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Author Topic: Fork Lift batteries -worth buying?  (Read 18002 times)
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« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2008, 08:23:31 PM »

frank

 i do have  a 6 kw inverter combined 140 A charger at 24 volts  that is feeded by a kipor , yanmar  ac generator and a pv array


 i just need two generators because on can fail  and i know this for fact  


from the start i should have got a real good one   to rellay on but monney wise i did it wrong,,,


so spended about 2000 pounds (or is it punts ?)allready on cr*p generators in one year  weather it was the headgascet or the generator ..... cheap buys



the kipor unit is ok and runs on an automated  systhem so pretty relaxed  


My max Ampere DC drom a AC generator will be 140 A  because of my ac/DC (highwaytohellunit)   but if i have the time and the balls id like to build a dc generator and think for that battery i can go 150 A or even 300 A  

the higher the A the easier is to find a watercooled engine  under 10 HP  its tricky under 20 HP more easy  

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« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2008, 08:30:04 PM »

       Have you looked at the deisel engines used in concrete mixers? I understand they go on for years with virtually no maintenance, have a single cylinder - I think around 500CC, and are I believe in the right power range. It should be possible to link one with a vehicle alternator.
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« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2008, 08:33:25 PM »

Billi, 'Punts' were Irish 'Pounds' pre Euro currency
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« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2008, 08:33:53 PM »

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i did try a few ebay auctions (too days ago a similar batterry went on ebay for 360 sterling)  i was just 5 pounds short

Thanks Billy, so it was you bidding against me!!!! Smiley
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« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2008, 08:35:49 PM »

shay shipping cost are about 400 euros per sqaremeter  in lorry from germany  upto 2,5 meters high


i wouldnot bodder with ups batteries only they are a bargain


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« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2008, 08:43:03 PM »

billi

i see, ideally you could use the kipor as a standby and a setup like frotter,s as the main genny (he gets 65a @ 48v so you could get 130a @ 24v) and you would get hot water too   Grin

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« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2008, 08:46:34 PM »

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Billi, 'Punts' were Irish 'Pounds' pre Euro currency

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now i know and learn   for a german like me it was allways similar to pints  Tongue Tongue Tongue


have learned  now Grin Grin


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Thanks Billy, so it was you bidding against me!!!!


iam happy not have to drive to england now with my trailor


i know about diesel mixers and have good  contacts for lister engines now

iam just waiting for a watercooled idea


cheers billi




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« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2008, 09:22:54 PM »


 Mmmmmm... Kubota....!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/kubota-d722-engine-mini-digger-generator_W0QQitemZ200198153700QQihZ010QQcategoryZ64810QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KUBOTA-ENGINE-2-3-and-4-cylinder-bench-run-and-tested_W0QQitemZ290204620778QQihZ019QQcategoryZ95493QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2008, 09:33:15 PM »

cheers frotter

i like kubota engines   my little 3.5 ton digger is called Frida (name of mother in law   Tongue )


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like this mother...

http://www.ecycle.com/docs/KubotaAPU.pdf
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« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2008, 09:58:36 PM »

MMMMMMMMMMMMMM kubota  Grin

great engines for boats, diggers and welders but will it still be powering you house in 30 years Huh

LISTER, thump, LISTER, thump, LISTER, thump LISTER  Cool

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« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2008, 06:29:07 AM »

I have a Fiat three pot industrial in my main "Genny".  It has one or two problems but seems to go on and on.

"Jafa" (large orange Howard rotovator) is powered by a Hatz - very nice engine.

My Mayfield (scythe, barrow, aux genny, hay lift and anything else I can turn it into) is powered by a Changfa, a copy of the Yanmar L70 I think.

The water pump, just known as "Pump" has a Suntom, another copy of the Yanmar L70 I think.

And last but by no means least I have "Beton", my concrete mixer.  She has a Lister and was built in 1971.  I suspect that she will be turning when all the others have gone to the scrap yard in the sky.
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« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2008, 11:38:16 AM »

"Jafa" (large orange Howard rotovator) is powered by a Hatz - very nice engine.

 That brings back memories... Trying to start a "Howard Jem" on a cold frosty morning.. One guy on the the transmision starter handle & one on the direct engine starter... Great way to warm yourselves up... laugh

 Lovely tool to use... modern wheel drivens are far too light.. The "Jem" just needs light guidance & loose wrists.. They used to do a set of disk harrows with a seat on to tow behind... never got to use one, but that must have been rotavating heaven... Grin

 Sorry I went OT there... Must be me getting older... I'm developing a love of cardigans & already starting to tell people my age... laugh
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« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2008, 02:23:56 PM »

another off topic reminiscence  Roll Eyes
an old friend was cranking an old drott 1 cyl caterpillar plough (jockey wheel on a scroll decompressor, 2 man crank handle) and his  mate bottled it just when the jockey wheel dropped !
he woke up in hospital, with a broken jaw  Shocked
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« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2008, 02:44:29 PM »

  Shocked... I've seen the over prehensile thumbs after a kick-back... But just one word for that ...Ouch...  Lips Sealed

 Sorry OT again... Embarrassed
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« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2008, 09:05:11 PM »

ok back to the point about batteries   

and forgett the point about my engine is better then yours,,,,,




 sow how to charge the fork lift battery at what amperage idealy   ?   a lister is an engine not.. not a god of alternator ...


so any idea beside the horse thats driving the charger ?
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