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« Reply #180 on: February 25, 2019, 10:27:55 AM »

I'd be very surprised if the manufacture said they were OK mounted like that, too much flex in them. The rails look like Schuco ? and they should have clips at <600mm spacing. Your rails are joined together aren't they, otherwise the expansion and contraction could result in panels coming loose.
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« Reply #181 on: February 25, 2019, 04:30:00 PM »

Good Afternoon All,

Well that's all the panels back in place.

I still have an issue with the one Trina panel (now sent a faulty panel message to the sellers) and also an issue having re-connected the the 2off BP380 with the other 16 and I'm now getting an offset error on the inverter which I wasn't......... I'll disconnect these 2 panels for now.

Next up will be fitting the CT to the CU as it arrived at lunchtime.

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« Reply #182 on: February 25, 2019, 06:43:44 PM »

Good Evening All,

Just stopped to get some dinner having installed the CT and wired up the SHM 2.0 as per attached pictures. Got to find one of the two screws securing the face plate to the CU amongst a pile of cr*p in the bottom of the trailer tomorrow though..........

After dinner I might jury rig the Cat 5e cable via a downstairs window to the router and see if I can get it to work with Sunny Manager.

I will fit the dust cover but I clearly need to drill a suitable hole in it to pass the Cat 5e cable through.

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« Reply #183 on: February 25, 2019, 09:21:41 PM »

Good Evening All (again),

Well that's both CAT5e cables run in to the house via a downstairs window and connected to the BT router.

The SHM 2.0 has now changed from showing a flashing red Status LED to a fixed Red LED with a flashing Amber COM LED (my documentation doesn't mention Amber!!).

I have powered the inverter down and back up again and the SWDM-10 now has an IP address and a Subnet Mask defined.

I have had one try to get things recognised through Sunny Portal without any joy.

Time for a mug of Horlicks me thinks???

Regards

Richard
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« Reply #184 on: February 26, 2019, 06:54:05 AM »

Looks really good, impressive set up and extreme solar intent! You should get meaningful volumes even in Dec/Jan? The panel with low resistance. How long has it been off a roof for and how stored? Might just need to be run up for a week to dry out? You could if need be seal it up in a duct taped plastic sheet with a load of salt. Will draw he moisture if any present.
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« Reply #185 on: February 26, 2019, 08:29:02 AM »

How come you didn’t put a panel on the tracker? Or is that where the faulty one will go?

Re the horizontal mounting. I downloaded the installation sheet for my ja solar ones I did last week.  The mounting points for those panels in landscape are up to a 1/4 of the with in from each edge (low/normal levels of use)

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« Reply #186 on: February 26, 2019, 09:18:07 AM »

Good Morning All,

Bit of a late start this morning as I was up past midnight doing battle with SHM 2.0 and SWDM-10 units.

Firstly I re-booted the SHM 2.0 which solved the 'problem' there and using the Sunny Home Manager Assistant (can't get it to download and install on this Macbook) I then discovered I need the Serial No., PIC and RID. Guess what they are on a sticker on the side of the SHM 2.0 and near impossible to read when installed. The Quick Installation Guide does mention needing these details but it isn't highlighted!!! The latest instructions show this sticker to be a separate item so I suspect mine is an older unit, SMA also provide three stickers with the SWDM-10, one to be stuck on the outside of the inverter............

Anyway armed with a head torch, my usual spectacles, a magnifying glass and a large screwdriver to lever the unit across I was able to read the necessary details, fortunately I had re-routed the earth cable from between the Main RCD and the SHM 2.0.

Sunny Portal is now up and running after a fashion so I can see that right now the PV expansion is producing a mighty 105W without having to get up off my bottom and go look at the inverter.

I have some reading to do now to work out how everything can be made to work the way I want it to.

Interestingly the green LED's on the SHM 2.0 look kind of 'yellowy' when viewed off axis.

