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Title: Sad story
Post by: dickster on June 30, 2020, 10:48:45 AM
Our first trip from New Forest to Oxford in our MGZS EV. 86 miles =172 total.

With around 140 usable miles, we needed to charge somewhere (for the first time), best done as we near Oxford.

Zap mapped our Ecotricity or Genie Point chargers, then looked at them individually. There was only Genie Point that would do us a CCS rapid charge listed as working just out of Oxford, not willing to risk all on a single charger.

Ecotricity would have taken around 4 hours on AC (MG only has a 7kW charger AC), but this didn't suit our family get together picnic and most of the chargers were listed as out of order.

Took the Duster Dacia. Ouch!

Never mind, I've done 3,500 clean miles to work and back thus far and in a few more years maybe it'll be better.



Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: pantsmachine on June 30, 2020, 11:04:02 AM
That's is sad, it'll only improve post covid repairs and thru network growth. First arsehole parked in a charging space for EV with ICE yesterday. I don't think much of humanity in general but sometimes eh? :)

On the upside Black Betty found a carpark buddy today!
(https://i.postimg.cc/87Y9nmSK/20200630-110753.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/87Y9nmSK)


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: dan_b on June 30, 2020, 11:16:59 AM
Was the Ecotricity pump not a CCS one - that would have been an option? Or was it out of service?


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: brackwell on June 30, 2020, 11:41:24 AM
Prefer Instavolt but Polar are quite good and usually have contactless on rapids, Harvester at Didcot?

Anyway it was not the time to be adventurous with family in tow and a family gathering to get to.  Another time with a bit more experience under your belt this would not be a problem.


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: JohnS on June 30, 2020, 12:15:58 PM
Ecotricity's Electric Highway is useless.  Their reliability is a joke.  It is time that they were stripped of their monopoly at motorway service stations and/or sold the business to a decent provider.


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: brackwell on June 30, 2020, 12:31:34 PM
How very true. Can one imagine what it would be like if Ecoticity were ousted.  It would be transformational is a complete understatement.


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: bleem2k on June 30, 2020, 01:16:59 PM
I know the feeling - unfortunately my better half ended up with a combination of range loss, broken chargers and finally turtle mode.. not best pleased!

There are rays of hope on the horizon tho.. I'm just looking at our usual pilgrimage to North Devon, provided the locals let us in, it seems that both Polar and a new network (Swarco?) have been expanding on the A303... certainly looks a much 'safer' journey than previously.


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: dickster on June 30, 2020, 03:02:16 PM
I think the other Ecotricity is Chadamo DC and MG has only CCS 50kW DC or AC 7kW.


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: JohnS on June 30, 2020, 07:07:33 PM
Ecotricity's Electric Highway has both CCS and Chademo.  Not sure if all sites have both, but if they don't work, it makes no difference.


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: Philip R on June 30, 2020, 07:19:56 PM
Pantsmachine,

Stop throwing stones in greenhouses, Calling people names when they take a charging space if not using it.

From your picture , you have parked the car selfishly yourself, worthy of an SUV or 4X$ owner!!  Parking across the white lines even if the carpark was empty.
Philip R


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: pantsmachine on June 30, 2020, 07:35:29 PM
Ehm Phil, it's only for the photo opportunity with another EV. I very neatly parked afterwards. This would be 30 secs after photo. Slightly different to the ICE charge blocker who had left their car in a EV slot the day before  Not the same in my mind at all.  

Ah wait, the photo is not related to the ICE blocker or are you just having a go?

As far as I'm concerned, anybody who dumps their ICE in a EV charging space is a selfish thoughtless arsehole. I am open to debate in how this is not the case Phil? I'd think the same of someone who used a parent/toddler or handicapped space when not qualified to. Would you not? Are you one of those who find it acceptable to leave EVs ICE'd, surely not? Where is this glasshouse you speak of?


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: Philip R on June 30, 2020, 08:12:26 PM
Pantsmachine,
OK  photo shot. quick out the car take pic and move to park normally. That is fine, no problem.

I have problem with bad car park etiquette too. In Cheshire . it is a mixture of fat women, young and middle aged with few manners, young Mums with 4WD and SUVs and other low lifes who seem ever more present in our society. Very sad.

I do drive an EV but have also seen ICE drivers park in the charger bays which I do not condone.



Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: pantsmachine on June 30, 2020, 09:10:03 PM
Phil, none of that's me and i'm with the greatest of respect not seeking car parking approval. Appreciate the chat though and I can see where you are coming from. :)

I brought up the ev charging slot blocking by ICE earlier as it's the same outcome as a charger being out of order as per OP?

I also came back today to see an EV parked in the 2nd bay of a 2 bay station and not even plugged in. Which just goes to show that arseholery of the selfish variety is not restricted to ICE but widespread across humanity.

I'm just not a fan of it. As previously stated I don't think much of humanity. EV ownership is allowing me to see more of what I don't like, re selfish nature of a percentage.

Love the car though! :)


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: dan_b on June 30, 2020, 09:58:33 PM
Me at Costco this evening


(https://i.postimg.cc/tnZ4C7Xk/1-F541-A79-AECA-4-A90-8-C7-A-B2-D671-F7-E919.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tnZ4C7Xk)


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: biff on June 30, 2020, 10:09:07 PM
     It's got a big battery charger on board



(https://i.postimg.cc/CRHP6NjC/IMG-20200629-WA0001.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CRHP6NjC)
     Biff
  It is not very green you know, The paintwork was just the same when it drove out of the factory. I sed  son, that ain't  a very green car at all and he said Grandad would like it..


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: Philip R on July 01, 2020, 01:21:29 PM
DanB
Do Costco have electric car chargers. I have not seen any at Birmingham,(many rats though in the car park verges) Chester or Trafford Park outlets. Their roof areas are vast, could generate a load of PV electricity. Saying that, at the T Park site, the other week, the roof collapsed during a rainstorm and flooded the shopfloor!
PhilipR


Title: Re: Sad story
Post by: dan_b on July 01, 2020, 01:31:34 PM
So at my nearest Costco they have 16 EV chargers - all 7kW points and free to use for members.  The only annoyance is you have to go ask the chaps in the tyre shop to activate/ unlock the charge points each time - you canít just rock up and do it yourself. 

I Can usually get 5-7kWh into the car during a normal visit.