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Author Topic: ABB PVI 3.6 Transformerless OUTD uno  (Read 1408 times)
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« on: September 23, 2018, 06:54:34 PM »

I've read as much as I can,  searched where I can?
Although I'm cobbling together my own system on a budget I still want, new, decent quality components.
I've read enough stating that ABB make good inverters. I don't understand the pro/con of transformer/less. I know it's last season's model,  but does that matter at 300 good old english pounds?
Anyway,  came across one of these new,  seems a decent price.
Anyone's thoughts opinions, ideas etc. .. fire away,  I'm all ears.

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2018, 12:38:31 PM »

I have a wind version of this inverter and it's been pretty good, easy to alter the settings and tinker around with. Nice clear display telling you all you could possibly want to know and pretty good support. As far as transformer or less, then I don't think it makes great deal of difference for a solar inverter other than they're cheaper to ship. Were it an 'off grid' inverter I'd be wanting a nice big heavy transformer for those big induction loads.

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2018, 01:05:18 PM »

Just make sure it's a 50Hz version!
I have a wind version that I picked up, has a -UK sticker but it's a 60Hz only paper weight..
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2018, 01:07:31 PM »

Could you elaborate on that please?  Interesting. .
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2018, 01:11:28 PM »

They are sold in 50Hz and 60Hz, they can't be changed from one to the other in software like many inverters.
I believe the one I bought originated in Canada which explains why it is 60Hz, but not why it has a UK label on it Sad
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2018, 01:14:32 PM »

It shows thus on the date plate.
Just checked the pictures.
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2018, 03:13:01 PM »

Just make sure it's a 50Hz version!
I have a wind version that I picked up, has a -UK sticker but it's a 60Hz only paper weight..

You sure about that Fionn, even with the unique code? as opposed to the generic one https://www.eborx.com/download/en/powerone/trio/inv_str-hf-trio-uno_resetgridcode_en_rev.2011-12-19.pdf

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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2018, 05:29:59 PM »

Hi Paul,
I was told as much by the local distributor, he said he had a stack of them with the same issue. I'd love to be proven wrong though, I'll check out the link.

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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2018, 05:48:52 PM »

Hi Paul,
I was told as much by the local distributor, he said he had a stack of them with the same issue. I'd love to be proven wrong though, I'll check out the link.

Cheers,
Fionn.

Worth speaking to Rob Beckers at http://www.solacity.com/ or on the Green Power Talk forum https://www.greenpowertalk.org/. He's helped me out no end when I've been tinkering with mine.

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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2018, 07:34:09 PM »

I suspect a 60Hz designed transformer will saturate at 50Hz and in the very least get hot(ter). And as an inverter is a fairly specialist bit of electronics and not simply a mains PSU front end, this may be why the model is spec'd at 60Hz (or 50Hz) only.
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2018, 07:38:41 PM »

I suspect a 60Hz designed transformer will saturate at 50Hz and in the very least get hot(ter). And as an inverter is a fairly specialist bit of electronics and not simply a mains PSU front end, this may be why the model is spec'd at 60Hz (or 50Hz) only.
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That's the thing Antman, it's a transformerless inverter, which is what makes me think it's adjustable via the software, not that I know anything about these things in the slightest  wackoold
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2018, 09:24:34 PM »

You need to call ABB on 08000232341 they will give you a special code so that you can change the country code. When you change the country code the frequency will change at the same time. They might ask if you are an installer just say yes and mumble something about abc solar or similar.
The inverters are all the same only the country code determines the frequency.
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2018, 09:41:47 PM »

You need to call ABB on 08000232341 they will give you a special code so that you can change the country code. When you change the country code the frequency will change at the same time. They might ask if you are an installer just say yes and mumble something about abc solar or similar.
The inverters are all the same only the country code determines the frequency.

 genuflect  genuflect Methinks this what I did Roger, got me 'unique code' from  whistlie then altered me grid settings ( me not being on grid so to speak )
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