I need to investigate this 'duff' panel as the sellers (must stop mentioning other sellers on this forum) have sent me an EM this morning, the offset problem I was getting having re-connected the two BP380 panels and look towards digging a trench across the 'drive'.

andrewellis - the bottom left hand corner of the tracker is kept clear of panels so as not to cause an obstruction to the track. Now I've moved all the 80W panels across to the left there is sufficient room on the right to fit the 'duff' panel. What I'm missing is the Schüco brackets to do it.

Late extra - at 0936 that's the Solar ET bursting into life............, the 'offset' problem has clearly gone away of its own accord and the new panels are producing over 600W of power according to the Growatt but it is charging the battery and only allowing the 100W to the inverter....

Should be a good RE day. Smiley Smiley Smiley

Regards

Richard
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« Reply #187 on: February 26, 2019, 09:43:10 AM »

I've got quite a few Schletter clamps spare which I don't have a use for.  I'm not sure if they are interchangeable or not.  I don't think I'm far down the road.
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« Reply #188 on: February 26, 2019, 10:41:01 AM »

andrewellis,

I did take a picture of the required clamps yesterday but clearly forgot to post it  Grin

Required clamps as per attached. Panel depth is 45mm.

Pro tem if I can get the panel 'working' I'd remove two each from the BP380 panels giving me four.

Addition - I see CCL sell them.

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« Reply #189 on: February 26, 2019, 10:53:57 AM »

Looks really good, impressive set up and extreme solar intent! You should get meaningful volumes even in Dec/Jan? The panel with low resistance. How long has it been off a roof for and how stored? Might just need to be run up for a week to dry out? You could if need be seal it up in a duct taped plastic sheet with a load of salt. Will draw he moisture if any present.
pantsmachine,

I could do these things but the panels are sold as functioning............there is no caveat emptor issue here.

I'm about to go and try this panel at both the front and rear of the string as per the sellers request then take a number of pictures as well. I'll probably try nowty's suggestion as well.

Regards

Richard
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« Reply #190 on: February 26, 2019, 11:14:12 AM »

I'm uploading some images. Let me know if they are of any use.







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« Reply #191 on: February 26, 2019, 03:07:27 PM »

andrewellis,

It's very kind of you to offer but I don't think the clips are compatible, they are only £1 + VAT from CCL at the end of the day.

The 'gap' between the RCD and the fascia plate was upsetting my Feng shui so I cut down a fill in panel to tidy it up.

Now we have some decent'ish sun I'v measured the duff panel at 33.6V/ 3.3A against a good one at 34.0V/ 4.2A and a close inspection of the bottom edge shows suspect areas. There is an ongoing dialogue with the sellers currently.

Still trying to understand how to get the SHM 2.0 3rd green LED to light up. The instructions on how to set these things up don't appear terribly clear to me at this time. I know a part of it involves disabling the Bluetooth function on the inverter.

Tried accessing the inverter by Bluetooth to alter the Grid Monitoring settings but I suspect the fact it now has the comm module attached things aren't that simple anymore. I do hate this learning process.

On a positive note I did find the screw I dropped in the trailer last night.  Smiley

Regards

Richard


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« Reply #192 on: February 26, 2019, 10:06:33 PM »

You really should bring tails through the same hole in a metal enclosure
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« Reply #193 on: February 27, 2019, 06:57:33 AM »

TT,

I won't dispute you on this as all I have done is copy what the 'qualified' electrician who fitted this in the first place had done..............

OK so now I need to re-visit this.

I want to re-locate the CT anyway.

Regards

Richard
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« Reply #194 on: February 27, 2019, 07:04:10 AM »

Hi

You really should bring tails through the same hole in a metal enclosure

Probably ideal and best accepted practice, however the wires are dropping down straight and not exerting any pressure on the side of the hole.
I would be happy with that however, just make sure there are glands or grommets in the holes to protect the cable against the metal.
Easier than trying to put tight bends in the wire and could then cause the cable to be forced against the side of the hole.
Mechanically and electrically looks fine to me, just protect the wire insulation against the side of the holes.
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