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« on: April 04, 2020, 04:57:43 PM »

Just seen that tomorrow from 10:30 to 16:00hrs electricity is negative priced.  genuflect
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2020, 05:15:00 PM »




Yep look at this.
Going to be difficult to import as well as will be generating stuff myself from my own solar but Iíll see what I can do.
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2020, 06:18:04 PM »

Same up here, wow!
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2020, 06:59:52 PM »

Think I'll have to go for a drive in the EV to use up some electrons to make room!
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2020, 10:34:45 PM »




Yep look at this.
Going to be difficult to import as well as will be generating stuff myself from my own solar but Iíll see what I can do.
Its morally wrong but throw the pv DC isolator switch ?? crazy world we live in..........
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2020, 10:39:13 PM »

just realised you need to keep generating to claim generated payment ......
How about turn on a hot tub ? swimming pool heater ??
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2020, 11:50:41 PM »

On the subject or morally wrong, I saw the suggestion of plugging in a row of heaters in the garden.
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2020, 07:27:49 AM »

In the past, plunge pricing has usually been caused by overnight storms producing excess wind-generated power when demand is low in the middle of the night. This one is clearly due to excess solar. Can we expect to see more solar-related plunges?

I read that some electricity suppliers are increasing direct debit amounts to cover anticipated extra consumption form people being home more...
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2020, 08:44:57 AM »

Well, the electricity market clearly isn't working properly looking at  https://gridwatch.co.uk/
It's cheaper to pay consumers to use more electricity than to turn down the gas generators or import less from France/Netherlands?  wackoold
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2020, 09:05:21 AM »

Metered Nat Grid wind over 50% now and there is still solar to come. extrahappy

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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2020, 09:15:34 AM »

Well, the electricity market clearly isn't working properly looking at  https://gridwatch.co.uk/
It's cheaper to pay consumers to use more electricity than to turn down the gas generators or import less from France/Netherlands?  wackoold

The market is probably working well. All suppliers will be looking for demand to keep their production ticking over  French nuclear because they cannot turn it down anymore and German PV must be getting up strong.  UK gas needs to keep the turbines running so they will be there for the evening peak.  Wind can be turned down but with nero zero production cost why and it has a cost.   The big help is increasing demand with negative prices.  We need more TOU tariffs and shifting demand.
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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2020, 10:34:19 AM »

Am generating 1.8kW and pulling 3.3kW from the local network at the moment so am doing my bit for the National Grid!
Got the kids having a long showers as they can cope with so that the ImmerSUN can heat as much as it can and got the Tesla plugged in plus Powervault on force charge. Going to get the oven on and do some baking this afternoon plus a nice roast chicken.  Itís all good fun.
 
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2020, 11:33:14 AM »

So the battle cry today is "stay the F^&K at home and use electricity"

After 10+ years of purchasing energy-efficient appliances, it's not as easy as it seems Sad
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2020, 11:48:29 AM »

Grid is still paranoid about outages, because coal is still running at minimum tick-over.
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2020, 12:11:14 PM »

UK is exporting more to Netherlands and France more than importing from Ireland and Belgium.
French nuclear very low at the moment. They have enterred another phase of statutory outages and are now seeing steam generator problems. So their supplies are tight and will remain so for quite a while.

The talk on this forum about deliberately wasting energy: using stuff like swimming pool heaters, heaters in the garden and extended showers in order to earn a few lousy pieces of silver whilst prices are negative is morally wrong, on this forum as well!
Put a load of washing on instead, not wasteful, but useful.

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