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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2019, 03:15:00 PM »

Seems like the NemoLink testing phase for final commissioning is complete - officially will "go-live" on 31st January, with capacity available to purchase from 30th Jan.

http://www.nemo-link.com/?page_id=6
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« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2019, 01:52:02 PM »

This on the list?

https://renews.biz/51570/greenlink-nets-eu-36m-boost/
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« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2019, 02:59:55 PM »

Interesting - back when I did the original "survey", Greenlink was on the list but it had been refused development funding by OfGem, so I stopped looking for information about it.
Looks like it's planned for commissioning by 2023, so a fair while away yet.  I wonder if the collapse of the planned new nuke in Wales might have impact on it, or indeed the failure of Swansea bay lagoon?
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« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2019, 03:00:24 PM »

https://www.greenlink.ie/about
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« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2019, 03:20:28 PM »

Seems like the GMB Union is railing against building HVDCs instead of domestic generation
https://utilityweek.co.uk/gmb-urges-government-rethink-reliance-interconnectors/
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« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2019, 03:35:29 PM »

Seems like the GMB Union is railing against building HVDCs instead of domestic generation

Yeah, there's a small group of nuclear pollyannas, and nuclear employees, in the GMB that lead the union's energy policy by the nose, and oppose everything that reduces any case for nukes or fracking. And that's pretty much everything. Indeed, the nuclear industry itself has done more damage to the future of civilian nuclear power than anyone else has. So maybe they should just go oppose themselves.  hysteria

In a way, I guess it's their job to put their members' interests above everything else. But what happens is that they've ended up putting the interests of a minority of their members above the interests both of the country, and above the interests of many of their members.

There are some hard-working, genuine, sincere, modern folk in the trade union movement. But there are still some dinosaurs there too.
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« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2019, 11:49:47 PM »

Well done the GMB, Dan B and AZPS, You appear to have no empathy for soon to be made redundant UK workers in the powerplants and powerplant equipment companies too, or care about the trade deficit this contributes too.

I appreciate that we are moving away from traditional forms of electricity generation. However, HVDC appears to be being used to distort the market and force UK plants to close. ( Cottam P. S . summer 2019) Announcement ties in with Nemolink opening.

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« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2019, 08:23:11 AM »

The Interconnectors have come about because it is the logical engineering and financial thing to do and has been promoted/mandated by the EU.

We are at virtually full employment and needing loads of immergrants to keep the country running.
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« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2019, 08:52:26 AM »

Where have I ever said I had no empathy/sympathy for UK workers?
It's absolutely right that technology is disrupting the traditional "burn stuff" to generate power model - be that coal, gas or nuclear fuel.   That power has to come from somewhere, and it's absolutely right that the UK uses all the technologies at its disposal, be that wind, solar, hydro, tidal and interconnectors.
What should happen - and we have clear lessons in this from the recent past when this hasn't happened - is that where incumbent industries are changing, the investment in the new technologies must also include re-skilling, training, opportunities, - jobs- for those whose livelihoods are impacted by the closure of the old systems.

What the GMB is failing to do is recognise that there is a complete transformation happening in the UK power sector (and rightly so) and rather than lobby for help and influence in that transition for their members, they're instead doing the opposite, which is dig in, become intransigent and end up fossilising in a vain attempt to "protect" what is left.




Well done the GMB, Dan B and AZPS, You appear to have no empathy for soon to be made redundant UK workers in the powerplants and powerplant equipment companies too, or care about the trade deficit this contributes too.

I appreciate that we are moving away from traditional forms of electricity generation. However, HVDC appears to be being used to distort the market and force UK plants to close. ( Cottam P. S . summer 2019) Announcement ties in with Nemolink opening.

Philip R


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« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2019, 09:58:53 AM »

Are these interconnectors not bi-directional?  About time the whingers got off their backsides and devised ways of producing and exporting ‘green’ production electricity.  Now that would be an innovation!

I wholeheartedly agree that we should not rely on outside electricity supplies - let’s get these potentially unemployed people redeployed....
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« Reply #40 on: March 25, 2019, 11:13:31 AM »

We do not  "rely on outside electricity supplies".  We do import because it is economically advantageous for us to import overproduction from countries who have overinvested in assets. The marginal cost of French nuclear production is almost zero and they need to get rid of it.  Using them as a kind of base load allows us to use more intermittent RE and cuts our CO2 emissions at the same time.
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« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2019, 02:39:32 PM »

Yes all of the HVDC interconnectors deployed for the UK grid are bi-directional. There are times when we export through all of them but it's all dependent upon the price - which is dependent upon local demand and local generation conditions - how much wind/solar/gas/nuclear/coal in any one country at any one time.

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