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« on: June 10, 2014, 12:49:44 PM »

We moved into the Cabin at Easterdown on 4th May, having got an 8.0 Sunny Island installed with 1848 Ah of new forklift batteries. And a Hyundai Diesel Generator to charge them. Various planning issues and scheduling have meant that the Solar is stalled for a few weeks, but hopefully moving forward soon.

The Hyundai story is not very good so far. It has failed after just barely keeping the batteries charged, and is strapped to a pallet awaiting back to base repairs as I type. A rented generator sits in our generator hut. Whether the Hyundai story ending will be good or not remains to unfold, but in the meantime I have heard of a Lister not too far away from here.

A trusted mechanic went to see it yesterday and said it has no automatic start or stop, but it starts well with the crank handle and ran a few power tools. It is quite cheap and I rang a generator refurbish place this morning who said that it probably doesn't need rewinding, only a general overhaul and a starter motor, and the worst case price for them to do this doesn't seem insane.

I've seen this:

http://www.deepseaplc.com/products/dse-genset/manual-start-controllers/dse3110/

And wondered if it could be used to autostart this lister. The lister spec from the advert is:
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2 Cylinder Lister Diesel Engine - 10hp - 1500 RPM

6kva Single Phase BRUSH Generator

Dry Stored

Working order
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So, is this a good idea?
All advice gratefully received,

V.

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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2014, 03:37:06 PM »

Paul da Listerman, Grin
                  Should be along shortly and he will know.
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2014, 09:44:33 PM »

Hi V,

much, much work needed to get that to start as it is very, very unlikely to have a ring gear on the flywheel

http://lifeattheendoftheroad.wordpress.com/2011/09/29/a-serious-piece-of-scotland/

bottom of page. Even if it does have one, the correct starter is an 'arm and a leg' as they turn the opposite way to most

http://lifeattheendoftheroad.wordpress.com/2012/06/09/a-starter-for-cyril/

Then when you've cooked your ring gear on the stove, parted with 200 for the starter you need to make it stop

http://lifeattheendoftheroad.wordpress.com/2012/06/10/cyril-starts-cyril-stops/

that'll be another 50 or 60 for the solenoid. Once you've done that though, your DSE module will work just fine  Wink

Far far easier to buy one already fitted with SoM or mains failure start.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LISTER-3-CYLINDER-DIESEL-ENGINE-GENERATOR-12-5-KVA-415-240-VOLT-HARDLEY-USED-VGC-/121358334310?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Tools_Generators_ET&hash=item1c41853966

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/used-Lister-Generator-/151303623022?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Tools_Generators_ET&hash=item233a66116e

Cheers, Paul
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2014, 09:37:30 PM »

Thanks so much, Paul. Your excellent advice will keep me from going too far out of my depth.

While things have not been straightforward, I do have to say that the satisfaction of building and living off grid is a satisfaction that has no equal.

I'll update you on my progress and plans when I have a minute. (when?)
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2014, 09:17:55 AM »

I'm not surprised to hear "The Hyundai story is not very good so far" best to get rid of it asap and cut your losses. I had one for a short while but managed to get some money back. If I could do it all again after 10 years off-grid, I would have gone Lister from the start and solar panels not turbine. I think almost anyone can love a Lister but turbines are for enthusiasts.
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