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Title: Goverment cutting electric car subsidies?
Post by: Countrypaul on October 11, 2018, 07:31:53 PM

According to the FT it looks lie the goverment is slashing incentives for electric and hybrid cars:
https://twitter.com/Petercampbell1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1050446203236900864&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Flive%2Fbusiness-45759377

Goverment announcement here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/reformed-plug-in-car-grant-extended-into-next-decade


Title: Re: Goverment cutting electric car subsidies?
Post by: JohnS on October 11, 2018, 08:40:06 PM
Frankly this makes sense.

Best to stop giving grants to PHEVs with low range and direct them to BEVs.

I appreciate that I benefited from the grant for my Outlander, but I was an early adopter who helped to get the critical mass going.  Same with my PV install in March 2010.  I would have saved a lot if I had delayed it to near the end of the initial 40p + rate.

It is good to see the government learning from past mistakes in keeping grants too high for too long.


Title: Re: Goverment cutting electric car subsidies?
Post by: MeatyFool on October 12, 2018, 03:10:26 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45831150

Bless Ďem!  Like little children having their toys taken away!

So instead of providing full on BEVs to achieve what the planet needs, they decided to go PHEV to sweat their existing assets and cover their own bottom line.

Tough.  Good call by the government.

Unfortunately, Jo Public will jut read this the way big auto wants them too - entirely the opposite.

Meatyfool..


Title: Re: Goverment cutting electric car subsidies?
Post by: azps on October 12, 2018, 06:48:48 AM
Frankly this makes sense.

Best to stop giving grants to PHEVs with low range and direct them to BEVs.

Cutting grants to hybrids makes sense. Actually, giving them grants in the first place never made sense: BEVs are not an evolution of PHEVs: PHEVs are a technological dead-end.

However, reducing the grant for BEVs, when there's only been 60,000 BEV grants made, is premature and foolish.


Title: Re: Goverment cutting electric car subsidies?
Post by: kristen on October 12, 2018, 06:59:23 AM
They should be taxing the CO2 on Fossil Fuels to drive customers towards BEV.  High mileage drivers would move first, and they are presumably? the bigger polluters.

I'm not contributing anything by way of Road Tax / Fuel Tax to roads budget. Electric vs. Petrol is a saving of nearly £150 a month for each 10,000 miles driven annually.


Title: Re: Goverment cutting electric car subsidies?
Post by: GarethC on October 12, 2018, 07:30:23 AM
Ahem... Range extenders still qualify 😁

OK with removing PHEV grant, but think that should have been accompanied by an increase in BEV grant, or at least not a cut.


Title: Re: Goverment cutting electric car subsidies?
Post by: dan_b on October 12, 2018, 08:25:36 AM
Just a thought - does this impact on the London Black Cab?  Thatís been fairly criticised for its high purchase price and relatively low battery range - if it loses the grant subsidy I imagine itíll hit uptake prettt hard? 


Title: Re: Goverment cutting electric car subsidies?
Post by: Westie on October 12, 2018, 08:34:36 AM
Just a thought - does this impact on the London Black Cab?  Thatís been fairly criticised for its high purchase price and relatively low battery range - if it loses the grant subsidy I imagine itíll hit uptake prettt hard? 

There's a new catagory 1 Taxi definition and the TX is the only vehicle in it at the moment.

I can imagine that Geely had that arrangement sorted before they ever set shop here!

Category 1 taxis

These vehicles are purpose-built taxis and have CO2 emissions of less than 50g/km and can travel at least 112km (70 miles) without any CO2 emissions at all:

LEVC TX
The grant will pay for 20% of the purchase price for these vehicles, up to a maximum of £7,500.