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Title: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: MR GUS on July 29, 2020, 04:17:07 PM
Have been D.E shaving for some years now (after tearing my face apart since I was a yoof with the crud that is the Mach 3 ...a pack of four used to last me a good year or two ..not because of bumfluff, but because of determination).

Came to a head when DE blades & razors became easier to find (thankyou internet) ..& plastic fatigue my mach 3 razor units dies from age which was a relief as I spent more time in winter removing hair from the naff blades with a cocktail stick than actually shaving.

Since then have always travelled with my DE, soap & brush & been happy with it.

Problem is that I am due to fly to Germany tomorrow with hand luggage only, ..obviously A DE is on the "no-fly" prohibited list, ..so have ended up with a pound shop type mach3 clone for travelling ...you cannot imagine the withering stare I gave the damned thing as a step back into waste plastic landfill potential i've been trying to avoid..

Any of you good folk know of a friendlier version with a universal type fitting for travelling that is acceptable (metal or bamboo type construction) for future travel
"requirements"?

I'd rather not shave at all in these situations unless it is a minimalist DE blade going back to recycling (slowly) , but circumstances oft necessitate it.

Yes, it may seem trivial compared to the travel itself, but you've got to work from all angles.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: smegal on July 29, 2020, 04:55:54 PM
Have been D.E shaving for some years now (after tearing my face apart since I was a yoof with the crud that is the Mach 3 ...a pack of four used to last me a good year or two ..not because of bumfluff, but because of determination).

Came to a head when DE blades & razors became easier to find (thankyou internet) ..& plastic fatigue my mach 3 razor units dies from age which was a relief as I spent more time in winter removing hair from the naff blades with a cocktail stick than actually shaving.

Since then have always travelled with my DE, soap & brush & been happy with it.

Problem is that I am due to fly to Germany tomorrow with hand luggage only, ..obviously A DE is on the "no-fly" prohibited list, ..so have ended up with a pound shop type mach3 clone for travelling ...you cannot imagine the withering stare I gave the damned thing as a step back into waste plastic landfill potential i've been trying to avoid..

Any of you good folk know of a friendlier version with a universal type fitting for travelling that is acceptable (metal or bamboo type construction) for future travel
"requirements"?

I'd rather not shave at all in these situations unless it is a minimalist DE blade going back to recycling (slowly) , but circumstances oft necessitate it.

Yes, it may seem trivial compared to the travel itself, but you've got to work from all angles.

What about a cheap DE handle (maybe even plastic) and then buy blades in a local chemist. I'd be surprised if DE blades aren't in chemists the world over. I'd just not risk a nice handle in case airport security got too excitable.

Places like Boots used to sell these (the current boots website doesn't unfortunately)

https://www.thegiftandgadgetstore.com/product/wilkinson-sword-classic-shaver-double-edge-razor-5-blades/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwvIT5BRCqARIsAAwwD-Q4GTIHihy0Xr_amHOyzsuIq7IALGEfp8g-6V5rkR2OPfK-xmMyBe8aAslGEALw_wcB


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: TT on July 29, 2020, 05:51:37 PM
So what’s DE?


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: Fintray on July 29, 2020, 06:08:27 PM
So what’s DE?

As in sword.  :fight

It got me as well till I saw blades.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: MR GUS on July 29, 2020, 07:03:42 PM
Ha ha, clearly i'm not the youngest here anymore!  :crossed

Smegal, that was my initial thought until I remembered why I favoured one brand of blades over another & why I have some 14 blade varieties "sitting" unused because they are not right for my face nor my skin. .likely you'd slash yourself badly using something else, fatal in cold weather, merely gruesome in summer!

I was lucky enough to find Astra (green box) pretty early on, but by that time had accumulated 100 BLUE astra ..the difference is chalk & cheese in the same razor.

Anyone wishing to try a DE & reduce their plastic waste (& save money) the Merkur s & the Jaggers at the low end (one currently about £15 on the big river).

