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« on: March 24, 2017, 10:34:06 AM »

My tractor takes 2 batteries, i'm just renewing my cables as they were a rush job and now corroding inside.

Because at least 2 of the 4 terminals will need two cables connecting to them. Whats the best thing to buy to allow this?
My cables will have ring terminals on them
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2017, 10:44:30 AM »

Hi
What posts are on your batteries?

If this type fit.

http://www.durite.co.uk/s/c/wiring-accessories/battery-terminals-leads-and-clips/battery-terminals-and-accessories/metric-battery-terminals-and-accessories/solderless-metric-battery-terminals-with-10mm-stud

I use the 10mm as opposed to the 8mm ones, stud versions. they do them with various stud lengths as well. Can take the ring terminals on your cable
Most battery places will have similar

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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2017, 10:52:38 AM »

lovely jubly, my google-fu was weak this morning.

i will get two of the cable ends with clamps on them (to save junction points) and then the rest with rings for the terminals you linked to and the chassis earth point and starter motor
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2017, 03:41:38 PM »

after crazy quotes on making the cables up i bought everything including a 16T hydraulic crimper for less money.
Job done

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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2017, 07:07:31 PM »

Nice job!
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2017, 08:01:24 PM »

Nice job!
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+ 1, lovely and neat, I just can't understand why people feck about with hammers, punches and vices when you can buy the correct tool for not a lot of money  genuflect
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2017, 08:52:57 PM »

Nice job!
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+ 1, lovely and neat, I just can't understand why people feck about with hammers, punches and vices when you can buy the correct tool for not a lot of money  genuflect


but............but........but if you can't do it with a hammer, or possibly a shovel, it ain't worth doing fight

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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2017, 09:20:02 PM »

Nice job!
Zetor?

+ 1, lovely and neat, I just can't understand why people feck about with hammers, punches and vices when you can buy the correct tool for not a lot of money  genuflect


but............but........but if you can't do it with a hammer, or possibly a shovel, it ain't worth doing fight

Desp

Well, I didnae say you couldnae do it, I've had many a fry up on a shovel wi' lard over a tar burner but is is better done in a pan wiv olive oil  hysteria  hysteria
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2017, 11:48:55 PM »

+ 1, lovely and neat, I just can't understand why people feck about with hammers, punches and vices when you can buy the correct tool for not a lot of money  genuflect

I got so fed up with that craic, and soldering I went & bought the proper tool. There's just no comparing it to a hammer job.

I pretty much stole it. 50 beer tokens with a complete set of dies on Ebay. This is the RRP before the dies.





Other than destructively testing lugs (crimp beats everything) I've yet to use it on a job.   whistlie



Pyramid stack your lugs GB. Big on bottom, small on top and don't forget the spring washers for mobile applications. Nice job.


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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2017, 07:57:43 AM »

And whilst we're on the subject of 'proper tools' what do others do to neatly cut SWA steel armour? I used to spend ages neatly 'half cutting' the steel wires with a hacksaw then bending them. That's the way one of the local 'Scottish Power' engineers showed me when he cut an 'off cut'  whistlie off a drum for me. Latterly I've been using a plumbers pipe cutter to do the same thing just much quicker and neater. Any other peeps any ideas, and is there a tool for just stripping back regular outer insulation on other cables neatly without accidentally cutting the conductor insulation?
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2017, 09:30:04 AM »

Use a plumbers pipe cutter myself on SWA, not much scope for improvement on that for occasional use I think, very controlled and accurate.
Just to add, soldering is a total no-no into crimp terminals, the cable will work harden and break at the joint if there is any movement at all.
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2017, 09:51:52 AM »

I bought one of these. It is made of chocolate wrapped in tinfoil and would only last 3 days if used professionally, but for home/hobby use it does the job.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tube-Terminals-Lugs-Battery-Cable-Wire-Crimping-Force-Hydraulic-Crimper-Tool-Kit-/332046441820?hash=item4d4f829d5c:g:baIAAOSwf-VWbn8Z

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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2017, 10:37:16 AM »

I bought one of these. It is made of chocolate wrapped in tinfoil and would only last 3 days if used professionally, but for home/hobby use it does the job.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tube-Terminals-Lugs-Battery-Cable-Wire-Crimping-Force-Hydraulic-Crimper-Tool-Kit-/332046441820?hash=item4d4f829d5c:g:baIAAOSwf-VWbn8Z



I used to borrow something like from work http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Beta-Large-Crimping-Pliers-Tool-Heavy-Duty-Terminals-for-Cable-10-120mm-1609B-/381386313937?hash=item58cc6550d1:g:3mwAAOSwDNdV6Gcw Then got the 18.99 Chinese version, they didn't do Chinese hydraulic ones then or I'd have got one of those instead, like you say, perfect for occaisional use.

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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2017, 10:41:35 AM »


Just to add, soldering is a total no-no into crimp terminals, the cable will work harden and break at the joint if there is any movement at all.

I'm with you on this Fionn but it does seem to be a subject (like batteries) that gets people very 'hot under the collar'.
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2017, 11:31:05 AM »

Nice job!
Zetor?

Yes 6718, just had partial engine rebuild after November's early frost blew the corroded frost plugs.
Back together and running but fed up of dodgy connections (hammered the last lugs/cable) and what-not, so decided to do it proper
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