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Author Topic: Are any suppliers offering to accept off griders yet?  (Read 3079 times)
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« on: March 25, 2010, 08:37:02 PM »

Does anyone know of any supplier that is willing / able to accept off griders for FIT payments yet?

I think for off griders this might be the stumbling block.
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2010, 05:14:30 PM »

I think that Good Energy will be doing so but its still not clear on their web site yet.

What is clear is that they will be paying more than the 3p per kWh for exported power.

They are saying 15p. Subject to conditions

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What payments existing microgenerators are entitled to
Microgenerators that had applied for accreditation under the RO before 15 July 2009 will be entitled to just 9p for total generation and 3p for exported units. Good Energy thinks it is extremely unfair that these pioneers are being excluded from the full benefits the FiT offers. Good Energy is working to get a better deal for you, and in the meantime has pledged to continue paying up to 15p per unit to all accredited HomeGen customers that signed up to Good Energy’s HomeGen scheme before 4th February 2010.
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2010, 06:23:26 PM »

How do off-griders export ? ? ? ?
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2010, 10:38:39 PM »

How do off-griders export ? ? ? ?

They dont but that can still get FIT's on the total generated & can get payments for each unit used (or could under ROC's).
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2010, 05:48:24 PM »

Well as none of the other suppliers seem to be offering (yet) a deal for off gridders I have filled the paper work in to sign up to GoodEnergy.
Unless some thing happens between now & posting it its a done deal.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2010, 07:04:14 PM »

you may find the new payment system only applies to new installations as our government has ignored anyone who has an existing system from the new higher rates.

if you ring good energy, they're always helpful, unlike the big boys who'll pass you around their system and still leave you without an answer!
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2010, 08:12:21 PM »

you may find the new payment system only applies to new installations as our government has ignored anyone who has an existing system from the new higher rates.



I guess that you have not read much of this forum yet?

There was a small window for people that had non MCS installs to transfer from ROC's to FIT's.

It was not in the first draft of info but after much work by a few people (you know who you are so thank you) they opened up a gap for people to use to get the new FIT's.

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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2010, 10:35:42 AM »

Does anyone know of any supplier that is willing / able to accept off griders for FIT payments yet?
I might be missing something, but my reading of the FiT documents (the Government Response to the Consultation one, that is) is that you can simply approach any mandatory FiT supplier (i.e. any big electricity company) and they are legally required to take you.

I quote from the Response document:

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54. We also confirm that off-grid generators will receive a generation tariff. Like
on-site generators, they will also receive benefits from avoiding the cost of
generating electricity by other means, e.g. diesel.

55. As off-grid generators do not have a direct relationship with a supplier they
will have the right to approach any mandatory FITs supplier, who will be
required to pay their FITs
. Voluntary FITs suppliers may also agree to
provide FITs to off-grid generators.
(my emphasis)

I just had a look at E.on's FiT application form (http://www.eonenergy.com/NR/rdonlyres/042AEB55-6474-421A-BF18-BC6042CD4394/0/FITApplicationForm.pdf) and from what it looks like to me this form would work for off-grid se, too. Specifically, the section dealing with grid connection simply says

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Section 8
Import supply (If you do not receive a mains electricity supply at the generation site, please skip this section)

So to me that suggests they'll take you if you're off-grid...

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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2010, 08:52:01 PM »

I did see the bit about the major suppliers having to take everyone.

Personally I would rather use someone that wanted to do it than had to do it. But if they have better offers then I am all ears. I think that GoodEnergy will carry on with the offgrid payments for what you use as well. Before the fits that would not have been worth it as the management fee was nearly as much as the payment would have been.
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