It is a learning (cutting) curve & an alum stick may be your friend for a while, however I take no longer to shave than when I did in the old days with superior results & a closer shave, Arko soap for "cheap" but my main travel soap is a palmolive stick remnant whilst I use Proraso at home when it is on a deal  ..v. good & frugal in requirements for a good shave.

The other option is to post a blade to your hotel but I've only just thought of that (too late).

The plastic one is allowed on a plane, as is a metal one but not the blade, so you may as well take your favourite pre-existing razor regardless ...the blades is where you really become a cropper.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: Pat_ on July 29, 2020, 07:22:28 PM
Assuming we're talking about the same thing (I have always called them safety razors). I have always been buying mine on holiday in Germany. In the supermarket called Edeka. I've never failed to find them there.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: MR GUS on July 29, 2020, 09:11:58 PM
Assuming we're talking about the same thing (I have always called them safety razors). I have always been buying mine on holiday in Germany. In the supermarket called Edeka. I've never failed to find them there.

Which brands blades have you commonly found there? ..cheers


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: kdmnx on July 30, 2020, 05:33:08 AM
I switched to a “shavette” years ago. Saves money, saves plastic, gives a nice shave, feels badass.

When traveling I put it in the hold and have never had a problem. If traveling handbaggage only I skip shaving for a few days.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: MR GUS on July 30, 2020, 08:39:50 AM
I switched to a “shavette” years ago. Saves money, saves plastic, gives a nice shave, feels badass.

When traveling I put it in the hold and have never had a problem. If traveling handbaggage only I skip shaving for a few days.

That's the thing, you are nigh on forced to revert to plastic (AND getting a really bad shave) at risk of slashing your face to hell with an unfamiliar DE (of which you then have to buy a pack of 5 typically when away ...having sourced it, ..too much money in the triple blade muck-cartridges for the companies to care.

Shame there isn't a barber network for razor blades, i'd pay a euro for a single decent blade if I could just access it by a walk through town in the big cities ..I don't want a turkish shave, just a blade.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: Pile-o-stone on July 30, 2020, 09:00:04 AM
I didn't realise that safety razors were banned on flights. I had to check online just now to make sure. I've been travelling with my safety razor for years now and I only had one comment from a customs guy in Amsterdam airport who saw it in its travel case and asked what it was. He looked impressed when I opened it up (it's a really attractive white porcelain and stainless steel affair) and said 'Woah, old school" with a laugh.

Looks like I'll have to buy an electric travel one for when I next fly.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: MR GUS on July 30, 2020, 09:10:28 AM
You give me hope, but i'm also very honest, so simply carrying one for my benefit is out of the question.
I can't feign ignorance of the rules & have already been "stiffed" with a criminal record for something I didn't do, so knowing my luck, hard questioning & delay.
That & I don't react well to often rude heavy handed officialdom, if they put their necks out I tend to come back at them, never good at an airport.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: Pat_ on July 30, 2020, 10:35:52 AM
Just Wilkinson at Edeka...


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: MR GUS on July 30, 2020, 12:58:31 PM
Thanks, tempted to give it a go. ..alum stick at the ready.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: Philip R on July 30, 2020, 05:02:15 PM
When I went away on business I stuck my baggage in the hold so no problem.
Safety razor blades can be purchased in Sainsburys under their own brand. Made in Vietnam. Used to use the Boots label own brand. Pack of ten lasted for years, mind you, I did dress the blade up on a very fine Arkansas oilstone, seemed to worked ok, if a tad scratchier than a brand new one. Never tried wiping it against a piece of leather like you are supposed to do with a cut throat razor.

Every brand of blade is subtley different in its dimensions and blade edge detail. Every safety razor is different along with peoples stubly chins, so what works well for someone is not good to someone else.

What is a Turkish shave? Is that like a modern day Sweeney Tod barbers / pie shop German Style. Instead of pies they make bierwurst.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: MR GUS on July 30, 2020, 05:26:22 PM


What is a Turkish shave? Is that like a modern day Sweeney Tod barbers / pie shop German Style. Instead of pies they make bierwurst.


