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« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2018, 03:46:52 PM »

From what I know of Quentin & dealings I've had with him, when pressed, he sells you what you want, not what he has on the shelf.  genuflect

Autumn is the best time for turnip servicing. They do their best work in the Winter.
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« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2018, 03:50:03 PM »

PS...I'd swap the Tirfor fera 3 phase lodestar hoist.  Cool
Ora Warn truck winch.
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« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2018, 05:46:02 PM »

PS...I'd swap the Tirfor fera 3 phase lodestar hoist.  Cool
Ora Warn truck winch.

I wouldnae, got a 9500XP Warn on me Landie an it's lifted many a turnip but the TU32 is my 'weapon of choice' for a big lift and the TU16 for the smaller stuff. The Warn is a great tool but not for lifting wind turbines. Adequate, capable but scary at times and you often spend as much extricating the Land Rover from a bog as lifting the turbine  hysteria

Dunno about a Lodestar right enough but I've yet to work on a turnip anywhere near a 3 phase supply.
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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2018, 07:14:53 PM »

Dunno about a Lodestar right enough but I've yet to work on a turnip anywhere near a 3 phase supply.

I can fit one to yer landy if ya want Paul.  fingers crossed!
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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2018, 07:30:43 PM »

Dunno about a Lodestar right enough but I've yet to work on a turnip anywhere near a 3 phase supply.

I can fit one to yer landy if ya want Paul.  fingers crossed!

 Cool Well that would put me 300W Victron to shame  genuflect
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« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2018, 07:48:22 PM »

As regards the warn winch fera turnip....you just want better ballast than a landy, or anchor your landy.
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« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2018, 08:07:31 PM »

As regards the warn winch fera turnip....you just want better ballast than a landy, or anchor your landy.

It's no just that Scruff, they don't brake very smoothly and set up a kinda bouncing, especially on the taller springier type of mast.



Sure it looks impressive but you have far more control with a Tirfor

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« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2018, 08:13:31 PM »

I have to bow to yer experience Paul. I'm just not a fan of manual labour when I can electrify things.

Double or triple purchase = more control, more torque, smaller winch etc... bike

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« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2018, 08:23:17 PM »



Winch line dampers for the win Paul.
They might save your windscreen or something more valuable.

Use in pairs.
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« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2018, 08:23:43 PM »

I have to bow to yer experience Paul. I'm just not a fan of manual labour when I can electrify things.

Double or triple purchase = more control, more torque, smaller winch etc... bike



I'm the same Scruff, that's why I've got cordless everything and an electric winch (even got a 40lt/min hydraulic pump on me digger) but I just find the Tirfor the best tool for most turnip jobs. Sure, if it was a 2.5kW on a 6.5m mast that I could drive to, I'd use the Warn but the 11.5m mast can be interesting and the 15m mast downright scary. Not only that, two of the masts I've helped install were dropped in by helicopter  Grin

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« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2018, 08:32:23 PM »

Winch dampers for the win Paul.
They might save your windscreen or something more valuable.


I actually winch with the bonnet up Scruff (it's just down for the picture  Roll Eyes ) The solenoid pack is actually mounted in the engine compartment and not as is normal on the winch. I mount them in there to keep em dry.


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« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2018, 08:34:59 PM »

15m mast?  faint

Has anyone every tried telescopic ones? Helicopters? Motorise the turnip to generate lift as a Vertical-Axis--Heliturnip!..auto locking with active head control for HAWT operation...



Tirfors sure are reliable and simples... whistlie
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« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2018, 10:02:23 PM »

A telescopic mast would not be a great idea. Scruff,
                                             You would never get a minute,s sleep if it was within 100 yds of yer hoos.
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« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2018, 10:06:00 PM »

Because of the noise of the rigging or because it's so cool it'd be hard not fiddle with it?

All hydraulics creep unless they are sooper dooper fancy-pants multi-valved and even Manitou don't do that.

A rigid mast will always be stronger.
Less is more..usuallly.
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« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2018, 10:40:58 PM »

It would rattle and rattle,  rattle and rattle,
                                I did, once upon a time have a 600watt turbine up on a cherry picker. I thought it would have been a brilliant solution. I am glad that I did it because I would never be satisfied until I gave it a try. The first force 8 that came along sent the whole caboodle dancing and ducking and i thought that the slewing gear was going to be wrecked. However, I did send it up with 4 guys and it was fine. Perhaps a hydraulic tower that pushed up tight to 4 guys like what i ended up doing on the cherry picker would work but again,the pins on the rams will rattle and click.
   The turbine brakes when it hits the dump load voltage and the braking send all towers into a sideways kind of twist that can over time,find an answer in the way that the tower is constructed and set up a resonance , that is when the real fun starts. Guys are good. They absorb the vibrations and they transfer the remaining vibrations and sudden sideway forces directly down to the ground anchors. It is only when you start into these thing that you begin to realise just how relentless the wind can be. If there is a rattle or a weakness there, the wind will find it.
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