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« Reply #60 on: July 13, 2011, 10:41:28 AM »

The 50% deemed export is written into the FiTs legislation so it is not within the suppliers' power to vary it.
I thought that was the minumum that must be paid and don't Green Energy pay slightly more?
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« Reply #61 on: July 13, 2011, 11:22:12 AM »



I have checked with Green Energy 0800783 8851 and their rates seem standard, at least  for this postcode Fixed 14p/day + 13.76 unit day, 6.59 night. 3.1p export 43.3 fit. wef 1/5/11 Pale Green tariff.
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« Reply #62 on: July 13, 2011, 12:14:22 PM »

Minimum or maximum are not mentioned. It just says "50%".

But I guess any business is allowed to give away free money if it wants to.
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« Reply #63 on: July 13, 2011, 02:06:09 PM »

Maybe it was the same as cj states but when I was initially looking at who to sign my FIT's up with (and get an export meter), I'm was sure that I'd get more export money from Good Energy but that was probably before they took off their annual meter charge?

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« Reply #64 on: July 13, 2011, 09:52:12 PM »

Jusr a quick thought: does anybody knows whether the electricity companies made any representation during the FIT consultation about meters potentially running backwards and its consequences? Because they knew what was coming.

Also, most companies will charge for an export meter to be fitted so we generally accept the 50% rule. But from what it seems, aren't PV "users" exporting more than 50% on average?
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« Reply #65 on: July 13, 2011, 10:29:40 PM »

Kombi
See the old post from Alan on page 1
http://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php/topic,13761.msg154534.html#msg154534
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« Reply #66 on: July 14, 2011, 07:38:14 AM »

Thanks Don,

I had seen the post and even still remembers it. But it does not answer my question about representations from the electricity companies with regards to the issue of meters running potentially backwards.

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« Reply #67 on: July 14, 2011, 10:41:29 AM »

Sunday Times Money section 10/7/11 reported that the Energy Saving Trust has cut its estimate of electricity saved when a solar power system is installed from 50% to nearer 25%  because "most people do not spend enough time at home during the day".
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« Reply #68 on: July 14, 2011, 11:10:17 AM »

Thanks Don,

I had seen the post and even still remembers it. But it does not answer my question about representations from the electricity companies with regards to the issue of meters running potentially backwards.

Nicolas

I've skimmed through all the responses. I can't find anything specifically about backwards running meters although metering accuracy crops up quite a few times as well as plenty about the poor timing related to the introduction of SmartMeters.

The suppliers replies were channelled through the AEP - the Association of Electricity Producers.
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« Reply #69 on: July 14, 2011, 07:38:56 PM »

Thanks Ted. So it looks to me as if the suppliers have mostly volontary ignored the issue...Difficult then to try to claim for potential loss of income...
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« Reply #70 on: August 11, 2011, 09:21:26 PM »

Sorry to open this one up again but can anyone clarify that a backwards spinning, rotating mechanical meter spins back at the same rate as it spins forward or is it slower going against the ratchet etc?
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« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2011, 11:23:48 PM »

Sorry to open this one up again but can anyone clarify that a backwards spinning, rotating mechanical meter spins back at the same rate as it spins forward or is it slower going against the ratchet etc?

It can't (?!?) go against the ratchet. If it has one, it will only go slightly back, if at all.

So in theory I would expect it to go back at same rate, but it is not calibrated or certified for billing accuracy.
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« Reply #72 on: August 12, 2011, 11:46:45 PM »

Sorry to open this one up again but can anyone clarify that a backwards spinning, rotating mechanical meter spins back at the same rate as it spins forward or is it slower going against the ratchet etc?

It can't (?!?) go against the ratchet. If it has one, it will only go slightly back, if at all.

So in theory I would expect it to go back at same rate, but it is not calibrated or certified for billing accuracy.

Yes, I agree, just wondered if there was any mechanical resistance to it reversing as I'm trying to equate the generation meter reading with house consumption.
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« Reply #73 on: August 13, 2011, 09:25:28 AM »

My meter spins backwards, it is proportional to the amount generated, been doing that for 8 months

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