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Author Topic: The Norwegian bottle-deposit scheme.  (Read 260 times)
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« on: July 12, 2018, 12:41:30 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/12/can-norway-help-us-solve-the-plastic-crisis-one-bottle-at-a-time
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2018, 08:10:37 PM »

Good if they introduced it here
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2018, 08:29:37 PM »

The problem with the proposed bottle collection deposit scheme is that we already have a 100% workable scheme in the way of household council kerbside collections. The deposit return scheme renders that useless for those of us wanting to get their deposit back. The issue is people disposing of bottles irresponsibly, which is largely caused by a handful of numskulls that don't know what a bin is (educate people to make littering socially unacceptable) and not enough usable waste bins in high need areas.


We already have three waste bins at home (two recycling - general and food waste, one non recycling), plus compost plus wildlife. Far less than 10% of our waste is probably not destined to be recycling and a large majority of the remainder could be recycled if the economics of recycling was slightly shifted to force the councils collectors hands. Yet now we are going to need to a store for plastic bottles - water bottles that have not been reused half dozen times, milk?, juice?.

Imho its a backward step. We should be reducing and/or recycling all waste with equal vigour, not just concentrating on a few high profile bad boys.  surrender  
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2018, 10:02:37 PM »

Tesco used to have automated machines at a few stores that gave club card points.  I used to use one at the Newbury store but they got rid of them quite a few years ago. It was quite a laborious task as you put them in one at a time and it scanned cans as you only got points for aluminium ones. I used to save bags full of cans as I only went once every few months.
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2018, 11:01:59 PM »

They have a similar system in Sweden and Denmark and it works really well. In Denmark we even noticed the tourists putting there waste into the public dustbins only to find the locals taking the bottles out to refund in the shops. You would never find any bottles just discarded.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2018, 06:00:51 AM »

I used an excellent in place system in Germany in 2009 to return a few crates of 500ml glass beer bottles at the end of a holiday. Basically a vending machine in reverse and a great idea. If only there was a standard bottle in the UK as there in Germany across the beer companies.

In a nutshell from the article- 'Maldum says the underlying principle is clear, if drinks firms and retailers can get bottles to the shops and sell them, they are more than capable of collecting them back again and recycling them.' Simply said and very true.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2018, 06:19:56 AM »

We lived a couple of years in Sweden. The bottle scheme worked really well. There was also the option to donate the returned deposit to local clubs or charity.

The locals take recycling very seriously. We had two Household bins  further divided into four portions the actual 'rubbish' to be taken away was extremely small. This does of course rely on collective civic responsibility something that is drummed into  everyone from childhood.

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