went up to the dog and gave him several hard swipes on the nose. Dog squealed and looked up at master for support but was told "just remember your place in this household". The cat went then back to his place in the hall and carried on looking out of the window!  Me and my sister roared with laughter; the cat had forgotten the whole thing within 3 seconds, we still chuckle about it ten years later.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on August 10, 2019, 04:35:43 PM
We need more pics of Bodie and Doyle.....

As requested.

One pic of the new circus act - "Flying Flash & The Four Ginga's"

(Sorry for the mess)


(https://i.postimg.cc/F1v4y93T/IMG-20190809-160800.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1v4y93T)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on August 11, 2019, 02:41:57 PM
 Love it!  ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on August 17, 2019, 02:12:56 PM
Cars, pets, karma and restoring faith in humanity?

So, Wifey got home yesterday morning and showed me a note that was on her car (our car, but don't tell her). It said sorry for the damage and left a phone number. And yes, there was a large white rub mark on the off-side wheel arch, perhaps 50mm x 200mm (2 inch by 8 inch).

But what was interesting was that in different hand writing and different ink, was a description of 'the van' and its registration number.

So we have a look at the damage and it does look pretty bad, but as I rub it with a sponge and pick with my nails, most of the thick white paint comes off. Then I 'af a go at it' with a soft(ish) kitchen sponge/scrubber, and slowly the rest comes off. There is a small shallow dent, perhaps a mm or so deep, but you have to look for it, it's tiny, and our car is 6yrs old, so won't affect its price at all.

So Wifey sends a text to the number, to see if they left a real number, and it's real, and they immediately ask if they can come round, clean it, T-cut, see how bad etc.. But Wifey explains that the damage is trivial, it looked far worse than it was, and not to worry.

Then they ask if they can buy us a bottle of wine, so we suggest they make a small donation to the cat rescue I volunteer at.

And that's when it gets interesting. The accident happened as they were having a bit of a panic as they'd taken their cat to the vet, but it escaped from the car and got lost. They'd tracked it to a house garden, but the homeowners were away and it was locked up.

Wifey suggested they ring the cat charity, mention us, and ask if they can borrow a trap, any advice on catching, and put the cat details on the website.

They did all this, and made a 20 donation, but on returning fully armed with toys, catnip etc, the cat ran and jumped into the car with them.

So, in short, a small accident happened. The people left their details. They left real details, but just in case another person left info for us. They were genuine and as it turned out in need of help, and determined to repay, or pay-forward our handling of the event, and (though they didn't ultimately need it) by being honest they got instant help and support to solve their little disaster too.

There are some right prats in this world, but I still believe that the vast majority of people are nice, kind and honest. And what goes around comes around.

Hope this little story was fun, and just about shoehorned into a pet thread.

Here's to all the nice people out there ..... and their pets.


The only downside now though is that our car has one clean patch, making the rest of the car look dirty. Still I'm sure that patch will muck up soon enough.  ;)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on August 20, 2019, 01:48:37 PM
Mart,

What a wonderful story that reinforces our general faith in humanity.

Ian.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 11, 2019, 08:37:50 AM
So, here's a pick of lovely little Annie a guide dog staying with us for two weeks whilst her owner is on holiday:


(https://i.postimg.cc/CRn612N8/IMG-20191009-093935.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CRn612N8)

Annie is tiny, she can walk (slightly stooped) under Buster, but can hold her own in a game of 'bitey face' and Buster tends to roll on his back to make it fairer. I'm not sure if she is just a very small Lab, or possibly a Working Lab as that breed is a bit more petite.


Now for the depressing bit, that's to say I'm a bit depressed. The lovely Vesper has now moved on from us after 5 months, and his training though delayed is now going strong. If he's withdrawn we will ask to adopt him, but hopefully he'll make it. But he stayed a bit too long and got a bit too deep through our mental armour.

Also, and I shouldn't let it get to me, but the rescue has lost a few cats lately, some older ones that we knew weren't in great health, but coming into contact with more animals, means you lose more animals (perhaps I'm too soft for this  ;) game). But this week pee'd me off - On Monday I turned up for my cleaning shift and amongst the additions were two new boys both 12yrs old. One is a stunning smokey blue fluff ball and incredibly affectionate, it's pen partner is a biggish, light ginger boy who was cowering at the back quite traumatized.

I was told the story that a vet had rung the charity, a lady had passed away and the relatives had taken the four cats to the vet, two 16+ and pretty ill, and the two 12yr olds, pretty healthy, to have them all PTS (put to sleep) ...... well that's nice isn't it!!!!!

So we took the two younger ones (the vet said that PTS was kinder for the other two), and as I said they are adorable. I've been down each day and lay at the back of the pen and fuss the ginger (who is hidden in the far corner), he loves having his head rubbed, and has almost come over to me but is clearly still upset over the dramatic change in his fortunes. We needed names for them, so I've suggested Mango for the light ginger due to his colour and he is so, so sweet, and because the other one is simply adorable and so affectionate, ran with the theme and suggested 'Passion'.

Sorry for the rant, had to get it of my chest, and seriously considering whether I'm cut out for animal volunteering as I let things get to me. There again, the positives outweigh the negatives, and sometimes you just have to suck it up, and get on - plus one pen has 8 kittens in it, which is a madhouse but leaves you smiling, and you can't get that just anywhere.  ;D

PS Annie likes our kits Bodie and Doyle, she pokes them with her nose, and they bop her on the head quite gently. They are already as big as mum (she is a very small queen), and judging by their tails, they will be much bigger than I expected.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Tigger on October 11, 2019, 09:35:11 AM
Mart,

If you're in any way religious then there's a special place waiting for you and you deserve it :)

You're right, the more you're exposed to Pets the more heartache you have to deal with, but ultimately it is all worth it.

Keep up the good work.

Ian.

p.s. note to the moderators, please can you change Mart's handle to St M :)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: todthedog on October 11, 2019, 10:03:07 AM
Mart,
I would like to second Ian, deeply impressed by what you do, I know that my own mental armour would not be strong enough.  I become far to attached to animals to ever let go of a trainee guide dog.  I am sorry to hear that you are going through a down period (hardly surprising) and hope that the rewards that close contact with animals give, can pull you back into the sunshine. Keep it up, your friends here are proud of what you do. ;D


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Philip R on October 11, 2019, 02:15:39 PM
Mart.
Your efforts at the rescue centre make a big difference and the animals you deal with benefit as a result.
It will have its downs but the ups must be highly rearding too.
Philip R.


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: Fintray on October 11, 2019, 02:22:59 PM
 :genuflect


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: M on October 11, 2019, 05:07:38 PM
Thanks guys, sorry for over-sharing this morning, but it's nice to have a place for an occasional emotional escape/release, and know that I can be called a silly prat ..... with affection.

Quick pics:

After Vesper moved to new training, we did have him back for a week whilst the trainer was on holiday - "I think I've got something annoying stuck in my tail!"


(https://i.postimg.cc/w7BnbJvW/IMG-2640.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w7BnbJvW)


And Buster today - "I had this nightmare that I was surrounded by kittens!"


(https://i.postimg.cc/RNrng1Xm/IMG-2664.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RNrng1Xm)


Title: Re: Navipets!
Post by: biff on October 11, 2019, 05:55:59 PM
 Hi Mart
          I second what Tod wrote. You do great work and Mrs Biff and I hold you in very high esteem. It is people like you Mart who make the world a better place.
   Cheers.
       Biff and Mrs Biff