It is £30 to stick your luggage in the hold (B.A) ..I have it for the return journey as i'm hopefully bringing some Ovomaltine crunchy spread back.

The Turkish shave? ..well they are back & setting up all over it seems, ..as per this video 26 minutes of uncomfortable & unnecessary faff for lots of money, shave, ear candles, lighter, hot towel & moisturiser
https ://youtu.be/2kXdX6vUerk


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: TT on July 30, 2020, 11:08:03 PM
Just buy something in Germany
Save a load of hassle


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: MR GUS on July 30, 2020, 11:37:20 PM
Just buy something in Germany
Save a load of hassle

Last time I did that the plastic became old & fragile, used infrequently ...& too weak to shave with, ..it was a complete waste of time, money & storage.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: titan on July 31, 2020, 11:47:26 AM
How do you manage to " risk  slashing your face to hell with an unfamiliar DE " they are called safety razors. I have tried dozens of blades and found the quality of the shave may vary as does how long they last but never any that cut you. Incidently I find that the Japanese Feather brand give the best shave. I was using open razors for a while, something nice about restoring a blade made in 1826 and getting a decent shave with it but that doesn't help with your flight problem.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: TT on July 31, 2020, 01:21:02 PM
Just buy something in Germany
Save a load of hassle

Last time I did that the plastic became old & fragile, used infrequently ...& too weak to shave with, ..it was a complete waste of time, money & storage.

No I mean buy something in Germany and leave it there when you are finished.
If travel regulation means you can’t take your own, buy something there, live with the fact it’s not as good as the one at home and rejoice when you get home and get back to a better shaver.
No need to make a big deal about it eh.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: kdmnx on July 31, 2020, 04:25:47 PM
I thought the “Feather” branded blades came in plastic packaging? I use “Shark” branded blades but haven’t experimented with others.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: desperate on July 31, 2020, 07:01:00 PM
Beard??

Desp?


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: titan on July 31, 2020, 08:08:39 PM
I thought the “Feather” branded blades came in plastic packaging? I use “Shark” branded blades but haven’t experimented with others.

The ones I use come in exactly the same packaging as every other make of blades, ie. a 5 blade plastic dispenser with each blade individually paper wrapped.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: kdmnx on August 01, 2020, 06:51:43 AM
I thought the “Feather” branded blades came in plastic packaging? I use “Shark” branded blades but haven’t experimented with others.

The ones I use come in exactly the same packaging as every other make of blades, ie. a 5 blade plastic dispenser with each blade individually paper wrapped.

You should avoid the ones that come in a plastic dispenser, go for the ones that come in a cardboard box (individually wrapped in greaseproof).


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: smegal on August 01, 2020, 09:18:20 AM
I thought the “Feather” branded blades came in plastic packaging? I use “Shark” branded blades but haven’t experimented with others.

The ones I use come in exactly the same packaging as every other make of blades, ie. a 5 blade plastic dispenser with each blade individually paper wrapped.

You should avoid the ones that come in a plastic dispenser, go for the ones that come in a cardboard box (individually wrapped in greaseproof).

The dispensers double us as used blade storage.

Using a DE is already reducing plastic. if a preferred blade comes in plastic, so be it.

I like permasharp blades that are in card, but if someone likes Feathers then that's up to them.


Title: Re: D.E. plane ban: forced back to plastic in air travel .. any work-arounds?
Post by: kdmnx on August 01, 2020, 10:04:26 AM
I thought the “Feather” branded blades came in plastic packaging? I use “Shark” branded blades but haven’t experimented with others.

The ones I use come in exactly the same packaging as every other make of blades, ie. a 5 blade plastic dispenser with each blade individually paper wrapped.

You should avoid the ones that come in a plastic dispenser, go for the ones that come in a cardboard box (individually wrapped in greaseproof).

Best to avoid plastic packaging where possible though...

The dispensers double us as used blade storage.

Using a DE is already reducing plastic. if a preferred blade comes in plastic, so be it.

I like permasharp blades that are in card, but if someone likes Feathers then that's up to them.