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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2019, 08:12:51 PM »

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Anyone sorted it on a Mac running Safari or an iPad?
Just tried  and apparently won't allow mixed content to be viewed.
Not having any issues on other forums

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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2019, 09:19:05 PM »

The problem is that the different parts of the forum website seem to be spread across both http and https based links at the moment. The result is any good browser will start to throw up insecure errors and a broken padlock.

It would seem that the header of each page now has http links to the stylesheet and I would guess that these were until recently https links as the last copy held at web.archive.org has https links.
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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2019, 09:26:42 PM »

I use brave touching on shield on right hand side and clicking on load insecure scripts provided a fix.
Big X not secure on left then appears.

I have to do it every time i look.
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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2019, 07:10:40 AM »

Hi
Anyone sorted it on a Mac running Safari or an iPad?
Just tried  and apparently won't allow mixed content to be viewed.
Not having any issues on other forums

iain

Good Morning Guys,

Same as Iain, has anybody determined a fix for a MacBook please?

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Richard
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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2019, 08:54:06 AM »

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Seems strange that all the browsers were affected at the same time if the website has not changed.. Surely tall the browsers can't have all updated at the same time?

Iain

As I understand it Firefox uses google chrome for the back end stuff (technical term - not protology) . So when google change something it means Firefox also changes.
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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2019, 09:08:34 AM »

For different browsers to all be affected it suggests that either a change was made to the website, or something such as a certificate has expired (anyone heard of certificates expiring causing problems elsewhere recently?  hysteria).
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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2019, 09:33:42 AM »

The certificate expires 20th January 2020, so it's not that.
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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2019, 09:55:48 AM »

Google has dropped Google+ on the first of April.
One or two of my accounts needed 're-establishing'. Is there any possible connection?
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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2019, 10:00:15 AM »

Hi
Anyone sorted it on a Mac running Safari or an iPad?
Just tried  and apparently won't allow mixed content to be viewed.
Not having any issues on other forums

iain

Good Morning Guys,

Same as Iain, has anybody determined a fix for a MacBook please?

Regards

Richard

I spent some time on my other halves ipad last night and came to the conclusion that Safari blocks all such content and there is no way to change it. This seems to be borne out by a search of the Apple forums. Apparently it was blocked several years ago when V9xxxx was released.

Can you install Google Chrome and use that?  If so you can do the same as on the PC and click on the "shield". Not guaranteed as this does not appear on my android tablet running chrome.

I have had this, or similar, issues on other forums.  I think there could have been an update of something recently as a classic car forum I use went "down" at the same time as the CSS style sheet issue happened on here. In that case we couldn't access the site at all - may or may not be related. It is all getting too complicated for me - bring back 300 baud acoustic modems and the old style text only bulletin boards Grin

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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2019, 11:23:35 AM »

Roger,

Accessing via Google Chrome and then accepting 'Unsafe Scripts' does work but that isn't a fix as such simply a work around.

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« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2019, 12:19:39 PM »

but that isn't a fix as such simply a work around.

But "Admin are looking into it", so hopefully permanent fix is on the way.

https://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php/topic,30484.msg344367.html#msg344367
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« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2019, 03:51:35 PM »

By way of reassurance to Macfolk, it’s nothing we’ve done... even if you’ve just succombed to the latest round of OS updates ( always a wotrrying time with Macs).
I’m running a phone, pad and laptop, all different OS all different Sarari versions, plus ‘emergency only’ Firefox and it’s all the same.

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« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2019, 07:50:00 PM »

Just to repeat myself

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The problem is that the different parts of the forum website seem to be spread across both http and https based links at the moment. The result is any good browser will start to throw up insecure errors and a broken padlock.

It would seem that the header of each page now has http links to the stylesheet and I would guess that these were until recently https links as the last copy held at web.archive.org has https links.
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The fix is to reverse the change to the header file that has taken place. Someone has modified the header to place the site stylesheet on http links, not https links.
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« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2019, 08:48:26 PM »

Thanks RIT, we do have that.

The only issue is that, at present, no such change can be traced to any actions. So reversing it needs a little more investigation.
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« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2019, 11:00:49 PM »

Thanks RIT, we do have that.

The only issue is that, at present, no such change can be traced to any actions. So reversing it needs a little more investigation.

I can't comment on what changes took place, or when or how, but your common header block is as follows

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/Themes/default/style.css?fin11" />
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/Themes/default/print.css?fin11" media="print" />
<link type="image/x-icon" href="http://www.navitron.org.uk/media/favicon/default/favicon.ico" rel="icon">    
<link rel="help" href="https://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php?action=help" target="_blank" />
<link rel="search" href="https://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php?action=search" />
<link rel="contents" href="https://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Navitron Renewable Energy and Sustainability Forum - RSS" href="https://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php?type=rss;action=.xml" />
<link rel="prev" href="https://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php/topic,30484.0.html" />
<link rel="index" href="https://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php/board,15.0.html" /><meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=EmulateIE7" />


With the first 3 lines having http and all the rest having https. Regardless of what else you find this will cause the insecure web page issues and the broken padlocks. It is most likely this that many browsers can 'fix' when the cert error is disregarded/overridden.


Update - I've switched over to firefox and have used the built-in Inspection tool (right side menu - Web Developer option) (which may have to be enabled if you try). Once running you can select the Console view on say the main forum page and you get a vast number of "Loading mixed (insecure) display" errors from all the gif and jpg images and much of the javascript. So all the basic components are http based while everything else is https based.

Have any changes been made to the web server configuration or any third party gateway solution such as cloudflare by yourselves or the hosting company? Looking at the current html I can only guess that another tool was rewriting the content on the fly and that this stopped working a few days ago.
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