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« on: December 03, 2013, 07:03:08 PM »

Ok, I need to purchase a flue gas analyser.  What are you guys running?  I am happy enough to drop a few quid on this as it is a necessary tool.  

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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2013, 07:32:32 PM »

Hallo Brandon,

I use a Kane 504, basic model without all the extras like printer,  recharger and what-not. Corgi are knocking them out for about 275 IIRC. Seems to work just as well as my last one, a 455 kit  but about half the price Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2013, 08:26:46 AM »

i need one to take the high co of biomass.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2013, 01:06:15 PM »

Brandon, I'm out of touch with it all now but I sold these www.testolimited.com/c/108/flue-gas for a while and the customers were always pleased with them. What CO concentrations are you expecting?
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2013, 11:14:38 PM »

Elanor,

I was looking at the Testo units.

On the CO front, the killer can be that a faulty biomass boiler can get really quite high and fry the sensors, and that becomes a dear old game.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2013, 12:55:59 AM »

I have a Anton Sprint V2 for my gas and oil work. It can read upto 10000 ppm CO (1 % V/V).

It has test ranges for biomass too.

Excess CO can kill a CO cell or certainly cause it to go overrange. The instrument instructions indicate that it must then be purged in clean air to allow the cell to recover before turning instrument off. Otherwise, back to the repair shop for a CO cell refit.

I do not know what the Kanes, Testos or TPIs are capable of regarding max CO before overrange / cell death?

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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2013, 05:49:06 AM »

Just checked the spec of my kanes, the 504 is rated at 2000ppm and the 455 is the same but up to 4000 for 15 minutes, They also quote the 455 as being suitable for wood pellets.

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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2013, 08:52:17 PM »

thanks for all this guys, it all helps, just bloomin' lack of time at this time of year not really helping the search... hey ho Christmas soon.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2013, 12:13:08 AM »

Brandon, I'd ring a couple of suppliers and talk to them about your application. Electrochemical cells are always going to be susceptible to over range or interference and I prefer other measuring technologies but they are generally more expensive and often too cumbersome for portable analysers. I think that with Testo being a German company they should have some experience with biomass boilers?
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2013, 10:59:53 PM »

thanks elanor.

my to do list has exactly that on it for tomorrow...  of joy.  there are several units running 10000ppm sensors that ought to be good to go.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2014, 07:09:28 PM »

Hi Brandon, if I could add my view.
Avoid Testo. I have the 327 full kit as pts were big fans of them a few years ago and wound one into me even though ot was more expensive than the rest they did. I've had a lot of issues with it getting through 02 cells and currently it is throwing up odd low 02 cell readings again after having been calibrated and re-celled in the autumn at 120. I'm wasn't happy that it was calibrated correctly as when i was servicing boilers in the autumn i was getting vastly different temp readings from previous years on boilers I've looked after for a good few years. So back it went. The only good thing was that pts had about 3 or 4 trade ins/loaners so i wasn't without one. (you might get a cheap one if you go to a pts branch that does controls and spares)
Every time I go to get it sent back the parts guy whinges at having to deal with testo as they are, in his words, "a nightmare".
When I replace it i'll get anton i think as when i was renewing my oftec last year i got to play with the latest of theirs and was impressed. Also, out of 20 blokes on the course, most had anton and i was the only one with a testo. The testo feels and looks like quality piece of kit and comes with a really good case but i have not been happy with mine

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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2014, 04:14:07 PM »

I'm looking for the same - a FGA with a high CO sensor!

After doing some reading and speaking to various technical departments, I've narrowed it down to two models:
Testo 330-2 LL (1,229.00)
TPI 716 (431.00) with the High CO Upgrade option (90.00)

CO Readings
Testo - 8,000ppm; CO measurement with automatic dilution (display up to 30,000 ppm)
TPI - 10,000ppm (Std CO cell); 100,000 ppm (High CO Upgrade)

Running costs
Testo - 5 yr warranty (subject to annual service @ 69.95)
TPI - 6 yr warranty (subject to annual service @ 77.95)

Both have live data logging via a PC.

The TPI ticks all the boxes for me. The Testo 330-2 LL is top of the range but comes with a price tag to match.

Prices quoted subject to change & exclude VAT!

 
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2014, 10:44:23 PM »

Blimey, Testo have changed their warranty and by the look of those service costs i'll have to give the guys who send mine off annually (and every other time) a talking to as it has never cost less than 100.
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2014, 10:54:39 PM »

The 5 year analyser/cell warranty is for this model only - the LL is for Long Life sensors, which claim to have up to 6 year lifespan. The calibration price was taken from JMW Ltd website.
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2014, 08:43:19 PM »

I went with the TPI too. good unit. does all I want at the right price.
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